Bellator 85: Pitbull vs Curran, Hawn vs Chandler (Jan. 17th)

Bernman · Post #1 » by **Bernman** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:48 pm

Time: 10 EST/9 Cent, Live on Pacific Coast on Satellite, Tape Delayed on Cable
Channel: Spike (Bellator's debut)

Card:

Michael Chandler vs. Rick Hawn
Patricio Freire vs. Pat Curran
Babalu Sobral vs. Mikhail Zayats (LHW Quarter)
Emanuel Newton vs. Atanas Djamabazov (LHW Quarter)
Carlos Eduardo vs. Seth Petruzelli (LHW Quarter)
Hector Ramirez vs. Jason Lambert
Michael Guymon vs. Savant Young
J.J. Ambrose vs. Brian Warren
Joe Williams vs. Jamie Yager
Cleber Luciano vs. Mario Navarro
Aaron Miller vs. Joe Camacho

SDM · Post #2 » by **SDM** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:49 pm

I thought Guymon retired?

skflives · Post #3 » by **skflives** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:39 pm

I wonder/hope they air prelims on MTV2. I think that would be cool as hell.

Bernman · Post #4 » by **Bernman** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:52 pm

skflives wrote:I wonder/hope they air prelims on MTV2. I think that would be cool as hell.

I don't think they are at enough quality yet to justify that. That works for UFC because they have deep cards. And to a lesser extent for SF as well, who holds cards occasionally, and have been freer spenders. Bellator has frequent cards and they've been relatively conservative about their payroll allocation. They save their money for their main cards/tournaments/championships. Maybe next season or a year or so when Bellator has become more popular from Spike. It doesn't have to be on MTV2 either. Viacom has a lot of channels, some smaller than that. They could put it on their version of Fuel, whatever that may be. For now one figures it'll be still on Spike.com.

Post #5 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:56 pm

Looking forward to the Renato Sobral fight. I doubt he will ever be invited back to the UFC, but his record is pretty impressive and it's been awhile since I have seen him.

Bernman · Post #6 » by **Bernman** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:31 am

Card is complete. Main card is only 3 fights because of the titles. I don't agree with the decision. A main card should be 4 fights minimum, especially if we're talking a debut. I remember them bandying about the idea of 6 fight main cards. That sure went by the wayside. Maybe it will return when they're not on so late out east.

This card is great at the top, but not very deep. They kind of set this tournament up for a Mo-Babalu final, with Mo pushing through.

Post #7 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 pm

This is getting pushed pretty hard on RealGM.

I'm surprised by all the advertising here.

Gold Chain · Post #8 » by **Gold Chain** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:13 pm

Consider me a fan of MMA cards on Thurs night.

Kevin Kay says they are going to go hard for this debut, I'm interested to see the changes.

Chandler should be a star, and will be if marketed right by Bellator and Spike.

Gold Chain · Post #9 » by **Gold Chain** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:31 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqnTnsNH3Fg[/youtube]

Bernman · Post #10 » by **Bernman** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:19 pm

I've seen the ads all over the place, and they're strong, but it takes a lot of time to seep into the average person's consciousness about something which hasn't already gained their interest. They forgot about it as soon as the commercial was over. At this point I think what benefit it does have is to remind die hards who like any decent MMA and people who have watched in the past to tune in tonight. X-Factor viewers for this debut will be gained or lost depending on if the action and production is good as they're flipping thru the channels. As far as gaining name recognition among casuals and the general public, that is not going to be seen for at least around a year, if it does ever happen.

I got Freire over Curran and Chandler over Hawn. Chandler will use his speed, and Hawn will be a beat slow on the counter-punches. Freire will do the same the same against Curran.

Hopefully they put a 4th fight on the main card. 3 fights is too thin for a 2+ hour telecast, even if the title fights go 5. Not enough diversity and action. Petruzelli-Noe weighed in after Jimmy Smith said, "and now for the televised portion of the card". I don't particularly care which fight they'd add.

REDDzone · Post #11 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:22 pm

I think the bellator ads during the fox commercials could really pay off for them. Hardcore fans don't see the ufc as their everything, and if there are any ultra brand new people seeing these ads as their mma interest picks up steam, that could be the case for them as well.

ShowtimeFan · Post #12 » by **ShowtimeFan** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:21 pm

Bernman wrote:Time: 10 EST/9 Cent, Live on Pacific Coast on Satellite, Tape Delayed on Cable
Channel: Spike (Bellator's debut)

Card:

Michael Chandler vs. Rick Hawn
Patricio Freire vs. Pat Curran

My Picks...

Post #13 » by **Shaazzam** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:37 am

anywhere to watch prelims?

Bernman · Post #14 » by **Bernman** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:42 am

Bellator.com, Spike.com, starts at 8/7 central.

Post #15 » by **Shaazzam** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:49 am

Thanks Bern. Hopefully I can watch them in Canada.

Post #16 » by **Shaazzam** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:47 am

I don't think I've ever seen anyone hit the mat from a punch harder than that. Holy ****.

Post #17 » by **LittleOzzy** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:10 am

The production looks great but every time they zoom into the rafters before they introduce a fighter makes me think Sting is up there.

NZB2323 · Post #18 » by **NZB2323** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:23 am

I was looking forward to watching Bellator for the first time tonight, but my TV doesn't get fuel and the bar that shows all the UFC events isn't showing it. :-(

Post #19 » by **LittleOzzy** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:24 am

NZB2323 wrote:I was looking forward to watching Bellator for the first time tonight, but my TV doesn't get fuel and the bar that shows all the UFC events isn't showing it.

It's on Spike TV.

Cammo101 · Post #20 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:28 am

Chandler looked like a monster. The Curran/Pitball fight was excellent. The Light Heavyweight tourney imploded in record time.