Boxing Thread 4.0

[Duke4life831]

Guess it looks like the ear was just a cut and not actually anything more serious than that. It seemed like the prevailing theory was he busted his eardrum and that caused his equilibrium to be messed up. Nope just a normal cut, and just a flat out beatdown from Fury.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Oh really? Wow we thought for sure the ear drum was busted.

[Duke4life831]

Wilder now saying his legs got tired because of the costume that he wore on his walkout. He said the designers went too wild and made it too heavy. It was because of that, that his legs got tired and that is what made him fight different.

Good thing he is a warrior that doesn't make excuses...

[Marcus]

Wilder now saying his legs got tired because of the costume that he wore on his walkout. He said the designers went too wild and made it too heavy. It was because of that, that his legs got tired and that is what made him fight different.

Good thing he is a warrior that doesn't make excuses...

I mean.....to be fair, we can't just completely rule that out as an issue. there's a lot of body heat in the building, the walk-out music might have hit a little different in the arena than it did in the earbuds when he was wearing a weight vest doing roadwork training for the fight. Might not have been in the right shoes either so there's that also.

[GS Warriors 1]

Great performance by 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez on Saturday night. Looked like the fighter I enjoyed watching when he was mostly fighting out of Japan several years back. 115 still looks like a stacked division, would like to see a rematch between Gonzalez and Estrada but there are other good fights to make as well.

A lot of HW news: Fury-Wilder III looks to be happening in July in Las Vegas. Anthony Joshua-Kubrat Pulev was announced yesterday for June 20th in London at Tottenham. Former undisputed cruiserweight champion turned heavyweight Oleksandr Usyk is nearing a deal to fight longtime English fringe contender Dereck Chisora on May 23.

[GS Warriors 1]

Not formally announced by either party, but reports have surfaced that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will move back down to 168 and face WBO super middleweight titlist Billy Joe Saunders on May 2 in Las Vegas. Alvarez is WBA 168 lb. "regular" champ after knocking out Rocky Fielding in December 2018.

It was between Saunders, who held a middleweight trinket before moving up to 168 and claiming a WBO title, and fellow Brit Callum Smith, who is the WBA "super" and Ring champ. Alvarez beat Smith's older brother, Liam, at 154 lbs. in 2016. A deal almost had to get hammered out this week or else the famed "Cinco De Mayo" weekend would've been in jeopardy.

[aggerrard]

Not formally announced by either party, but reports have surfaced that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will move back down to 168 and face WBO super middleweight titlist Billy Joe Saunders on May 2 in Las Vegas. Alvarez is WBA 168 lb. "regular" champ after knocking out Rocky Fielding in December 2018.

It was between Saunders, who held a middleweight trinket before moving up to 168 and claiming a WBO title, and fellow Brit Callum Smith, who is the WBA "super" and Ring champ. Alvarez beat Smith's older brother, Liam, at 154 lbs. in 2016. A deal almost had to get hammered out this week or else the famed "Cinco De Mayo" weekend would've been in jeopardy.

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents. He is established in the MW division with title defenses vs GGG (controversial both times) and Jacobs. But Fielding might be one of the weakest champ in all divisions, when Canelo decided to face him. Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him. Saunders haven't looked good in his latest fights, so i am not surprised they are picking him over Callum Smith to defend the title. Meanwhile Canelo has relinquished the LHW title and avoids Beterbiev and Bivol.

It wouldn't surprise me if he takes the W vs Saunders and then gets an easy W fight vs someone like Kevin Lerena for a CW title.
I have Canelo as the p4p king atm - but i feel like he is taking the lighter challenges in the heavier divisions this far.

[cowboyronnie]

Not formally announced by either party, but reports have surfaced that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will move back down to 168 and face WBO super middleweight titlist Billy Joe Saunders on May 2 in Las Vegas. Alvarez is WBA 168 lb. "regular" champ after knocking out Rocky Fielding in December 2018.

It was between Saunders, who held a middleweight trinket before moving up to 168 and claiming a WBO title, and fellow Brit Callum Smith, who is the WBA "super" and Ring champ. Alvarez beat Smith's older brother, Liam, at 154 lbs. in 2016. A deal almost had to get hammered out this week or else the famed "Cinco De Mayo" weekend would've been in jeopardy.

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents. He is established in the MW division with title defenses vs GGG (controversial both times) and Jacobs. But Fielding might be one of the weakest champ in all divisions, when Canelo decided to face him. Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him. Saunders haven't looked good in his latest fights, so i am not surprised they are picking him over Callum Smith to defend the title. Meanwhile Canelo has relinquished the LHW title and avoids Beterbiev and Bivol.

It wouldn't surprise me if he takes the W vs Saunders and then gets an easy W fight vs someone like Kevin Lerena for a CW title.
I have Canelo as the p4p king atm - but i feel like he is taking the lighter challenges in the heavier divisions this far.

I agree that Saunders has looked poor in his last two fights. Previously, this was a dream match-up. But the guy also has some really unique, uncanny skills. That denuding of Lemieux was a masterclass.

One further thing against Saunders' favour is that they will surely mandate a tiny ring. He's going to have an even harder time maintaining the length he needs.

[cowboyronnie]

Damn, I can't even find a decent torrent of this Mikey Garcia fight. The dude was a top 3 pound-for-pound in the world before he took that insane gamble against Spence, now he's barely on the radar. And I heard the fight was close even. Fuuuck. What a mistake that Spence fight was.

[GS Warriors 1]

A lot of cards being canceled or postponed, some plan on having no fans. There was a Showtime 'ShoBox" Friday night card in Hinkley, Minnesota that went ahead with no fans, just officials and limited number of people close to fighters on card. Top Rank called off March 14 and 17 cards in NYC. CSAC has suspended events through the end of the month. Still undecided status for Artur Beterbiev's defense of his titles in Quebec City and a Showtime card in Las Vegas, both which are slated to happen March 28.

[Papi_swav]

Damn, I can't even find a decent torrent of this Mikey Garcia fight. The dude was a top 3 pound-for-pound in the world before he took that insane gamble against Spence, now he's barely on the radar. And I heard the fight was close even. Fuuuck. What a mistake that Spence fight was.

His power doesn't translate well at 147. He needs to stay at 140. If he stays at 147, him and Danny Garcia is a good matchup but I think Danny wins it.

[Papi_swav]

Not formally announced by either party, but reports have surfaced that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will move back down to 168 and face WBO super middleweight titlist Billy Joe Saunders on May 2 in Las Vegas. Alvarez is WBA 168 lb. "regular" champ after knocking out Rocky Fielding in December 2018.

It was between Saunders, who held a middleweight trinket before moving up to 168 and claiming a WBO title, and fellow Brit Callum Smith, who is the WBA "super" and Ring champ. Alvarez beat Smith's older brother, Liam, at 154 lbs. in 2016. A deal almost had to get hammered out this week or else the famed "Cinco De Mayo" weekend would've been in jeopardy.

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents. He is established in the MW division with title defenses vs GGG (controversial both times) and Jacobs. But Fielding might be one of the weakest champ in all divisions, when Canelo decided to face him. Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him. Saunders haven't looked good in his latest fights, so i am not surprised they are picking him over Callum Smith to defend the title. Meanwhile Canelo has relinquished the LHW title and avoids Beterbiev and Bivol.

It wouldn't surprise me if he takes the W vs Saunders and then gets an easy W fight vs someone like Kevin Lerena for a CW title.
I have Canelo as the p4p king atm - but i feel like he is taking the lighter challenges in the heavier divisions this far.

Canelo and De La Hoya is taking the blueprint from Mayweather. Fighting guys that's just right out their prime so they can have a good name under them. Or fighting guys that just got beat . I give Canelo much respect for fighting GGG after he was demolishing everybody, even though GGG spanked Canelo the first time. But now he has the contract and money behind him to make fights with lesser opponents, it'll still sell. Canelo ran away from the 154 and 160 divisions just in time while it's getting hot now. A bunch of guys in both those weight classes now. Hurd, Charlo brothers, Munguia, Andrade etc... billy Joe seems like he lost a step. I see Canelo hanging around the 168 division for a little while so these guys at 160 can beat each other up, then he'll swoop back in and fight them. It's going to be tough for him to make it all the way back down to 154 now, unless he cheats like he's done before.

[aggerrard]

Not formally announced by either party, but reports have surfaced that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will move back down to 168 and face WBO super middleweight titlist Billy Joe Saunders on May 2 in Las Vegas. Alvarez is WBA 168 lb. "regular" champ after knocking out Rocky Fielding in December 2018.

It was between Saunders, who held a middleweight trinket before moving up to 168 and claiming a WBO title, and fellow Brit Callum Smith, who is the WBA "super" and Ring champ. Alvarez beat Smith's older brother, Liam, at 154 lbs. in 2016. A deal almost had to get hammered out this week or else the famed "Cinco De Mayo" weekend would've been in jeopardy.

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents. He is established in the MW division with title defenses vs GGG (controversial both times) and Jacobs. But Fielding might be one of the weakest champ in all divisions, when Canelo decided to face him. Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him. Saunders haven't looked good in his latest fights, so i am not surprised they are picking him over Callum Smith to defend the title. Meanwhile Canelo has relinquished the LHW title and avoids Beterbiev and Bivol.

It wouldn't surprise me if he takes the W vs Saunders and then gets an easy W fight vs someone like Kevin Lerena for a CW title.
I have Canelo as the p4p king atm - but i feel like he is taking the lighter challenges in the heavier divisions this far.

Canelo and De La Hoya is taking the blueprint from Mayweather. Fighting guys that's just right out their prime so they can have a good name under them. Or fighting guys that just got beat . I give Canelo much respect for fighting GGG after he was demolishing everybody, even though GGG spanked Canelo the first time. But now he has the contract and money behind him to make fights with lesser opponents, it'll still sell. Canelo ran away from the 154 and 160 divisions just in time while it's getting hot now. A bunch of guys in both those weight classes now. Hurd, Charlo brothers, Munguia, Andrade etc... billy Joe seems like he lost a step. I see Canelo hanging around the 168 division for a little while so these guys at 160 can beat each other up, then he'll swoop back in and fight them. It's going to be tough for him to make it all the way back down to 154 now, unless he cheats like he's done before.

I don't think he ran away. Legacy-wise he is making more noise now, jumping through divisions picking up world titles - and i am positive he would beat the guys you names. Hurd and Munguia would get absolutely shut down by Canelo, i see both knocked out. Andrade can possibly box with Canelo - and i'm not that high on the Charlo brothers. Neither have faced a real world-class opponent yet. And if Jermell is the 'top-dog' at 154, then i'd say it's a weak division.

[Papi_swav]

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents. He is established in the MW division with title defenses vs GGG (controversial both times) and Jacobs. But Fielding might be one of the weakest champ in all divisions, when Canelo decided to face him. Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him. Saunders haven't looked good in his latest fights, so i am not surprised they are picking him over Callum Smith to defend the title. Meanwhile Canelo has relinquished the LHW title and avoids Beterbiev and Bivol.

It wouldn't surprise me if he takes the W vs Saunders and then gets an easy W fight vs someone like Kevin Lerena for a CW title.
I have Canelo as the p4p king atm - but i feel like he is taking the lighter challenges in the heavier divisions this far.

Canelo and De La Hoya is taking the blueprint from Mayweather. Fighting guys that's just right out their prime so they can have a good name under them. Or fighting guys that just got beat . I give Canelo much respect for fighting GGG after he was demolishing everybody, even though GGG spanked Canelo the first time. But now he has the contract and money behind him to make fights with lesser opponents, it'll still sell. Canelo ran away from the 154 and 160 divisions just in time while it's getting hot now. A bunch of guys in both those weight classes now. Hurd, Charlo brothers, Munguia, Andrade etc... billy Joe seems like he lost a step. I see Canelo hanging around the 168 division for a little while so these guys at 160 can beat each other up, then he'll swoop back in and fight them. It's going to be tough for him to make it all the way back down to 154 now, unless he cheats like he's done before.

I don't think he ran away. Legacy-wise he is making more noise now, jumping through divisions picking up world titles - and i am positive he would beat the guys you names. Hurd and Munguia would get absolutely shut down by Canelo, i see both knocked out. Andrade can possibly box with Canelo - and i'm not that high on the Charlo brothers. Neither have faced a real world-class opponent yet. And if Jermell is the 'top-dog' at 154, then i'd say it's a weak division.

Hurd and Munguia will definitely give Canelo trouble, especially Munguia, that guy is tall and strong and has reach. You can't disregard those guys and think Canelo will just roll over them, Canelo has lost fights before and he has holes. He was losing the Khan fight, he was also losing the Kovalev fight. And we all know he lost the first GGG fight and the fight against Lara. I don't see Canelo dropping down to 154 anytime soon. And legacy wise, 168-175 is a much easier division than 160. He might fight GGG though but it's kind of no point at this point, GGG is definitely out his prime.

[cowboyronnie]

Wtf are you talking about? Hurd just got exposed by JRoc. Might never be the same. Munguia is just one trick. What does he have that JCC didn't, aside from 1 / 10th of the experience? They're just plodding heavy hitters who cut tonnes of weight. Munguia is going to move from journeymen and challenge Canelo????

That you think anything close to Hurd or Munguia could beat Canelo proves you're just a hater.

[Knickfan1982]

Hopefully the best version of Saunders shows up, otherwise it'll be light work for Canelo.

He does seem like the kind of guy who fights up or down according to his level of competition.

Much respect for Canelo and his run trough the divisions, but this far i feel like he have cherry-picked most of his opponents.Kovalev is and was way past his prime when Canelo picked him.

And he wasn't far removed from a tougher than expected fight with Anthony Yarde either.

[Knickfan1982]

Damn, I can't even find a decent torrent of this Mikey Garcia fight. The dude was a top 3 pound-for-pound in the world before he took that insane gamble against Spence, now he's barely on the radar. And I heard the fight was close even. Fuuuck. What a mistake that Spence fight was.

His power doesn't translate well at 147. He needs to stay at 140. If he stays at 147, him and Danny Garcia is a good matchup but I think Danny wins it.

I think he's just looking to cash out and all the bigger money fights are at 147. He'll stay there as long as he can be win enough fights to get the big fights. But once he no longer looks relevant at 147 he'll "reinvent himself" back at 140.

[Papi_swav]

Wtf are you talking about? Hurd just got exposed by JRoc. Might never be the same. Munguia is just one trick. What does he have that JCC didn't, aside from 1 / 10th of the experience? They're just plodding heavy hitters who cut tonnes of weight. Munguia is going to move from journeymen and challenge Canelo????

That you think anything close to Hurd or Munguia could beat Canelo proves you're just a hater.

Just because Hurd got "exposed" by JRoc doesn't make him any less of an opponent. You should know by now that styles make fights. Canelo is nowhere near as fast as Jroc. Munguia has a hell of a lot of power, he's proven that. I'm just saying u can't disregard those guys as if Canelo will just roll right over them when Canelo himself has flaws too.

You thinking Canelo will just walk over everybody as if he's untouchable or if he's Mayweather proves your just a bandwagoner. Canelo has 3 L's on my card and everybody else card but he was gift wrapped some wins. Didn't even mention the steroid chicken he was eating, twice ! Canelo is very good but his track record has some holes and he isn't the top boxer in the game.

[Papi_swav]

Damn, I can't even find a decent torrent of this Mikey Garcia fight. The dude was a top 3 pound-for-pound in the world before he took that insane gamble against Spence, now he's barely on the radar. And I heard the fight was close even. Fuuuck. What a mistake that Spence fight was.

His power doesn't translate well at 147. He needs to stay at 140. If he stays at 147, him and Danny Garcia is a good matchup but I think Danny wins it.

I think he's just looking to cash out and all the bigger money fights are at 147. He'll stay there as long as he can be win enough fights to get the big fights. But once he no longer looks relevant at 147 he'll "reinvent himself" back at 140.

Possibly. I think he should of stood at 135 a little longer but you're right. We seen that he can't really hang with the top fighters at 147.

[cowboyronnie]

Wtf are you talking about? Hurd just got exposed by JRoc. Might never be the same. Munguia is just one trick. What does he have that JCC didn't, aside from 1 / 10th of the experience? They're just plodding heavy hitters who cut tonnes of weight. Munguia is going to move from journeymen and challenge Canelo????

That you think anything close to Hurd or Munguia could beat Canelo proves you're just a hater.

Just because Hurd got "exposed" by JRoc doesn't make him any less of an opponent. You should know by now that styles make fights. Canelo is nowhere near as fast as Jroc. Munguia has a hell of a lot of power, he's proven that. I'm just saying u can't disregard those guys as if Canelo will just roll right over them when Canelo himself has flaws too.

You thinking Canelo will just walk over everybody as if he's untouchable or if he's Mayweather proves your just a bandwagoner. Canelo has 3 L's on my card and everybody else card but he was gift wrapped some wins. Didn't even mention the steroid chicken he was eating, twice ! Canelo is very good but his track record has some holes and he isn't the top boxer in the game.

Where did I say that? He would get wrecked by Beterbiev. And I think he's an obvious steroid cheat (I should include this opinion as a footnote in every post, apparently?).

You said Munguia would "especially" give Canelo "trouble". A guy coming off wins against Gary O'Sullivan and Allotay, after robbing Hogan. That might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this board. What does he have the JCC didn't? Seriously.

Let me quote you again:

Hurd and Munguia will definitely give Canelo trouble, especially Munguia,

LOL

Don't ever post again.