Cammo Counts Down The Top 100 MMA Fighters of All Time

[Cammo101]

Hendo.

Got an awesome resume, should probably be one spot higher, but was he ever truly dominant? Maybe his fight anyone, anywhere, anytime nature prevented him from running off one of those streaks, but it doesn't seem like he ever even won 5 fights in a row, nevermind 10, 20, 30 like the guys ahead of him.

I'm not even arguing his placement really, I guess it just speaks to how big a drop off there is between the top 3 and the tier below.

Hard to run off a streak with the quality of figher he has constantly fought. In his 38 career fights, he has fought...

Machida, Shogun, Fedor, Rafael Feijao, Babalu twice, Jake Shields, Bisping, Franklin, Palhares, Anderson Silva, Rampage, Wanderlei twice, Belfort, Kaz Misaki twice, Bustamante twice, Akihiro Gono, Ryo Chonan, Big Nog twice, Kondo, Ricardo Arona, Ninja Rua, Little Nog, Akira Shoji, Renzo Gracie, Gilbert Yvel, and Carlos Newton.

That murderer's row is 31 of Hendo's 38 opponents. How many guys go 29-9 with that level of opponent?

[Susan]

Jon Jones runs through a majority of those dudes.

[UN-Owen]

Randleman vs Coleman

Here's a list of their shared opponents:

Fedor
Couture
Cro Cop
Rua
Rizzo
Maurice Smith
Pete Williams

Coleman is winless against all of them with a combined record of 0 - 8
(I'm not counting the win over Rua because it was a fluke arm break and Rua avenged that loss via TKO)

Meanwhile, Randleman has a 4 - 4 record against the same group of fighters


There's really no justification for having Coleman (#16) and Kerr (#60) ranked so far head of Randleman

[NZB2323]

Jon Jones runs through a majority of those dudes.

Jon Jones couldn't make weight for the 185 fights though, and Hendo is a guy who is under 205 on fight night that took on 2 of the best heavyweights of all time.

I'm not arguing that Hendo should be above Anderson Silva, but how well would Anderson Silva do against Big Nog twice, Fedor, Machida, Shogun, Rampage, Pride Wanderlei Silva twice, and a clone of himself?

I think in order for Jon Jones to pass Hendo P4P, Jones has to have a lot of success at HW.

[Cammo101]

#4 - Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell



http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chuck-Liddell-192

Chuck Liddell is a UFC Hall of Famer and one of the most dominate champions in the history of the promotion. He is the former UFC Light Heavyweight champion. Liddell has a career record of 21-8, and a UFC record of 16-7. He holds career victories over Wanderlei Silva, Tito Ortiz twice, Vitor Belfort, Alistair Overeem, Guy Mezger, and Randy Couture twice.

[CPT]

I think I'd drop Chuck a few spots.

Looking back at his resume, it's impressive, but is it top 4 of all time impressive? I don't think so.

He was considered the best LHW in the world for a time, but I think that may have been UFC hype at work.

I think once Jones takes over that best LHW ever title, people will reevaluate things and Shogun will end up ahead of Chuck as well.

[Jasen777]

1 title, four defenses (while Rampage and Shogun were in pride and were possibly better). His record looks a lot like Jones' if he losses 5 of his next 6 in retires.

[Cammo101]

1 title, four defenses (while Rampage and Shogun were in pride and were possibly better). His record looks a lot like Jones' if he losses 5 of his next 6 in retires.

That is not really fair. Most of Chuck's losses came when he was clearly on the downside of his career. A lot of very highly ranked guys on this list had similar ends to their careers.

I do agree though that it is only a matter of time (possibly months) before Jones moves ahead of Chuck.

[Jasen777]

That is not really fair. Most of Chuck's losses came when he was clearly on the downside of his career. A lot of very highly ranked guys on this list had similar ends to their careers.

Sure. Throw out his last six fights. He's 20-3, 4 title defenses. Jones is 18-1, 5 title defenses. Liddell probably faced tougher competition overall (Jones had a few gimmies at the start nad chuck also had a few more fights). OTOH Liddell was finished 3 times, whereas Jones' only loss was by disqualification in a fight he was winning easily. This is more of an argument against Liddell being number 4, than saying Jones should be higher (I'd agree he could use more longevity).

Of course, it's mostly subjective anyways.

[Cammo101]

That is not really fair. Most of Chuck's losses came when he was clearly on the downside of his career. A lot of very highly ranked guys on this list had similar ends to their careers.

Sure. Throw out his last six fights. He's 20-3, 4 title defenses. Jones is 18-1, 5 title defenses. Liddell probably faced tougher competition overall (Jones had a few gimmies at the start nad chuck also had a few more fights). OTOH Liddell was finished 3 times, whereas Jones' only loss was by disqualification in a fight he was winning easily. This is more of an argument against Liddell being number 4, than saying Jones should be higher (I'd agree he could use more longevity).

Of course, it's mostly subjective anyways.

The difference between the guys 4-8 is minimal.

[UN-Owen]

That is not really fair. Most of Chuck's losses came when he was clearly on the downside of his career. A lot of very highly ranked guys on this list had similar ends to their careers.

Sure. Throw out his last six fights. He's 20-3, 4 title defenses. Jones is 18-1, 5 title defenses. Liddell probably faced tougher competition overall (Jones had a few gimmies at the start nad chuck also had a few more fights). OTOH Liddell was finished 3 times, whereas Jones' only loss was by disqualification in a fight he was winning easily. This is more of an argument against Liddell being number 4, than saying Jones should be higher (I'd agree he could use more longevity).

Of course, it's mostly subjective anyways.

The difference between the guys 4-8 is minimal.

Because of the physical advantages he has, the difference between Jones and someone like Henderson or Liddell isn't really all that minimal

He's a superior fighter to both of them

[Cammo101]

Because of the physical advantages he has, the difference between Jones and someone like Henderson or Liddell isn't really all that minimal

He's a superior fighter to both of them

I agree, and time will show that to be true.

[Cammo101]

#3 - Fedor Emelianenko



http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fedor-Emelianenko-1500

Former Pride Heavyweight champion and Pride 2004 Grand Prix champion, Fedor all but unbeatable for an entire decade. Losing only once, on a cut stoppage between 2000 and 2010. Fedor was the cream of the crop in Pride, which at the time had most of the top Heavyweights in MMA. His career record is 34-4-1, with a Pride record of 14-0-1. Fedor holds career victories over Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Mirko Cro Cop, Mark Coleman twice, and Big Nog twice.

[High 5]

I've been waiting since 50. I knew he had to be 3 when he wasn't 4. Some part of me still feels like he should be 2.

[Cammo101]

I've been waiting since 50. I knew he had to be 3 when he wasn't 4. Some part of me still feels like he should be 2.

He'd be #71 on Dana's list.

[CPT]

#3 seems right for Fedor.

Truthfully, looking back at his resume, it's not as impressive as I remember, even if you discount the recent losses.

I guess when we look at GSP and Silva's resumes they might not look that impressive either now that I think about it.

[REDDzone]

Truthfully, looking back at his resume, it's not as impressive as I remember, even if you discount the recent losses.

I guess when we look at GSP and Silva's resumes they might not look that impressive either now that I think about it.

I agree with both sentiments.

[NZB2323]

I have Fedor as #1 all time. IMHO he could have made LHW, which has to account for something in the P4P rankings. GSP never fought a guy bigger than him. Anderson Silva has fought 3 guys bigger than him, but never an elite guy that's bigger than him.

Also, the record for HW title defenses in the UFC is 2. Matt Hughes was a dominating WW champion before GSP, and there will be a dominating WW champion after GSP. Wand was a dominate MW in Pride, and we could see someone like Chris Weidman dominate the MW division after Silva retires.

The two best HW in the UFC won't fight each other, and Jon Jones is moving up to HW. I don't see anyone dominating that divison anytime soon. I guess you can say that Fedor never fought elite wrestlers in the UFC, but he did destroy UFC champions in PRIDE. Will there ever be another HW who goes unbeaten for a decade?

[REDDzone]

Will there ever be another HW who goes unbeaten for a decade?

I definitely have Anderson before Fedor at this point, but the answer to this question is "absolutely not".

[Cammo101]

Also, the record for HW title defenses in the UFC is 2. Matt Hughes was a dominating WW champion before GSP, and there will be a dominating WW champion after GSP. Wand was a dominate MW in Pride, and we could see someone like Chris Weidman dominate the MW division after Silva retires.

Pride's Middleweight division is the equivalent of Light Heavyweight. It was 205.