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Strikeforce: Houston 

Post#1 » by Posey H8er » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:06 am

Didn't see a thread for this. Main event is starting right now with King Mo and Rafael Cavalcante.
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Post#2 » by spykelee » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:09 am

Wow!!!!! Awesome finish to the main event. After the 2nd round I didn't see that one coming... Great fight!
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Post#3 » by SDM » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:18 am

King Mo train has derailed.
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Post#4 » by Cammo101 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:44 am

For the third straight event, Strikeforce's retardedly one sided marketing bites them in the butt. Hendo got all the press, Shields won and bailed. Fedor got all the press, Wedum beats him in a minute. King Mo and Lashley get beat, Strikeforce fans (if that even exists) have no idea who the two guys who beat them are.

Strikeforce has a lot of things going against them being a legit MMA power, and the biggest thing is their desire to pimp only 4 or 5 fighters. Go watch the Bones Jones vs. Matyushenko promo and then the most recent Strikeforce one. It is night and day. One makes a clearly uneven fight look like a coin flip, the other makes King Mo look like the Terminator and does not even bother explaining who his opponent is.
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Post#5 » by REDDzone » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:13 am

I am absolutely shocked at how Mo just fights with his hands down all the time.
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Post#6 » by High 5 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:23 pm

UGH, I HATE STRIKEFORCE!

But seriously, I didn't have the slightest clue this was happening last night.
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Post#7 » by Banco » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:07 pm

Cammo101 wrote:For the third straight event, Strikeforce's retardedly one sided marketing bites them in the butt. Hendo got all the press, Shields won and bailed. Fedor got all the press, Wedum beats him in a minute. King Mo and Lashley get beat, Strikeforce fans (if that even exists) have no idea who the two guys who beat them are.

Strikeforce has a lot of things going against them being a legit MMA power, and the biggest thing is their desire to pimp only 4 or 5 fighters. Go watch the Bones Jones vs. Matyushenko promo and then the most recent Strikeforce one. It is night and day. One makes a clearly uneven fight look like a coin flip, the other makes King Mo look like the Terminator and does not even bother explaining who his opponent is.


Yep, funny thing is every fighter they have that they have promoted heavily is coming off of a loss in their last fight. The only promoted fighter they have left with no losses is Herschel Walker lol
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Post#8 » by damo[23] » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:59 pm

Strikeforce could be a power if they were more professional and more organised.

As cammo says, they just pimp the wrong people, and more importantly, dont pimp their own shows. High 5 - a big MMA fan didnt know the event was on, I didnt realise till a few days out.

Tell me when the next strikeforce even is, or who is the co-headliner. Its hard, they dont annouce events properly till a few weeks out, yet the UFC has up to 123 already in the works - we've only just had 117!.

Its a organisation that has a ton of potential, but I said that a year ago, and in my eyes they've only gotten worse, for some of the exact reasons cammo said above.
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Post#9 » by skflives » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:18 pm

damo[23] wrote:Strikeforce could be a power if they were more professional and more organised.

As cammo says, they just pimp the wrong people, and more importantly, dont pimp their own shows. High 5 - a big MMA fan didnt know the event was on, I didnt realise till a few days out.

Tell me when the next strikeforce even is, or who is the co-headliner. Its hard, they dont annouce events properly till a few weeks out, yet the UFC has up to 123 already in the works - we've only just had 117!.

Its a organisation that has a ton of potential, but I said that a year ago, and in my eyes they've only gotten worse, for some of the exact reasons cammo said above.


I missed the event. I had went out and remembered to record the replay of Thursday's Bellator event but completely forgot to record Strikeforce. :oops: But I have heard what happened and wow. Strikeforce may not have suffered a Affliction type catastrophe but they are reeling. Their meal ticket gets reckless and loses. They $hit all over Jake Shields in the run up to his fight with Dan Henderson only to let him walk to the UFC AFTER he dominates Hendo. Then you have that embarrassing beatdown featuring 2 of their champions and a bunch of hangers on giving Jason Miller a Bully Beat down on CBS. King Mo dominates their first Light Heavyweight Golden boy only to get stopped in his first defense. Bobby Lashley gets taken out in a stretcher when the tomato can army gets its revenge. At least now we won't see a Bobby Lashley vs. Dave Bautista PPV fight. Or maybe now that he got his butt kicked its more likely. :roll: I really like Strikeforce but they are such a poorly run organization. Lashley should have been exposed against someone with a name and who is actually capable of doing something in the division.
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Post#10 » by Headliner » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:30 am

I don't like Lashley but what the hell was that? The ref stood him up twice, and one time he was in FULL MOUNT. He was throwing punches, and stopped for like 10 seconds, throw another one and got stood up and beat because of it.

That was HORRIBLE, and again, i'm not a Lashley fan, nor do I think he's going to be anything, but that was terrible reffing.
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Post#11 » by Posey H8er » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:14 am

Cammo101 wrote:Go watch the Bones Jones vs. Matyushenko promo and then the most recent Strikeforce one. It is night and day. One makes a clearly uneven fight look like a coin flip, the other makes King Mo look like the Terminator and does not even bother explaining who his opponent is.

I still think it was pretty cool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tonZVCB38[/youtube]

Sometimes I get annoyed by the UFC's gladiator/death metal intros.
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Post#12 » by CPT » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:50 am

Posey H8er wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Go watch the Bones Jones vs. Matyushenko promo and then the most recent Strikeforce one. It is night and day. One makes a clearly uneven fight look like a coin flip, the other makes King Mo look like the Terminator and does not even bother explaining who his opponent is.

I still think it was pretty cool.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tonZVCB38[/youtube]

Sometimes I get annoyed by the UFC's gladiator/death metal intros.


If I'd have seen that a week or two ago, I may have given a **** about this event.
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Post#13 » by SDM » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:58 pm

Cavalcante looked really good. Watch him lose to Mousasi and further denigrate their titles. I loved Kennedy's slam at the end of the fight. It's a shame that he felt Jacare's power and wanted none of it and tried to dance around him.
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Post#14 » by SDM » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:01 pm

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damo[23] wrote:Strikeforce could be a power if they were more professional and more organised.

As cammo says, they just pimp the wrong people, and more importantly, dont pimp their own shows. High 5 - a big MMA fan didnt know the event was on, I didnt realise till a few days out.

Tell me when the next strikeforce even is, or who is the co-headliner. Its hard, they dont annouce events properly till a few weeks out, yet the UFC has up to 123 already in the works - we've only just had 117!.

Its a organisation that has a ton of potential, but I said that a year ago, and in my eyes they've only gotten worse, for some of the exact reasons cammo said above.


I missed the event. I had went out and remembered to record the replay of Thursday's Bellator event but completely forgot to record Strikeforce. :oops: But I have heard what happened and wow. Strikeforce may not have suffered a Affliction type catastrophe but they are reeling. Their meal ticket gets reckless and loses. They $hit all over Jake Shields in the run up to his fight with Dan Henderson only to let him walk to the UFC AFTER he dominates Hendo. Then you have that embarrassing beatdown featuring 2 of their champions and a bunch of hangers on giving Jason Miller a Bully Beat down on CBS. King Mo dominates their first Light Heavyweight Golden boy only to get stopped in his first defense. Bobby Lashley gets taken out in a stretcher when the tomato can army gets its revenge. At least now we won't see a Bobby Lashley vs. Dave Bautista PPV fight. Or maybe now that he got his butt kicked its more likely. :roll: I really like Strikeforce but they are such a poorly run organization. Lashley should have been exposed against someone with a name and who is actually capable of doing something in the division.


Lashley's handling was bungled. If they weren't sure where he'd stand, put up a similar guy you're unsure about against him, not a can. I don't know if this boosts Griggs' stock or if anyone will even care now. Huge missed opportunity, which might have been caused by Lashley picking opponents (did he?).
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Re: Strikeforce: Houston 

Post#15 » by Cammo101 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:16 pm

SDM wrote:Lashley's handling was bungled. If they weren't sure where he'd stand, put up a similar guy you're unsure about against him, not a can. I don't know if this boosts Griggs' stock or if anyone will even care now. Huge missed opportunity, which might have been caused by Lashley picking opponents (did he?).


They should have fed him to Del Rosario like everyone has talked about. But, they were trying so hard to make Lashley their Kimbo that they fed him cans, and like Kimbo, he lost to one.
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Re: Strikeforce: Houston 

Post#16 » by cowboyronnie » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:34 pm

A lot of boring fighters. Why am I watching grapplers box? The sport gets stupid sometimes. 25 minutes of Tim Kennedy and Jacare boxing? King Mo and whatshisface too? Gurgel? This is stupid.

Not to mention the bodybuilder fighting.

None of these fighters are explosive like we saw in the WEC last week. These are musclebound dudes fighting in off-sports at an amateur level.
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Post#17 » by Shaazzam » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:35 pm

Is there some issue with Noons and Lawal using canned oxygen?
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Post#18 » by damo[23] » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:37 pm

That wasnt a bad intro - but why the hell is it 2 days AFTER the event I am seeing it for the first time?

Not to keep comparing to the UFC, but typically before the event I've seen the same sort of 1 minute intro (not nearly as well produced as that strikeforce one, but with cool snippets from Dana / Joe rogan to build hype) - the 10 minute preview (which always goes out on youtube) and then the 30min+ proper countdown show. I dont think I've missed these, at least had the option of watching and sometimes choose not to.

Throw in video blogging and the whole social media aspect now - its very hard to miss.

Yes kos calling out GSP over twitter is childish, but it damn well reminds me they are fighting. Strikeforce fighters need to take it into their own hands to hype their own fights now - dont leave it to Coker and SF.
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Post#19 » by Cammo101 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:03 am

So basically, the problem with Strikeforce is their advertising sucks, their matchmaking sucks, and they have no depth of talent?
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Re: Strikeforce: Houston 

Post#20 » by Nemesis21 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:33 am

3 things on this card,

1) I think KJ should have been DQ'd, yeah I know he hurt Gurgel and looked back at the ref, and I know you are supposed to continue fighting till the refs stops, but he did knee a downed opponent just before the ref came in.

2) Kennedy/Jacare I scored a draw, very close in the stand up. Jacare was landing the heavier and more damaging strikes. Kennedy was 2/3 take downs, Jacare 0/4 .

3) Hope King Mo learns to keep his hands up, the first strike that hurt him early in rd 3 was because his hands were down.

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