Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 5

[BorkLazer]

Why the hell would the UFC announce something like this only 2 weeks out from the event? Makes no sense. It's probably just a belt redesign as Bisping said.

[Headliner]

So Dana said that usman gets the next title fight vs Woodly or someone else.
I’m wondering if that’s Dana just being a douche or if it could mean 165 is coming and 170 is dissolving to become 175 and it gives him the ability to say fight usman for the 175 title or your not the champ because it’s a new division

[Steelo Green]

So Dana said that usman gets the next title fight vs Woodly or someone else.
I’m wondering if that’s Dana just being a douche or if it could mean 165 is coming and 170 is dissolving to become 175 and it gives him the ability to say fight usman for the 175 title or your not the champ because it’s a new division

Given the Woodley hate, I bet it's for the MW title, maybe against Colby if he's healthy.

But in all likelihood it's Woodley vs. Usman with an easy W for Tyron.

[Steelo Green]

Why the hell would the UFC announce something like this only 2 weeks out from the event? Makes no sense. It's probably just a belt redesign as Bisping said.

Was anything announced or did I miss something?

[BorkLazer]

Why the hell would the UFC announce something like this only 2 weeks out from the event? Makes no sense. It's probably just a belt redesign as Bisping said.

Was anything announced or did I miss something?

I was responding to a previous post about a new division or belts. Forgot to quote it apparently.

[kimuradragon]

Watch on YouTube

[Jasen777]

ESPN not wasting any time putting UFC top 10 shows on the Deuce.

[Bernman]

I don't think it's a sustainable business model, and confident it's just to derail Bellator so UFC doesn't have competition, but it was pretty darn cool seeing a bunch of guys become millionaires and change their lives at the end of their tourneys last night in PFL.

Especially Sean O'Connell, who came out of retirement, after a pretty rough stint in UFC, and brawled some dudes out in picking up the best wins of his career. He was the dog throughout most of the tournament, but like he said all you have to do is win. Also of note is they gave him a play-by-play gig, and he fought during some of the events he commentated. Going back to single-duty now that he went back into retirement. What a way to go out.

[Bernman]

Jimmy Smith, we hardly knew ye in this capacity. His contract ended already and the UFC declined to re-up him. I'm at a loss. It was confusing enough Bellator cut him loose, but he was even better in the biggest org having risen to the challenge. He was technical, lively, and smooth.

Where he goes from here, I don't know. It would be odd if Bellator brought him back, even though that's what I would do. Odds are he lands in One or PFL, if the latter remains in business. Maybe that was the whole plan for UFC to let him handle their feeder org.

[REDDzone]

I don't think it's a sustainable business model, and confident it's just to derail Bellator so UFC doesn't have competition, but it was pretty darn cool seeing a bunch of guys become millionaires and change their lives at the end of their tourneys last night in PFL.

Especially Sean O'Connell, who came out of retirement, after a pretty rough stint in UFC, and brawled some dudes out in picking up the best wins of his career. He was the dog throughout most of the tournament, but like he said all you have to do is win. Also of note is they gave him a play-by-play gig, and he fought during some of the events he commentated. Going back to single-duty now that he went back into retirement. What a way to go out.

You almost gotta wonder if PFL will succeed with it's niche literally (sadly) being that there actually exists a merit-based system.

I enjoyed their season tbh. Only thing that really bothers me is the tie breaker being who won the first round, seems weird that a guy could theoretically be saved by the bell at the end of the 2nd round, draw 1-2 as the fight result, but advance because they edged round 1.

[Bernman]

You almost gotta wonder if PFL will succeed with it's niche literally (sadly) being that there actually exists a merit-based system.

I enjoyed their season tbh. Only thing that really bothers me is the tie breaker being who won the first round, seems weird that a guy could theoretically be saved by the bell at the end of the 2nd round, draw 1-2 as the fight result, but advance because they edged round 1.

I thoroughly enjoyed the 1st rd and the last rd. In between I lost interest. They have kinks to work out.

You mentioned one. Was even worse when Watley beat Tavares because he won the first rd and then delivered a crushing ball-shot at which point they went to the cards.

I agree though, the tiebreaker should be the last rd if anything because if you continue the fight that guy would be most likely to win. It should rarely be needed however. The reason why it was came from the desire to put on 2 fights in one night. Obviously didn't need to do that with the 3 month gap before the final rd. Just have 1 rd every 2 months or so. A full 2 divisions fighters on the same night.

And probably should ditch the point system. All this is to incentivize earlier finishes. But it was just too tough to figure out what each fighter needed to do to advance. Produce a lot of finishes initially, but it's not worth it, and they could replace it with a guaranteed finish bonus of 10k or something.

This is in the direction of the type of organization I'd ideally want to see. With the UFC going to the Entertainment SPORTS Network now, that may be true of their new base as well. In addition to PFL being a Bellator saboteur, I think it's also a testing ground for the UFC.

[Duke4life831]

Jimmy Smith, we hardly knew ye in this capacity. His contract ended already and the UFC declined to re-up him. I'm at a loss. It was confusing enough Bellator cut him loose, but he was even better in the biggest org having risen to the challenge. He was technical, lively, and smooth.

Where he goes from here, I don't know. It would be odd if Bellator brought him back, even though that's what I would do. Odds are he lands in One or PFL, if the latter remains in business. Maybe that was the whole plan for UFC to let him handle their feeder org.

Ya I'm sure he ends up at One. I'm curious where the UFC goes in the next couple years when it comes to the commentating crew. I think their best team by far is Anik/Rogan/DC. Good knowledge, great chemistry and good flow. I liked Cruz at the start even though him and Rogan have horrible chemistry, but I thought Cruz has been rough to listen to his last few big fights. I think he maybe suited better for a TV job on ESPN.

When they signed Jimmy I thought he was going to be a staple for the non Rogan called fights, guess I was wrong there.

[Headliner]

Listening to the Khabib vs Mayweather talk is nauseating. It's such a joke. Khabib would look like that Japanese fighter out there, and if he thinks he's making 100 mill he's delusional. He'd make 15 mill at most. The PPV sales would be dreadful, and the promotional tour leading up would be laughable. Khabib can't sell a fight. He'll just sit there and be like "you will see" and then get KO'd in round 1 or 2.

Listening to his manager, it's just crazy. They act like he's the Goat and like he's cleaned out his division the guy's beat no one beside Conor who is the perfect match up for him. Getting tired of him.

[cowboyronnie]

Jimmy Smith, we hardly knew ye in this capacity. His contract ended already and the UFC declined to re-up him. I'm at a loss. It was confusing enough Bellator cut him loose, but he was even better in the biggest org having risen to the challenge. He was technical, lively, and smooth.

Where he goes from here, I don't know. It would be odd if Bellator brought him back, even though that's what I would do. Odds are he lands in One or PFL, if the latter remains in business. Maybe that was the whole plan for UFC to let him handle their feeder org.

Ya I'm sure he ends up at One. I'm curious where the UFC goes in the next couple years when it comes to the commentating crew. I think their best team by far is Anik/Rogan/DC. Good knowledge, great chemistry and good flow. I liked Cruz at the start even though him and Rogan have horrible chemistry, but I thought Cruz has been rough to listen to his last few big fights. I think he maybe suited better for a TV job on ESPN.

When they signed Jimmy I thought he was going to be a staple for the non Rogan called fights, guess I was wrong there.

Cruz isn't performing poorly, he's just saving his energy.

[NO-KG-AI]

I think I'd prefer to listen to Cruz do a breakdown after a fight as opposed to commentary.

[Shaazzam]

Jimmy Smith, we hardly knew ye in this capacity. His contract ended already and the UFC declined to re-up him. I'm at a loss. It was confusing enough Bellator cut him loose, but he was even better in the biggest org having risen to the challenge. He was technical, lively, and smooth.

Where he goes from here, I don't know. It would be odd if Bellator brought him back, even though that's what I would do. Odds are he lands in One or PFL, if the latter remains in business. Maybe that was the whole plan for UFC to let him handle their feeder org.

Ya I'm sure he ends up at One. I'm curious where the UFC goes in the next couple years when it comes to the commentating crew. I think their best team by far is Anik/Rogan/DC. Good knowledge, great chemistry and good flow. I liked Cruz at the start even though him and Rogan have horrible chemistry, but I thought Cruz has been rough to listen to his last few big fights. I think he maybe suited better for a TV job on ESPN.

When they signed Jimmy I thought he was going to be a staple for the non Rogan called fights, guess I was wrong there.

Cruz isn't performing poorly, he's just saving his energy.

actually spit out my coffee, well done

[Duke4life831]

Jimmy Smith, we hardly knew ye in this capacity. His contract ended already and the UFC declined to re-up him. I'm at a loss. It was confusing enough Bellator cut him loose, but he was even better in the biggest org having risen to the challenge. He was technical, lively, and smooth.

Where he goes from here, I don't know. It would be odd if Bellator brought him back, even though that's what I would do. Odds are he lands in One or PFL, if the latter remains in business. Maybe that was the whole plan for UFC to let him handle their feeder org.

Ya I'm sure he ends up at One. I'm curious where the UFC goes in the next couple years when it comes to the commentating crew. I think their best team by far is Anik/Rogan/DC. Good knowledge, great chemistry and good flow. I liked Cruz at the start even though him and Rogan have horrible chemistry, but I thought Cruz has been rough to listen to his last few big fights. I think he maybe suited better for a TV job on ESPN.

When they signed Jimmy I thought he was going to be a staple for the non Rogan called fights, guess I was wrong there.

Cruz isn't performing poorly, he's just saving his energy.

I actually just watched the Khabib/Conor fight last night with some family, since ESPN reaired that fight. My family are very novice when it comes to MMA. Once Cruz said, "Conor is just trying to gas out Khabib", 3 of them that were watching all started laughing haha. Then laughed even more when Rogan called him out a couple seconds later when he said, "I dont think this is intentional, I think Conor is just getting pummeled".

Get Cruz and Dan Hardy to breakdown fights, that would be good to see (I think Hardy does a very good job on the UFC youtube channel). But Cruz and Rogan just never clicked. Rogan clicks a lot better with DC.

[Headliner]

Cruz and Rogan both have a "I'm the smartest man in the room" attitude, I think that's a big reason they don't click. They like to correct each other, or become contrarian in order to assert themselves as the alpha. That's not all on Cruz, Rogan can be a dick at times.
Cormier doesn't have that stubbornness in the same way, or because of who he is Rogan doesn't have that Alpha attitude with him.

I like Cruz though, just not with Rogan.

[REDDzone]

Yea, Cruz does the thing where he argues sh*t he doesn't even really believe just to go against someone who annoys him which obviously Joe does. I feel like it's been better on that front lately though.

I'm kind of sick of both Cruz and Rogan tbh. Just like his podcasts, it's pretty clear Rogan doesn't really prep for UFC events anymore. I miss the research and fight week insights of a guy like Brian Stann.

[Duke4life831]

Cruz and Rogan both have a "I'm the smartest man in the room" attitude, I think that's a big reason they don't click. They like to correct each other, or become contrarian in order to assert themselves as the alpha. That's not all on Cruz, Rogan can be a dick at times.
Cormier doesn't have that stubbornness in the same way, or because of who he is Rogan doesn't have that Alpha attitude with him.

I like Cruz though, just not with Rogan.

Ya I agree 100%. I think its beyond obvious that both guys dont hesitate for a second when they can call each other out on something. The entire Khabib/Conor fight is basically just Rogan and Cruz disagreeing with each other, I thought Rogan came out looking better because Cruz had some really bad takes all throughout that fight. But ya I think both guys have big egos and that is why they clash so much, they just have horrible chemistry.

DC just seems like such a happy go lucky guy, that he just doesnt care to try and look like the guy who is always right. I also think Rogan just likes DC more on just a normal friend to friend level.

I wouldnt mind seeing more of Dan Hardy, I think he is very smart and has gotten a lot better calling fights. I still think Cruz is best at breaking down fights, not calling them.