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Post #281 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:05 am

I think GSP keeps both guys standing and eats them up.

Post #282 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:45 am

The only kind of guy that actually exists that can beat GSP is someone that can keep him from ragdolling them in grappling, and beat him standing. The only guys that aren't like a weight class up that can challenge him as a grappler are Askren, MAia, Khabib, and none of them have a prayer of beating him standing.

Like Jon Jones, it's very hard for me to see someone just dominating GSP in grappling until I actually see it. Someone like Woodley that can keep GSP from taking him down, and offers explosion and knockout power with good striking is way more intriguing than a pure grappler.

Jasen777 · Post #283 » by **Jasen777** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:28 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:I think GSP keeps both guys standing and eats them up.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if GSP beat either Askren or Khabib by keeping it standing and jabbing his way to an easy decision.

Post #284 » by **Headliner** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:35 pm

Jasen777 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:I think GSP keeps both guys standing and eats them up.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if GSP beat either Askren or Khabib by keeping it standing and jabbing his way to an easy decision.

I really want to see Askren vs a top 5 LW to see where he actually stands in the big leagues. There's big questions that need to be answered, because like Khabib, he's dominated lesser named fighters.

Dana said he's getting a top 5 guy at LW, so who's name gets pulled?

RDA and Usman are scheduled against each other. So that's 2 top 5 guys there.
He's not fight Woodley ever.
That leaves Till and Colby.

Or maybe they stretch that top 5 to actually top 10 and give him Miai, Masdival, or Lawler?

I'm pumped to see who he faces.

Steelo Green · Post #285 » by **Steelo Green** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:04 pm

Headliner wrote:
Jasen777 wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:I think GSP keeps both guys standing and eats them up.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if GSP beat either Askren or Khabib by keeping it standing and jabbing his way to an easy decision.

I really want to see Askren vs a top 5 LW to see where he actually stands in the big leagues. There's big questions that need to be answered, because like Khabib, he's dominated lesser named fighters.

Dana said he's getting a top 5 guy at LW, so who's name gets pulled?

RDA and Usman are scheduled against each other. So that's 2 top 5 guys there.
He's not fight Woodley ever.
That leaves Till and Colby.

Or maybe they stretch that top 5 to actually top 10 and give him Miai, Masdival, or Lawler?

I'm pumped to see who he faces.

I think you mean Welterweight.

Steelo Green · Post #286 » by **Steelo Green** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:09 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:The only kind of guy that actually exists that can beat GSP is someone that can keep him from ragdolling them in grappling, and beat him standing. The only guys that aren't like a weight class up that can challenge him as a grappler are Askren, MAia, Khabib, and none of them have a prayer of beating him standing.

Like Jon Jones, it's very hard for me to see someone just dominating GSP in grappling until I actually see it. Someone like Woodley that can keep GSP from taking him down, and offers explosion and knockout power with good striking is way more intriguing than a pure grappler.

I agree but he has a lot of miles on him and is a lot older.

Bisping win was great but almost every sensible fan had that going GSPs way. I don't know what he looks like against the true elite now. Prime GSP takes it against Khabib, and Askren pretty easily (hate to say it as a Khabib fan but GSP was a great wrestler and insanely good standing up).

Woodley is the most interesting because he's so good at take down defence and has KO power. That fight though I don't see as a power fight but more of a tactical fight as both guys are big on respecting their opponents and knowing how to get points to win.

I don't see GSP fighting anyone except Khabib or Connor at this point. The others with their size would be a problem given he's no longer in his prime and after his battle with colitis.

Post #287 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:18 pm

GSP is only 37, and had a lot of time off. His gas tank didn't look perfect, but I'd expect that to be better at a more natural weight than 185... but his speed and athleticism looked very good. I think potential opponents are counting on him aging too much.

Bisping is a totally different fight because he's so much bigger than all the other guys being talked about, that's why it was interesting to me. A bigger guy who is a solid striker and could push the pace seemed like someone that could give Georges problems.

Seeing how easy he was able to out strike and take down a 185 lb champion gave me no hope of these smaller guys being able to handle Georges :lol:

Georges has no ego or maturity issues that could allow Conor to bait him into playing his game only. He will MAUL Conor, that fight would be completely noncompetitive.

There really isn't that compelling of a fight for Georges at a comfortable weight for both he AND his opponent, while also being an intrigue/money fight, aside from Askren I suppose. Anyone that I think would be even money or an advantage over GSP would be 185ers, until he shows advanced signs of aging. He's going to remain king of 170 and under pretty easily, even in his twilight.

Steelo Green · Post #288 » by **Steelo Green** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:13 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:GSP is only 37, and had a lot of time off. His gas tank didn't look perfect, but I'd expect that to be better at a more natural weight than 185... but his speed and athleticism looked very good. I think potential opponents are counting on him aging too much.

Bisping is a totally different fight because he's so much bigger than all the other guys being talked about, that's why it was interesting to me. A bigger guy who is a solid striker and could push the pace seemed like someone that could give Georges problems.

Seeing how easy he was able to out strike and take down a 185 lb champion gave me no hope of these smaller guys being able to handle Georges

Georges has no ego or maturity issues that could allow Conor to bait him into playing his game only. He will MAUL Conor, that fight would be completely noncompetitive.

There really isn't that compelling of a fight for Georges at a comfortable weight for both he AND his opponent, while also being an intrigue/money fight, aside from Askren I suppose. Anyone that I think would be even money or an advantage over GSP would be 185ers, until he shows advanced signs of aging. He's going to remain king of 170 and under pretty easily, even in his twilight.

Bobby Knuckles vs. GSP? Sign me up. Would be an amazing fight.

Post #289 » by **Headliner** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:54 pm

Cormier is saying do this at 165
I wonder if that is what is being aimed for?
Maybe GSP can’t make 155 or maybe Dana won’t sanction it because he doesn’t want the belt vacated
Or maybe it’s just wishful thinking, who knows

Steelo Green · Post #290 » by **Steelo Green** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:52 am

Headliner wrote:Cormier is saying do this at 165
I wonder if that is what is being aimed for?
Maybe GSP can’t make 155 or maybe Dana won’t sanction it because he doesn’t want the belt vacated
Or maybe it’s just wishful thinking, who knows

I see it being a 165 CW with Khabib keeping his title as Connor did with Nate win or lose to set up either a Connor rematch or Tony. It could be Tony and Connor to determine who fights Khabib which would be an amazing fight to see.

cowboyronnie · Post #291 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:38 pm

Watch on YouTube

This is from last week. Watch the padwork. God damnit, Chuck. There's a crazy thud to those punches but they're so slow and he's so uncoordinated. He sort of always had that jerkiness, I guess. But he looks terrible here. Why would they even release this?

More sad, he's such a good dude. There are some beautiful moments here:

Watch on YouTube

REDDzone · Post #292 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:11 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:I don't even know which I'd prefer: vs GSP or vs Askren. The latter is less a blockbuster but, for competition value, is nuts. Both undefeated wrestling beasts. Does Khabib just KO him w/ his newfound power? You know what, I'm more interested in that fight than seeing GSP just get mauled (likely).

Don't drive by this with Chuck Liddell talk d*amnit. I'm curious why you think Woodley/Khabib wouldn't be interesting because it's not competitive, but Khabib would maul GSP?

Do you even Canadian, bro?

cowboyronnie · Post #293 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:44 pm

REDDzone wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:I don't even know which I'd prefer: vs GSP or vs Askren. The latter is less a blockbuster but, for competition value, is nuts. Both undefeated wrestling beasts. Does Khabib just KO him w/ his newfound power? You know what, I'm more interested in that fight than seeing GSP just get mauled (likely).

Don't drive by this with Chuck Liddell talk d*amnit. I'm curious why you think Woodley/Khabib wouldn't be interesting because it's not competitive, but Khabib would maul GSP?

Do you even Canadian, bro?

In fact, other people (better Canadians than I) have made good points in this thread about GSP's prowess. Esp how effective he is striking. It had sorta slipped my mind.

I think I'd now lean to him beating all of these people.

Can-a-da, Ca-na-da, Ca-na-da, wooooh!

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #294 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:14 pm

LOOOL!!!

Post #295 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:28 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:

Watch on YouTube

This is from last week. Watch the padwork. God damnit, Chuck. There's a crazy thud to those punches but they're so slow and he's so uncoordinated. He sort of always had that jerkiness, I guess. But he looks terrible here. Why would they even release this?

More sad, he's such a good dude. There are some beautiful moments here:

Watch on YouTube

Post #296 » by **Headliner** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:57 pm

There’s a report khabib wants 50 mill for his next fight??.... lol

Post #297 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Nov 1, 2018 12:00 am

I thought he wasn't about that cheddar

cowboyronnie · Post #298 » by **cowboyronnie** » Thu Nov 1, 2018 2:47 am

He has made it clear he does not value money above all else, that's all. Not that he doesn't value money.

Jasen777 · Post #299 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Nov 1, 2018 2:59 am

Headliner wrote:There’s a report khabib wants 50 mill for his next fight??.... lol

That's just a negotiation opener, not something to take seriously. Unless he does box Floyd.

Post #300 » by **Headliner** » Thu Nov 1, 2018 1:22 pm

The problem is these guys are delusional. Nate Diaz won't fight anyone because he thinks he's this huge draw now. Khabib now thinks he's a huge draw. The reality is Conor is the draw and while they may feel a bump in their buyrates because of Conor, they are not going to sell what he does. Khabib vs Tony will be lucky to beat Cormier vs Stipe in rates.