OT: Floyd Mayweather sucker punches Victor Ortiz

[8Caldey8]

Did anyone see this fight. Mayweather sucker punches Ortiz, when Ortiz was touching gloves and apologizing. It was ridiculous. KP with a loojy

here it is...[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsoMbR6Hgac[/youtube]

[DG88]

Protect yourself at all times that's something Ortiz forgot about. Also Cortez said time in so the fight was on.

[no dice]

mayweather is still hurting from what cj watson did to him hah.

[Boogie!]

lol dude wtf happened. mayweather's such a clown... dude starts yelling at merchant because he's trying to get to the bottom of what happened from mayweather's perspective and he starts complaining about not getting a fair shake? what a goof. also, lol at him saying "i would kick your ass if i was 50 years younger." man i was not expecting that outcome at all. anyway, that was a joke... wtf kind of cheap ass knockout was that? wow, epic fail.

[tontonpoulet]

Before the fight even started. Ortiz's camp was talking with the ref back in the locker room & was b---tching about how Mayweather throws illegal elbows. Telling the ref he has to watch out for it. Then the guy came in with a nasty headbutt. If Mayweather had gone down from that, you probably woulda said that it was nothing. You probably called him a wimp and said that he embellished the hit.

The ref said the fight was back on. They touched gloves. Ortiz wanted to keep kissing Mayweather. He got hit once, expecting the ref to step in between them. Got hit a second time and went down. Ortiz shoulda brought his guard up after the first punch. Anyone saying it was a cheapshot is partial.

When you check out the replay, that headbutt coulda got him DQ'ed. He went all in with it. He fought dirty. Look at the whole series of events before u start coming down on Mayweather.

[Boogie!]

Before the fight even started. Ortiz's camp was talking with the ref back in the locker room & was b---tching about how Mayweather throws illegal elbows. Telling the ref he has to watch out for it. Then the guy came in with a nasty headbutt. If Mayweather had gone down from that, you probably woulda said that it was nothing. You probably called him a wimp and said that he embellished the hit.

The ref said the fight was back on. They touched gloves. Ortiz wanted to keep kissing Mayweather. He got hit once, expecting the ref to step in between them. Got hit a second time and went down. Ortiz shoulda brought his guard up after the first punch. Anyone saying it was a cheapshot is partial.

When you check out the replay, that headbutt coulda got him DQ'ed. He went all in with it. He fought dirty. Look at the whole series of events before u start coming down on Mayweather.

the point is he ended the fight on a cheap shot. who cares if ortiz was an idiot. the headbutt didn't knock mayweather out, he was clearly fine. and so what if he could've been hypothetically dq'd, that has no relevance to what happened. there was no need for that - mayweather probably would've won in any scenario. but no matter which way you slice it, mayweather comes out looking like a punk. if ortiz had done that to mayweather, i would've said the same thing about ortiz. lame end to the fight and mayweather knew it - look at how defensive he got in the interview.

[tontonpoulet]

lol dude wtf happened. mayweather's such a clown... dude starts yelling at merchant because he's trying to get to the bottom of what happened from mayweather's perspective and he starts complaining about not getting a fair shake? what a goof. also, lol at him saying "i would kick your ass if i was 50 years younger." man i was not expecting that outcome at all. anyway, that was a joke... wtf kind of cheap ass knockout was that? wow, epic fail.

Merchant is EXTREMELY biased. I won't go any further than that. He's had a history with Mayweather. I've seen him constantly have issues with Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and Zab Judah. He even drew the ire of George Foreman. With Floyd, it's not the 1st time they go at each other. In this particular case, Merchant takes sides and immediately starts accusing him of throwing a cheap shot. Floyd explains his side of the story but the thing is Merchant keeps going at him. Floyd, being the loudmouth that he is gets mad. Merchant gets a reaction out of him.

Before the De La Hoya - Mayweather fight, he said "If I was a gambler, I'd put my money on Floyd. But I wouldn't be mad if I lost my money."

It's not the 1st time these two go at it. I've seen Merchant do it with others and he'll do it again.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaN3kH-99eo[/youtube]

[tontonpoulet]

Before the fight even started. Ortiz's camp was talking with the ref back in the locker room & was b---tching about how Mayweather throws illegal elbows. Telling the ref he has to watch out for it. Then the guy came in with a nasty headbutt. If Mayweather had gone down from that, you probably woulda said that it was nothing. You probably called him a wimp and said that he embellished the hit.

The ref said the fight was back on. They touched gloves. Ortiz wanted to keep kissing Mayweather. He got hit once, expecting the ref to step in between them. Got hit a second time and went down. Ortiz shoulda brought his guard up after the first punch. Anyone saying it was a cheapshot is partial.

When you check out the replay, that headbutt coulda got him DQ'ed. He went all in with it. He fought dirty. Look at the whole series of events before u start coming down on Mayweather.

the point is he ended the fight on a cheap shot. who cares if ortiz was an idiot. the headbutt didn't knock mayweather out, he was clearly fine. and so what if he could've been hypothetically dq'd, that has no relevance to what happened. there was no need for that - mayweather probably would've won in any scenario. but no matter which way you slice it, mayweather comes out looking like a punk. if ortiz had done that to mayweather, i would've said the same thing about ortiz. lame end to the fight and mayweather knew it - look at how defensive he got in the interview.

Look, I've done some amateur boxing. My brother has trained with Otis Grant who's fought Roy Jones Jr. I'm saying this to let you know. Don't take headbutts lightly. There're 2 things you don't do in boxing. Low blow and headbutts. They're illegal for a reason. As soon I saw that happen I knew Floyd would get angry. Usually there are accidental headbutts in boxing and boxers like to claim innocence and say that it wasn't intentional and that their style of boxing causes it. But watch the replay and you'll see that Ortiz went all in.

And your excuse that the headbutt didn't knock out mayweather is irrelevant and lame. The thing is, it could've knocked him out. Because it didn't, Ortiz comes out looking like he didn't do nothing. Floyd hits the guy, he gets knocked out from it and Floyd ends up looking bad. Your perception of the fight woulda changed if Ortiz didn't stay there looking like a pinada.

[MLSE]

lol @ someone for defending Floyd by saying headbutts are wrong.

Isn't that why they stopped the fight?

The penalty for a headbutt isn't two sucker punches in the face.

edit: Waiting for a Floyd fan to say the fight was on like that mattered. That ref's head is in the clouds by the way.

Sure the fight was on and sure you can punch him in the head but a true and honest man would never stoop that low. So if you want to do that, you have to understand why people wouldn't like it because it's cheap as hell.

[Hypz]

That's the most anti-climatic and stupid ending to a fight I have ever seen. I'd be pretty pissed if I paid $50 to HBO PPV for that. Mayweather's fights are a borefest anyway. Let me guess, they're going to have a re-match in a few months. Nobody will remember him 10 years after he retired.

Larry Merchant is awesome.

[Boogie!]

Before the fight even started. Ortiz's camp was talking with the ref back in the locker room & was b---tching about how Mayweather throws illegal elbows. Telling the ref he has to watch out for it. Then the guy came in with a nasty headbutt. If Mayweather had gone down from that, you probably woulda said that it was nothing. You probably called him a wimp and said that he embellished the hit.

The ref said the fight was back on. They touched gloves. Ortiz wanted to keep kissing Mayweather. He got hit once, expecting the ref to step in between them. Got hit a second time and went down. Ortiz shoulda brought his guard up after the first punch. Anyone saying it was a cheapshot is partial.

When you check out the replay, that headbutt coulda got him DQ'ed. He went all in with it. He fought dirty. Look at the whole series of events before u start coming down on Mayweather.

the point is he ended the fight on a cheap shot. who cares if ortiz was an idiot. the headbutt didn't knock mayweather out, he was clearly fine. and so what if he could've been hypothetically dq'd, that has no relevance to what happened. there was no need for that - mayweather probably would've won in any scenario. but no matter which way you slice it, mayweather comes out looking like a punk. if ortiz had done that to mayweather, i would've said the same thing about ortiz. lame end to the fight and mayweather knew it - look at how defensive he got in the interview.

Look, I've done some amateur boxing. My brother has trained with Otis Grant who's fought Roy Jones Jr. I'm saying this to let you know. Don't take headbutts lightly. There're 2 things you don't do in boxing. Low blow and headbutts. They're illegal for a reason. As soon I saw that happen I knew Floyd would get angry. Usually there are accidental headbutts in boxing and boxers like to claim innocence and say that it wasn't intentional and that their style of boxing causes it. But watch the replay and you'll see that Ortiz went all in.

And your excuse that the headbutt didn't knock out mayweather is irrelevant and lame. The thing is, it could've knocked him out. Because it didn't, Ortiz comes out looking like he didn't do nothing. Floyd hits the guy, he gets knocked out from it and Floyd ends up looking bad. Your perception of the fight woulda changed if Ortiz didn't stay there looking like a pinada.

why do you keep bringing up headbutts? you're completely missing the point. no one is discrediting the headbutt. ortiz didn't get away with the headbutt. fight was stopped, headbutt was acknowledged, points were deducted. that's how you deal with illegal activity in boxing. it's happened MANY TIMES before and not every recipient has gone on to sucker his opponent to a ko victory. mayweather **** up, plain and simple. i don't care how much of a fan you are, if you can't even admit that what he did was cheap, then you're the one being biased. like i said, mayweather probably would have won that fight anyway, so to have it end that way was just embarassing.

[bigdirty]

That was a brilliant move by Mayweather. You don't box to make friends. You box to win the match! Mayweather had a legal opening and took it. It sucks for the fans but it was a great move by Floyd.

btw- this kind of thing has happened in MMA for a long time.

[Neutral 123]

That was a brilliant move by Mayweather. You don't box to make friends. You box to win the match! Mayweather had a legal opening and took it. It sucks for the fans but it was a great move by Floyd.

btw- this kind of thing has happened in MMA for a long time.

LOL, exactly, I don't know what people are whining about. Ortiz just lost his head. He was finally putting something together then he goes and headbutts Floyd. He then hugs and kisses him, he touches gloves with him a bit later, and even after the ref CLEARLY called time in, he's still looking to continue his love fest with Floyd? This guy obviously wasn't ready for this type of spotlight. He absolutely broke down mentally under the pressure.

[5DOM]

Yeah, tell me why what Floyd did is wrong...
These guys are pros.

[ronleroy]

ortiz drop his guard after the bell already rung, he turned away and look at the ref.

[Carnage]

why do you keep bringing up headbutts? you're completely missing the point. no one is discrediting the headbutt. ortiz didn't get away with the headbutt. fight was stopped, headbutt was acknowledged, points were deducted. that's how you deal with illegal activity in boxing. it's happened MANY TIMES before and not every recipient has gone on to sucker his opponent to a ko victory. mayweather **** up, plain and simple. i don't care how much of a fan you are, if you can't even admit that what he did was cheap, then you're the one being biased. like i said, mayweather probably would have won that fight anyway, so to have it end that way was just embarassing.

You clearly have a bias against mayweather and are using ortiz's error in judgment to pin something else on Mayweather. Ortiz didn't headbutt him once, he headbutted him multiple times during the fight, even multiple times in that round, the last of which was solely intentional. The ref should've docked points earlier and if so, could've disqualified ortiz after that intentional headbutt. Now onto the punch, the ref separates them, they touch gloves, ortiz apologizes, then the ref calls the fight back on and ortiz goes to apologize again...What the ****? he got everything he deserved. This is boxing, you must protect yourself at all times, hell even mma has that same rule. Furthermore, after the first punch, Ortiz could've put his hands up but didn't, it seemed he was content having the fight over because he couldn't do anything against Mayweather.

Anyone thats ever watched boxing knows Mayweather did nothing wrong, even the biased HBO broadcasters in jim lampley and larry merchant (retire already!!) called it legal right away.

Those that watched the fight and argue that was a cheap shot, are doing so only because Ortiz is the fighter that hit the canvas and not Floyd, and need something else to fuel their hate against Mayweather. Take your biases aside, and you will discover that ortiz never stood a chance, was easily losing the fight and then had a monumental mistake that puts into question whether he should really be a fighter. IMO, this should have no effect on mayweather's legacy.

[Lawnmower Man]

What Floyd did was NOT illegal. But, what he did was the act of an opportunist, and lacks honour.

There are unspoken rules to every sport, and the fact that he felt the need to be an opportunist and pounce Ortiz when Ortiz did not have his gloves up yet, shows his type of character.

The people on this thread defending him probably have the same spineless, opportunist character as well. It's just who they are as a person, and you can't show them otherwise.

[carl_english]

Tito let down his guard and payed for it.

[Neutral 123]

What Floyd did was NOT illegal. But, what he did was the act of an opportunist, and lacks honour.

There are unspoken rules to every sport, and the fact that he felt the need to be an opportunist and pounce Ortiz when Ortiz did not have his gloves up yet, shows his type of character.

The people on this thread defending him probably have the same spineless, opportunist character as well. It's just who they are as a person, and you can't show them otherwise.

Ortiz was more interested in seducing Money May than actually boxing. The hugs, the kisses, give me a break. Ortiz lost his head and paid for it. He was clearly told to fight, and for whatever reason wanting to keep on trying to make out with Floyd. The only lack of honor showed was that dirty headbutt and Ortiz embarrassing himself, the sport and his family by refusing to fight.

[Carnage]

What Floyd did was NOT illegal. But, what he did was the act of an opportunist, and lacks honour.

There are unspoken rules to every sport, and the fact that he felt the need to be an opportunist and pounce Ortiz when Ortiz did not have his gloves up yet, shows his type of character.

The people on this thread defending him probably have the same spineless, opportunist character as well. It's just who they are as a person, and you can't show them otherwise.

Ortiz was more interested in seducing Money May than actually boxing. The hugs, the kisses, give me a break. Ortiz lost his head and paid for it. He was clearly told to fight, and for whatever reason wanting to keep on trying to make out with Floyd. The only lack of honor showed was that dirty headbutt and Ortiz embarrassing himself, the sport and his family by refusing to fight.

I totally agree. How many times is Mayweather supposed to accept his apology? He accepted it three times even after the ref called the fight back on. Rules are rules and they are in place for a reason, now if one party decides that they don't want to follow the rules (headbutting, constant apologizing after fight is called back on), who's really to blame?

I feel that those that call Mayweather spineless and cowardly are cowards themselves. Notice that the only people that call him out are those that would never get in the ring with him? None of his opponents say anything but praise for mayweather, even ortiz didn't have anything to say.