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Dry_Fish wrote:I have to say that no fighter gets as much respect as Hopkins does for his current work rate. When he hold or leads with his head, it's tactical. When he fakes a low blows, it's cunning. There are too many things I don't understand.
I agree with you for the most part... I do respect him more so due to his eliteness at his age.
I am not quite sure if it was fake...I have boxed before and getting hit there is no joke when with padding and cups.
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Dieselbound&Down wrote:That would be something to see. It would be great to have a big fight over there and good for Calzaghe before he slows down too noticeably.
I was in awe that 50K showed up at what 3 in the morning to see the Calzaghe/Kessler fight.
I think that Calzaghe would win by UD, but I think Jones would have a good chance to get a KO. The last thing to go for any fight is their power and Jones still have his unbelievable boxing IQ to accent his quickness. Hopkins as good as he was just doesn't have the lateral mobility and handspeed that Jones has. He would also be the bigger fighter compared to Calzaghe.
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De La Hoya: "I Want Miguel Cotto in December"
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Earlier this year, Oscar De La Hoya said that he would fight three times in 2008 and then retire from the sport to fully focus on his successful company, Golden Boy Promotions. He returns next week in Carson, California to face Steve Forbes, and if successful he will rematch Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September. If he gets by Mayweather, he says that a December fight with WBA welterweight champion Miguel Cotto is the one he wants to end his career.
In the past De La Hoya claimed to have made a promise to his wife (a popular Puerto Rican singer) that he would never fight another Puerto Rican fighter again. Something, possibly the money involved in such a fight, has changed his mind.
"If I beat Mayweather, who is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, my following fight has to be with one of the best and it's no secret that Miguel Cotto is one of the best in the world," De La Hoya said. "He has a difficult fight with Antonio Margarito (July 26) and although any thing can happen, we all know that Miguel Cotto is going to win.
De La Hoya ruled out a possible rematch with Felix Trinidad because the Puerto Rican fighter because the weight difference is too much. Trinidad is currently campaigning at light heavyweight. He says a fight with Cotto is not necessary, but he can
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Cotto-Margarito West Bound, Vegas Caves In
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As reported a few days ago by Steve Kim of MaxBoxing, the Nevada State Athletic Commission agreed to meet with promoter Bob Arum to discuss the state's glove rule. In Nevada, fighters 135-pounds and above must wear 10-ounce gloves. In every other corner of the United States, fighters wear 8-ounce gloves up until 147-pounds, with 10-ounce gloves being worn by all fighters above the welterweight limit.
Kim reports that on Thursday, Arum met with the Nevada State Athletic Commission and they agreed to amend their glove rule, which places Las Vegas at the head of the pack to land the the July 26 showdown between welterweight champions Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito.
"They agreed that if both fighters agree, they can fight in 8-ounce gloves," a satisfied Arum would tell Maxboxing. "They're going to keep the 10-ounce rule temporarily, but if both fighters agree, they'll fight in 8-ounce gloves. So that opens up Las Vegas as a possible site for the fight."
The two possible locations to land the fight have been New York's Madison Square Garden and the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City. Las Vegas was previously out of the running because both fighters refused to wear 10-ounce gloves. Arum is scheduled to speak with the camps of Cotto and Margarito to discuss the fight possibly coming to a Las Vegas venue. Because of the hype already building for the fight and the opportunity for Cotto to headline a major show in Las Vegas, most insiders expect the fight to land on the West Coast.
Well they are changing the glove weight... Las Vegas changed the rule after the tragic death of Leavander Johnson vs Jesus Chavez.
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I agree with you for the most part... I do respect him more so due to his eliteness at his age.
I am not quite sure if it was fake...I have boxed before and getting hit there is no joke when with padding and cups.
I finally watched that fight last night. Definitely thought Hopkins took more time than should be expected for an incidental, partially blocked shot from a person falling forward off balance. And Hopkins came out so much stronger after the rest that it just seemed he needed the extra wind.
OT - I saw David Diaz earlier this week at a White Sox game. He is the next Pacman opponent and the lightweight champ. It will be interesting to see how Pacquiao does as he moves up weight classes and finds fighters more able to take his power. Here's a good article on the matchup.
http://ringsidereport.com/rsr/news.php?readmore=525
And I'm not surprised how well Oscar's tickets are selling. It looks like it will be his last fight in LA and Oscar is a great self-promoter heading into likely the last couple fights of his career.
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The Current State of Boxing
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Today is a day where the sport I love is being watered down. I see fighters being sacrificed on the altar of HYPE. Last year, [Jose Armando] Santa Cruz was robbed against [Joel] Casamayor, because for whatever reason he wasn't marketable or popular enough. This has become so common in boxing and then afterwards it's forgotten. Truth be told, it is killing the sport and making people turn away. Boxing used to be the number one sport. Now it is just a shell of its former self.
A lot of people are bigger fans of the actual boxers, so they forget about being fans of "BOXING." I watched two of my friends fight two weeks ago, Glen Johnson vs. Chad Dawson, and when the judges' scores were read, my fianc
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Dieselbound&Down wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I finally watched that fight last night. Definitely thought Hopkins took more time than should be expected for an incidental, partially blocked shot from a person falling forward off balance. And Hopkins came out so much stronger after the rest that it just seemed he needed the extra wind.
OT - I saw David Diaz earlier this week at a White Sox game. He is the next Pacman opponent and the lightweight champ. It will be interesting to see how Pacquiao does as he moves up weight classes and finds fighters more able to take his power. Here's a good article on the matchup.
http://ringsidereport.com/rsr/news.php?readmore=525
And I'm not surprised how well Oscar's tickets are selling. It looks like it will be his last fight in LA and Oscar is a great self-promoter heading into likely the last couple fights of his career.
I want Pacman to win... I am not a fan of Diaz. I honestly thought he lost to a way out of his prime Morales. His face was all busted up. I hope this somehow ends up being on WCB but I am sure it is going to be PPV.
Oh well my prediction for the fight on Sat... Oscar KO 3rd round.
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David Haye And Wladimir Klitschko:Head To Head
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Haye is annoying don't you think?
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Haye is annoying don't you think?
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Blame Rasho wrote:David Haye And Wladimir Klitschko:Head To Head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Augzo8MgqrY
Haye is annoying don't you think?
When did Haye beat Holyfield?
Klitschko should unify the other belts instead of facing Haye or Thompson.
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I don't mind Hayes that much. Generally I don't care for it but the HW division needs it. No knock on the foreign (non-english speaking countries) heavies but a bashful boxer from an English base country could do a lot for boxing. The money and population is in the U.S. It's really sad to see the HW in the state it's in right now. I blame Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates.
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Dry_Fish wrote:I don't mind Hayes that much. Generally I don't care for it but the HW division needs it. No knock on the foreign (non-english speaking countries) heavies but a bashful boxer from an English base country could do a lot for boxing. The money and population is in the U.S. It's really sad to see the HW in the state it's in right now. I blame Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates.
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I agree with you... I am not a big fan of Haye but boxing in general goes up and down with the heavyweight division.
Just think of Ron Artest as a boxer... jeez. His dad was a Golden Gloves boxer
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Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I agree with you... I am not a big fan of Haye but boxing in general goes up and down with the heavyweight division.
Just think of Ron Artest as a boxer... jeez. His dad was a Golden Gloves boxer
I think Ron Artest is the greatest heavyweight boxer who never became a boxer. He'd unify the belts in a post-Lewis era.
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Blame Rasho wrote:Big News....According to promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank, talks have already begun for a potential meeting between WBC/WBO middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and WBC/WBO/WBA super middleweight champ Joe Calzaghe, who decisioned light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins last month.
I would love to see that. I'd be going for Pavlik. Hopefully it takes place.
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