Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 5

[lilfishi22]

I really thought Cain was going to wrestlefk Ngannou

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Go back a few pages in this very thread and you will see an argument I had with 2-3 guys who were saying UFC must hate Francis for making him fight Cain, this is a mismatch, etc.

Cain is 1-2 since Ngannou's career BEGAN and some people felt it was a mismatch in favor of Cain. Ngannous has finished more fighters since 2017 than Cain has THIS DECADE and Cain was the favorite. That is pretty much the definition of a myth.

[RalphWiggum]

He just looked really good beating Bigfoot and JDS and Bigfoot and JDS. But shows just how tough it is to clear out a division like GSP did.

The heavyweight division is such a different animal than all the others.

A guy ranked 15th beating the top ranked heavyweight is way more likely than in any other division.

There's a reason nobody has ever had a long run.

And the guy that did have the longest run in the UFC ever, didn't even get an immediate rematch. Dana has never had any love for Stipe.

Dana and the UFC in general are a joke. There's a reason a sport that was going bonkers 5 years ago is almost an afterthought if McGregor isn't fighting.

[RalphWiggum]

Go back a few pages in this very thread and you will see an argument I had with 2-3 guys who were saying UFC must hate Francis for making him fight Cain, this is a mismatch, etc.

Cain is 1-2 since Ngannou's career BEGAN and some people felt it was a mismatch in favor of Cain. That is pretty much the definition of a myth.

4 years ago it's a huge mismatch. MMA fans live in bizarro world where time, injuries and lackluster performances don't exist.

[jc23]

looks like Cain got clipped but his knee is what caused the stoppage. At this point retirement should be the only option if your Cains trainer/manager. The guys body will no longer hold up to the wear and tear of training.

[RalphWiggum]

looks like Cain got clipped but his knee is what caused the stoppage. At this point retirement should be the only option if your Cains trainer/manager. The guys body will no longer hold up to the wear and tear of training.

For a guy so dependant on wrestling it definitely looks like the end.

[jc23]

Its hard to say who is the best HW ever but Cain is in the discussion. There just hasnt been that GSP type in the history of the category, someone that had longevity and dominance over the division.

[NO-KG-AI]

ALso weird that a guy that was never a big kicker decides in his last two fights, which were 2.5 years apart, and multiple amounts of massive injuries, that you're gonna go out throwing spinning kicks early and often. Way to keep the pressure off those brittle legs which you've destroyed with ignorant training.

[RalphWiggum]

Its hard to say who is the best HW ever but Cain is in the discussion. There just hasnt been that GSP type in the history of the category, someone that had longevity and dominance over the division.

The Fedor that beat Big Nog the first time and the Cain that beat Brock is the dream fantasy fight in the division.

As great as Cain looked in the Brock fight I doubt anyone that ever lived could beat that version of Fedor.

[REDDzone]

Its hard to say who is the best HW ever but Cain is in the discussion. There just hasnt been that GSP type in the history of the category, someone that had longevity and dominance over the division.

The Fedor the beat Big Nog the first time and the Cain that beat Brock is the dream fantasy fight in the division.

As great as Cain looked in the Brock fight I doubt anyone that ever lived could beat that version of Fedor.

You guys know I don't like Jones but the guy in his last two fights has transcended the sport. Picograms or not, pulsing or roiding, whatever. Fighting that guy is like walking into a helicopter's blades. Nobody in history could beat him. Not Fedor or Cain or Mike Tyson or a Spartan Warrior or a Neanderthal or any humanoid in history.

[lilfishi22]

Its hard to say who is the best HW ever but Cain is in the discussion. There just hasnt been that GSP type in the history of the category, someone that had longevity and dominance over the division.

The Fedor the beat Big Nog the first time and the Cain that beat Brock is the dream fantasy fight in the division.

As great as Cain looked in the Brock fight I doubt anyone that ever lived could beat that version of Fedor.

You guys know I don't like Jones but the guy in his last two fights has transcended the sport. Picograms or not, pulsing or roiding, whatever. Fighting that guy is like walking into a helicopter's blades. Nobody in history could beat him. Not Fedor or Cain or Mike Tyson or a Spartan Warrior or a Neanderthal or any humanoid in history.

Have to agree here and I don't particularly Jones and was a huge Fedor fan.

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[RalphWiggum]

Its hard to say who is the best HW ever but Cain is in the discussion. There just hasnt been that GSP type in the history of the category, someone that had longevity and dominance over the division.

The Fedor the beat Big Nog the first time and the Cain that beat Brock is the dream fantasy fight in the division.

As great as Cain looked in the Brock fight I doubt anyone that ever lived could beat that version of Fedor.

You guys know I don't like Jones but the guy in his last two fights has transcended the sport. Picograms or not, pulsing or roiding, whatever. Fighting that guy is like walking into a helicopter's blades. Nobody in history could beat him. Not Fedor or Cain or Mike Tyson or a Spartan Warrior or a Neanderthal or any humanoid in history.

I think Gus beat him in their first fight. I certainly don't think him getting the decision was outrageous but I personally thought he lost that fight and many others agree.

And I'm sorry you can't dismiss that he's a known cheat. The physical and maybe more important mental advantage of going into a cage knowing you have an ace up your sleeve has to be huge.

I think that prime Fedor would beat Jones. People keep confusing 35 year old Fedor with 25 year old Fedor.

Fedor threw around prime big nog in a way nobody threw around old crap big nog.

That guy that night was at a level of intensity and explosiveness I've never seen in the sport. He was absolutely relentless. Big nog making it to the final bell was a miraculous feat.

Jones probably beats most versions of Fedor, even in his prime. But IMO that guy that night was something I don't think anyone could've handled.

[lilfishi22]

If we're talking picograms and the aforementioned non-performance enhancing benefits for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

[REDDzone]

If we're talking picograms for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

To be fair, shouldn't we draw a distinction between an organization that has banned steroids and an organization that encouraged them?

Technically Fedor could be shooting picograms in his ass in between rounds vs Nog and it wouldn't be cheating.

[RalphWiggum]

If we're talking picograms and the aforementioned non-performance enhancing benefits for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

Picograms are what's left over years after Jones got popped.

He somehow is the only guy who's body can't seem to clear this stuff?

Him being lean and ripped makes it more curious as it's usually heavier pudgier guys like a Fedor that would store residual amounts of any drug.

[RalphWiggum]

If we're talking picograms for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

To be fair, shouldn't we draw a distinction between an organization that has banned steroids and an organization that encouraged them?

Technically Fedor could be shooting picograms in his ass in between rounds vs Nog and it wouldn't be cheating.

He's fought plenty over the last dozen years outside pride, never tested positive for anything.

We can only go on what we know.

WE KNOW JONES CHEATED.

[lilfishi22]

If we're talking picograms for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

To be fair, shouldn't we draw a distinction between an organization that has banned steroids and an organization that encouraged them?

Technically Fedor could be shooting picograms in his ass in between rounds vs Nog and it wouldn't be cheating.

So how do you quantify the level of "mental advantage"? Is it even quantifiable?

[RalphWiggum]

If we're talking picograms for Jones then what are we talking about for Pride fighters?

To be fair, shouldn't we draw a distinction between an organization that has banned steroids and an organization that encouraged them?

Technically Fedor could be shooting picograms in his ass in between rounds vs Nog and it wouldn't be cheating.

So how do you quantify the level of "mental advantage"? Is it even quantifiable?

It's not quantifiable to some exact number and it doesn't have to be. It definitely has to be an advantage mentally, you know you're a better you

[High 5]

So Cain got TKO'd live on ESPN tonight. His chin and knee failed him at the same time 20 seconds into the fight. He said he would retire if he couldn't fight at a high level anymore and you can't ask for clearer evidence than that.