Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

Post #581 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:34 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Its been posted over and over again on here. Roger Huerta who was on the downside of his career, who is the same size as Conor (nowhere close to the striker Conor is) got in a street fight and knocked out a 250-pound Division 1 linebacker.

Yeah, that's impressive. Still 30-40 lbs short though.

That's really the problem though, you run into the limitations of what is even possible at that weight range differential.

Okay but Conor isn't 145 pounds. I agree if 145 pound knocking on death's door Conor tries to fight him, he has no chance. But Conor just fought at 170 pounds earlier this year and walks around at 175-180 pounds. There is the 30-40 pound difference.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #582 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:36 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Could a 145lb man even knock out a 280lb man.

I don't think it's even possible, he can't generate enough force.

Feel free to list the fights that a guy KO'ed another guy that's 135lbs heavier. Because I don't think many of those fights exist. If any.

one swift kick to the head or a choke out can do just that.

Galloisdaman · Post #583 » by **Galloisdaman** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:44 pm

I posted a link to 150 pound Roger Huerta knocking out a former UT linebacker that had 100 pounds on him. 1 punch.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #584 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:49 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:one swift kick to the head or a choke out can do just that.

What I'm saying is, I think when you actually look at the history of documented fights. You don't really find examples.

The bigger the nail is, the bigger the hammer has to be.

Post #585 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:52 pm

Just for a quick side by side.

James Harden Boxing

Read on Twitter

Conor McGregor kicks

Watch on YouTube

Conor's spinning sidekicks and Wheel kicks are faster and more accurate than Harden's straight.

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #586 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 6:56 pm

JayMKE wrote:
Zombiesonics wrote:give six months for zion to camp, then it might be interesting. Right now conor could get him with a sub because of zions lack of knowledge of martial arts. But i mean, at some point 100 pounds is 100 pounds ! guy can just bear hug him

check out the MMA career of Bob Sapp 100lbs don't beat skill!

If the fight with Nogueira happened on concrete Sapp would have killed him.
And Sapp finished Hoost twice on K1.
He was a freakshow but not someone to sleep on in the first few minutes

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Spice Melange · 1/26/20

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Could a 145lb man even knock out a 280lb man.

I don't think it's even possible, he can't generate enough force.

Feel free to list the fights that a guy KO'ed another guy that's 135lbs heavier. Because I don't think many of those fights exist. If any.

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Heres a vid of a 125lb no-name amateur flyweight punching 250lb Ngannou (probably the most feared heavyweight right now) first in the abs and then in the solar plexus area notice how he really felt that second one. This is with a padded glove, while Ngannou was bracing himself and fully aware of the incoming punch.

Now imagine Conor a world class striker punching an athlete with no experience at all in the sport bare fisted. You really think he wouldnt be able to generate enough force to knock out Zion?

Zombiesonics · Post #588 » by **Zombiesonics** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 7:06 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
Zombiesonics wrote:give six months for zion to camp, then it might be interesting. Right now conor could get him with a sub because of zions lack of knowledge of martial arts. But i mean, at some point 100 pounds is 100 pounds ! guy can just bear hug him

check out the MMA career of Bob Sapp 100lbs don't beat skill!
If the fight with Nogueira happened on concrete Sapp would have killed him.
And Sapp finished Hoost twice on K1.
He was a freakshow but not someone to sleep on in the first few minutes

Sent from my SM-N975F using RealGM mobile app

Exactly we are talking about younger bob sapp. in a back alley on concrete with no rules , who the hell is betting on mcgregor?

eminence · Post #589 » by **eminence** » Thu Jul 2, 2020 7:54 pm

Sapp is a horrible mention for anyone supporting McGregor to win this cleanly, with technique you could teach somebody in approximately a week he nearly killed the heavyweight world champion.

Of course Sapp is a giant even compared to Zion, but Nog is of course a wee-bit larger than McGregor.

Pg81 · Post #590 » by **Pg81** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:19 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Its been posted over and over again on here. Roger Huerta who was on the downside of his career, who is the same size as Conor (nowhere close to the striker Conor is) got in a street fight and knocked out a 250-pound Division 1 linebacker.

Yeah, that's impressive. Still 30-40 lbs short though.

That's really the problem though, you run into the limitations of what is even possible at that weight range differential.

All that extra mass does help exactly nothing when your brain gets hammered to mush. Your muscles do nothing to protect your brain.

Zombiesonics wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
check out the MMA career of Bob Sapp 100lbs don't beat skill!
If the fight with Nogueira happened on concrete Sapp would have killed him.
And Sapp finished Hoost twice on K1.
He was a freakshow but not someone to sleep on in the first few minutes

Sent from my SM-N975F using RealGM mobile app

Exactly we are talking about younger bob sapp. in a back alley on concrete with no rules , who the hell is betting on mcgregor?

Anyone with a lick of sense will bet on McGregor, realizing that Zion has no idea about fighting whatsoever. One good punch to the face and he will start swinging wildly like all people who have no idea how to fight. Hell we have no idea if his fight instinct would even kick in, very possible he would run the minute he feels that a punch from a guy like McGregor hurts like hell far more than anything he ever suffered during basketball.

HEKTOR · Post #591 » by **HEKTOR** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:28 am

For those focusing on size - you're forgetting one thing: when you don't know how to fight and you're up against a pro-fighter, you're more or less dead.

Let's say Zion has no idea who Connor is and vice-versa - Zion is in for a big surprise.
Let's say Zion knows who Connor is (like I'm sure he does) you don't think he's going to hesitate and naturally be more defensive?
Most people who are aware that they are up against someone who could do them some serious damage (while sober) will be more concerned about getting hit than anything else. This is understandable but this also allows a pro like Connor to pick their spots and absolutely destroy them.

HEKTOR · Post #592 » by **HEKTOR** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:29 am

Pg81 wrote:Anyone with a lick of sense will bet on McGregor, realizing that Zion has no idea about fighting whatsoever. One good punch to the face and he will start swinging wildly like all people who have no idea how to fight. Hell we have no idea if his fight instinct would even kick in, very possible he would run the minute he feels that a punch from a guy like McGregor hurts like hell far more than anything he ever suffered during basketball.

Correction - one good punch to the face and Zion is asleep.

agkagk · Post #593 » by **agkagk** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:32 am

I bet prime ronda rousey could knock out zion lolz not even sure if I’m joking or not

chefy · Post #594 » by **chefy** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 3:38 am

next thread...

5 pitbulls vs 1 adult male lion?

Packbuckman · Post #595 » by **Packbuckman** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:12 am

chefy wrote:next thread...

5 pitbulls vs 1 adult male lion?

Lion easily

playoffs · Post #596 » by **playoffs** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:23 am

Lol thinking that Zion could knock out CM in a fight because he's bigger is equivalent to thinking Usain Bolt would beat CP3 1-on-1 in basketball because he's taller. Skill matters.

Myth · Post #597 » by **Myth** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:54 am

This is like asking who wins a basketball game: Prime Mugsy Bogues or 4 time Olympian Michael Phelps. Sometimes athleticism and size aren't enough to overcome skill, even in a sport when athleticism and size are an advantage.

Myth · Post #598 » by **Myth** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:57 am

chefy wrote:next thread...

5 pitbulls vs 1 adult male lion?

Just to clarify, we are talking about the rapper, correct?

HEAT33 · Post #599 » by **HEAT33** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 4:59 am

Bob Sapp was a monster, strong as an ox with limited fighting skill and was a trained fighter, anytime he went up against a half way world class fighter he got embarrassed

Watch on YouTube

Post #600 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Fri Jul 3, 2020 6:45 am

Jabroni Lames wrote:lol. People have no clue here. They don't understand that MMA fighters are trained to go after weak body spots: like joints, the neck, kidneys, etc.... That's independent of body type. No amount of bulk will help when McGregor attacks those areas and Zion is down on the ground writhing in pain. And McGregor is literally one of the best in the world at his craft.

This thread is silly, tbh. I mean, McGregor put up a much better than expected showing against Floyd Mayweather... the greatest fighter in the post-Ali era.

Honestly, way worse fighters than Conor would **** Zion up.

Bjj brown belts could literally butt scoot and knee bar Zion as soon as he gets anywhere close.

Who wins the fight? Zion or McGregor