Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets, etc.

[SDM]

Renzo Gracie live tweeted about two guys who tried to mug him.

http://twitter.com/RenzoGracieBJJ

What an idiot for tweeting about this. He just comes across as a violent douchebag.

That he was tweeting AS this was happening means he's a certified badass. If he choked the guy out three times and hit him more times than necessary, he's still a violent douchebag.

[REDDzone]

What an idiot for tweeting about this. He just comes across as a violent douchebag.

I would agree with you, assuming I actually believed him, but I don't. I'm sure something happened, but for sure not the same he told it (well, that's a given since his various interviews/tweets didn't even agree with each other).

[SDM]

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I was just walking through with my buddy in NYC near 20th and when he asked this stocky foreigner for a smoke, dude beat the hell out of him

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I'm retired from fighting, so I took off running, but this psycho with dreamy eyes got in his car and was searching to murder me

[High 5]

I totally think he's full of it, but my assessment applies whether its true, half true, or completely false. It reeks of desperate publicity stunt or midlife crisis.

[K1NG]

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I was just walking through with my buddy in NYC near 20th and when he asked this stocky foreigner for a smoke, dude beat the hell out of him

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I'm retired from fighting, so I took off running, but this psycho with dreamy eyes got in his car and was searching to murder me

Mayhem is desperate for attention.

He followed it up with:

Jason Mayhem Miller @mayhemmiller
Wait, i am in bed in California. That was just a strange dream. Disregard.

[REDDzone]

I totally think he's full of it, but my assessment applies whether its true, half true, or completely false. It reeks of desperate publicity stunt or midlife crisis.

Could just be Renzo being Renzo. Despite his bubbly twitter personality, looking back I don't think he ever had much honor.

[cowboyronnie]

I can't think of any honorable old school Gracies. Renzo stomped Marquardt's head and cornered Ryan and Ricardo during a lot of bull.

LOL at him trying to spin either GJJ overall or this incident as self-defense. It's all just street machismo. Own it.

To seriously wake a guy back up in order to choke him out again, cos it wasn't satisfying enough the first time? And to systematically punch an unconscious man? It's serial killer, psychotic stuff. Like, the choking someone and then waking them back up, that's what serial killers do because they have some insane need to harm.

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I was just walking through with my buddy in NYC near 20th and when he asked this stocky foreigner for a smoke, dude beat the hell out of him

Jason Mayhem Miller ‏@mayhemmiller
I'm retired from fighting, so I took off running, but this psycho with dreamy eyes got in his car and was searching to murder me

Mayhem is desperate for attention.

He followed it up with:

Jason Mayhem Miller @mayhemmiller
Wait, i am in bed in California. That was just a strange dream. Disregard.

stop it. it's good stuff.

[REDDzone]

Don't forget spitting in his opponent's face in Japan.

Renzo supposedly chased the guy down. That is not even close to self defense. But he'll laugh and call the interviewers "my friend" and show his gap toothed grin and it'll be all good.

[Gold Chain]

Yeah, but the pure humour of reaching into Renzo's front pocket to take his wallet is hilarious.

Like, in a way you have to feel bad for the mugger, as he had NO idea who that was.

And, most fighters are f'd. They won't say it in the press, but if a Matt Brown started on you if pressed,
it'd be extremely violent and scary.

You have to desire some level of inflicting pain to fight in combat sports to be good.
You have to be able to mentally get in a place to hurt someone and make their brain reset.
Luckily, these things mostly only happen in sanctioned bouts,
and most fighters are able to control and restrict these actions to the sport.

[REDDzone]

If you mean desire to inflict pain IN GENERAL (as in, on just anyone), then I can just not agree with those sentiments. It has just been so far from my experience with fighters and martial artists.

[cowboyronnie]

Yeah, but the pure humour of reaching into Renzo's front pocket to take his wallet is hilarious.

Like, in a way you have to feel bad for the mugger, as he had NO idea who that was.

And, most fighters are f'd. They won't say it in the press, but if a Matt Brown started on you if pressed,
it'd be extremely violent and scary.

You have to desire some level of inflicting pain to fight in combat sports to be good.
You have to be able to mentally get in a place to hurt someone and make their brain reset.
Luckily, these things mostly only happen in sanctioned bouts,
and most fighters are able to control and restrict these actions to the sport.

No, I disagree totally. It's more often your response to other people's aggression than your own aggression. It's not hard to be aggressive. It's hard to be aggressive after you've just had your nervous system rocked by a punch across the jaw.

Maybe the overall desire to fight - the fantasy that runs through your head - tends towards people who are into violence, but I think just as often it's people who are interested in certain elements of self-control and martial discipline and stuff.

[Gold Chain]

Yeah, but the pure humour of reaching into Renzo's front pocket to take his wallet is hilarious.

Like, in a way you have to feel bad for the mugger, as he had NO idea who that was.

And, most fighters are f'd. They won't say it in the press, but if a Matt Brown started on you if pressed,
it'd be extremely violent and scary.

You have to desire some level of inflicting pain to fight in combat sports to be good.
You have to be able to mentally get in a place to hurt someone and make their brain reset.
Luckily, these things mostly only happen in sanctioned bouts,
and most fighters are able to control and restrict these actions to the sport.

No, I disagree totally. It's more often your response to other people's aggression than your own aggression. It's not hard to be aggressive. It's hard to be aggressive after you've just had your nervous system rocked by a punch across the jaw.

Maybe the overall desire to fight - the fantasy that runs through your head - tends towards people who are into violence, but I think just as often it's people who are interested in certain elements of self-control and martial discipline and stuff.

But there's no blueprint, CBR.

Even my best of friends, we are very different.
Same goes for fighters.

Totally agree with the discipline and the valour and control, but I really truly believe that you have to have a dark side as well to be a successful fighter. Now, maybe that will only come out at the gym in hard-sparring, or in a ring or cage,
but it's in there. I think controlling it and using it as a weapon works for some. Possibly concealing it, and acting as though you're a JDS-typer.

I am very, very lucky to know two very talented martial artists who usually de-bunk half the dumb stuff I say, because they've fought, have amazing technique and have done it, while I've never been in anything other than sloppy streetfights. (Not anymore though, I's growned up)

Point is, of these two guys, and close with both, one is an angel and would move worms out of a puddle to save it's life on a rainy day, while the other, in private, remarked that he would work himself into a mode where he literally would only come back to reality after the fight was over. Like saw his stepdad's head on your shoulder from bell to bell. And he even said, that sometimes it backfired, while other times it put him on another level over his opponent.

I don't know, it's hard for me to say, again I don't fight. But I do know that for every angel walking down the aisle to a fight, you see a hell of a lot of guys with, and excuse me for this, "That look in his eye."

Just my two cents.

[Gold Chain]

If you mean desire to inflict pain IN GENERAL (as in, on just anyone), then I can just not agree with those sentiments. It has just been so far from my experience with fighters and martial artists.

Not "In general", in a fight sense.

As in, James Toney wanting to legit hurt guys coming in to spar with him.

[REDDzone]

I think there is definitely as aspect of "I am willing to hurt another human being" that I'm not sure everyone has.

[Gold Chain]

I think there is definitely as aspect of "I am willing to hurt another human being" that I'm not sure everyone has.

But in the context of a fighting sport.

I don't believe people should be scrapping on the streets, and my number one pet peeve is some ass trying to force some person who does not want to fight into a fight.

[Headliner]

lol Dana goes nuts on G.Jackson.

LAS VEGAS -- The fallout from UFC 151's cancellation isn't going away anytime soon as UFC president Dana White talked again on Thursday about his displeasure for comments made by light heavyweight champ Jon Jones and his camp. The Jon Jones piece of meat (expletive) thing. When I see him in (expletive) Toronto, that's the first (expletive) thing we're going to talk about. Piece of meat? Give me a (expletive) break, White told a small group of reporters gathered at the UFC headquarters, about an upcoming conversation he would have with Jones before his UFC 152 fight next weekend against Vitor Belfort in Canada.That sounds like something a male supermodel would say: I feel like a piece of meat out here (White said in a mocking voice).That pisses me off worse than (expletive) canceling the event. I just heard that one today, Jim Rome told me that. (Editor's note: The piece of meat remark from Jon Jones comes at the 16:23 point in our video below.) Closure for UFC's boss doesn't seem any closer after UFC 151 went up in flames last month when Dan Henderson was forced to pull out because of a knee injury and Jones refused a bout against substitute opponent Chael Sonnen.Every time somebody asks me if I take responsibility for canceling UFC 151 on (expletive) Twitter, it's like ' Yeah, how's it my fault?' White said of the UFC's first canceled event in 11 years. If somebody can even try to give me an idea of how that's my fault that 151 got canceled, I would love to hear it.Dan Henderson should have told me three weeks before that his (expletive) knee was hurt, and maybe I could have saved it. And Jon Jones should have fought (expletive) Chael Sonnen. And his (expletive) goofy trainer should have kept his face shut.White — who unleashed on Jones' trainer, Greg Jackson, on a media call immediately after the event's cancellation — certainly didn't hold back any verbal barbs when talking about the New Mexico-based trainer again on Thursday.The thing that drives me crazy about Greg Jackson is Greg Jackson has this whole little thing where he's the nicest guy in the world, the nicest guy you've ever met. Real quiet and humble. He's a (expletive) hardcore businessman, White said. That's what that guy is. He plays the whole thing with Jon and Rashad (Evans) and (expletive) Jardine and all these guys 'We're all family, we're all brothers. We're a big family here and that's what we are. We won't fight each other because we're family.'(Expletive) You're not family. You train together. Yes they like each other. There's a lot of nice guys in MMA. Keith Jardine is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Rashad is cool too. This sport is full of nice guys. (But Greg) plays this card with these guys…Before White could catch his breath, his rant on Jackson continued.The only reason we even know who Greg Jackson is cause of (expletive) Diego Sanchez, White said. Diego Sanchez came out of his camp because of GSP. GSP wanted to come train at Jackson's camp and Diego was like (expletive) that (expletive). 'This is my house, man. I'm going to have to fight this guy one day.' What did Greg Jackson do? (Expletive) GSP down there isn't he. You know why because he believed GSP would (expletive) beat Diego Sanchez. He made a business decision. I will take him over him. What happened to (expletive) family?Who could be more family to you than (expletive) Diego Sanchez, the kid's been with you since he was (expletive) 14 years old. What happened to family, Greg, you (expletive) family-guy you.Then you got Rashad Evans, Rashad Evans was with him the second-longest other than Diego Sanchez. 'That's his brother, we're brothers. He's my family. He's this, that and everything else.' Jon Jones wanted to come train there and comes in and everything is cool. Who the (expletive) did Greg Jackson pick? He picked the guy who he thought would beat Rashad Evans, no matter how (expletive) long Rashad Evans had been with him. He made a (expletive) business decision. He's a businessman, he's a (expletive), he's a (expletive) con artist.At this point in his vitriolic speech, White tries to backup a tiny bit before closing his argument with one final blast against Jackson.Let me be fair. It's good to have a trainer whom you respect. To keep you in (expletive) line, that you don't run the (expletive) show, White continued. To keep you in order, and you respect him enough to run a camp. And have his (expletive) together to keep your life organized and focused and ready for a (expletive) fight and can breakdown (the fight) and do all this other stuff. But Greg Jackson is a (expletive) businessman who cons all these guys into this family (expletive). Because it would be the perfect (expletive) world if I can have Diego, GSP, Rashad, Jon Jones and a list of other (expletive) characters who don't have to fight each other because they're all the best in the world. And if they don't ever have to (expletive) fight each other, he makes money from all of these guy…

[K1NG]

I thought this part was interesting too:

White relayed the story of how he called Jones immediately after learning of Henderson's injury and seemed to have a fight against Sonnen all set.

"I was driving off the freeway, I had just landed and called him and told him what Sonnen said and he (expletive) laughed," White said of Jones' initial reaction. "It wasn't like: Whoa (expletive) this might be the biggest mistake of my (expletive) career.

"I thought we had a (expletive) fight. He was laughing and was like 'Alright I'm going to call my team and call you back in a little while.' And then they call back and it was a completely different (expletive) story. It was the genius Greg Jackson that talked him out of the fight. Talked him out of fighting Chael Sonnen on eight days (expletive) notice, yet fighting Vitor Belfort off a full (expletive) camp.

"Ok, we were gonna fight Dan Henderson, guy's got (expletive) knockout power, great wrestling, a good chin, tough (expletive) guy. Now here's Chael Sonnen on eight days notice and he's a (expletive) 185 pounder, coming in with no camp whatsoever. And you heard what they said: he's a southpaw. Vitor Belfort's a (expletive) southpaw. And hits (expletive) harder, and is faster and more explosive. So you're gonna (expletive) say no to him on eight days notice but fight (Vitor). It's so stupid that it gets me angry."

[blkout]

I love Dana

[Headliner]

Same.
Dana might not be eloquent, but he's the real deal and wears his heart on his sleeve.
Even when he's being a a greasy D-bag, he's pretty transparent about things.

[SDM]

I picked up Undisputed 3. What do you guys think of it?