UFC Pick'em Pool

[CPT]

For those new to the board and pool, welcome. For the veterans, welcome back.

How to play:
Every (non-TUF) UFC event, we pick all of the fights on the card, ranking them from 10 (your lock, worth 10 pts) to 1, plus alternates in case there's a draw, NC, or last minute cancellation. Just pick the winners.

The season runs 4 months, from March 1 to June 30.

We may or may not drop the lowest score so nobody is out for the whole season just because they forget to pick an event. As it turns out, while that sounds great in theory, it hasn't been getting more people to play and stay in the game, and it has decided positioning at the top since we started doing it. So I've added a poll.

I'm wondering if something could be done with average scores to keep people in the game without screwing over the guys at the top. Anything with averages would probably create more work for K1NG, which I wouldn't really want to do without him being cool with it.

I've had two ideas so far. Other people probably have better ones.

1) You have the option to drop your lowest score, or even scores, but for each low score you drop, you drop your highest score as well. Not sure how this would actually work, or if people could cheat the system (not that I think anyone actually would).

2) For a missed event, you take your average score, or the event's average score, the lowest of the two, or an average of your average score and the event average score, minus the number of events you've missed.

Hope to see lots of players this season!

[CPT]

First event, UFC on FUEL TV 8, March 2


Wanderlei Silva vs. Brian Stann
Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve
Takanori Gomi vs. Diego Sanchez
Hector Lombard vs. Yushin Okami
Mizuto Hirota vs. Rani Yahya
Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Riki Fukuda vs. Brad Tavares
Bryan Caraway vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Cristiano Marcello vs. Kazuki Tokudome
Alex Caceres vs. Kyung Ho Kang
Marcelo Guimaraes vs. Hyun Gyu Lim

[Jasen777]

I voted for zero. It's the "true" result.

I don't like the average ideas, you could gain on someone ahead of you if you miss the right event or they have a poor one. There shouldn't be any scenario were not turning in picks should help you . It's also more complicated. If you want to assign points for a missed event it should be the lowest event score, and probably minus a token amount from that.

Dropping scores makes sense so people can stay in if the miss one. Dropping both high and low scores may be more fair than just dropping the low score.

[REDDzone]

I voted for zero as well. There is plenty of notice to get in events. If seeing this thread causes significantly more people to sign up, I'm fine with doing it the way we have been doing it to give those guys a mulligan, but as of now we have our core group of people who pretty much do every event. And as jasen said, if that's the case, then the zero gives the closest to the "true" score.

[K1NG]

I pretty much echo what RZ said. If we get new guys that want to have the mulligan rule, then I'm fine with it. If not, the core guys rarely miss events, so the zero would be fair. I like that the mulligan gives us a second chance, but there are a lot of variables that could be a factor. We've seen some extremely low scoring events this season and missing the "right" event could undeservingly benefit someone. I think a zero would be the most objective way to handle it.

[Nemesis21]

10) Diego Sanchez
9) Brian Stann
8) Hector Lombard
7) Brad Tavares
6) Stefan Struve
5) Siyar Bahadurzada
4) Rani Yahya
3) Kyung Ho Kang
2) Cristiano Marcello
1) Hyun Gyu Lim

Alt 1) Takeya Mizugaki

[Bernman]

Ideally, I think every card should count for fairness, but the mulligan rule was to some extent a necessary evil. Sometimes people forget, get really busy, or have lost computer access for a period of time. Then they're screwed for the rest of the season. They'll either bow out, and have to wait a few months to start playing again, or accept the inevitable fact they aren't a contender.

I think if this rule change is enacted a couple things could make things go more smoothly.

One would be to allow players to submit their picks for any card as early as they like.

Another would be earlier and more eye catching reminders.

A third would be shortening the season a little so people's efforts didn't really go down the drain or if they missed it wouldn't be a waiting period of several months possibly. Maybe the season ends after 12 cards or so. I don't know how long last season lasted.

[SDM]

One would be to allow players to submit their picks for any card as early as they like.

Don't know about this... with injuries, cancellations and what have you, editing picks could get messy.

[CPT]

Thought I replied to this already.

There's no rule saying people can't submit their picks early, but as SDM pointed out, it's going to get messy with edits and just trying to find the picks.

The earlier reminders part is on me. Sometimes I drag ass on changing the title, when really it should be done as soon as the previous event is finished. I'm not sure how to make it more eyecatching though.

I'd probably prefer 3 month seasons. We've been doing 4 month seasons for the past 2 or 3. If we go to 3 month seasons, maybe we will start with the next one, just to satisfy my need for everything to fit nicely. The Nov-Feb, Mar-June, July-Oct schedule eats away at my soul. Run this one til June, then go July-Sept, Oct-Dec, Jan-Mar, Apr-June the next go around.

Seems like we'll be going with every event counting.

[Cammo101]

10. Alex Caceres
9. Brian Stann
8. Diego Sanchez
7. Takeya Mizugaki
6. Mizuto Hirota
5. Brad Tavares
4. Hector Lombard
3. Siyar Bahadurzada
2. Stefan Struve
1. Kazuki Tokudome
ATL. Hyun Gyu Lim

[Bernman]

10. Takeya Mizugaki
09. Hector Lombard
08. Diego Sanchez
07. Brian Stann
06. Hyun Gyu Lim
05. Mizuto Hirota
04. Brad Tavares
03. Dong Hyun Kim
02. Stefan Struve
01. Kazuki Tokudome
Alt 1. Bruce Leroy

[Jasen777]

10 - Hyun Gyu Lim
9 -Takeya Mizugaki
8 - Dong Hyun Kim
7 - Brian Stann
6 - Diego Sanchez
5 - Stefan Struve
4 - Cristiano Marcello
3 - Hector Lombard
2 - Brad Tavares
1 - Alex Caceres

alt 1 -Rani Yahya

[CPT]

10. Wanderlei Silva vs. Brian Stann
9. Marcelo Guimaraes vs. Hyun Gyu Lim
8. Cristiano Marcello vs. Kazuki Tokudome
7. Takanori Gomi vs. Diego Sanchez
6. Hector Lombard vs. Yushin Okami
5. Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Dong Hyun Kim
4. Bryan Caraway vs. Takeya Mizugaki
3. Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve
2. Mizuto Hirota vs. Rani Yahya
1. Alex Caceres vs. Kyung Ho Kang
ALT. Riki Fukuda vs. Brad Tavares

[REDDzone]

FINE, I'll change my format to match eveyrone else's.
10) Sanchez
9) Lim
8) Stann
7) Mizugaki
6) Tavares
5) Kim
4) Struve
3) Lombard
2) Tokudome
1) Caceres
alt) Hirota

[K1NG]

10) Brian Stann
9) Diego Sanchez
8) Stefan Struve
7) Siyar Bahadurzada
6) Rani Yahya
5) Hector Lombard
4) Kazuki Tokudome
3) Brian Caraway
2) Kyung Ho Kang
1) Brad Tavares

Alt: Marcelo Guimaraes

[K1NG]

I won't be around tonight to tally the scores as it finishes, but I'll have it done tomorrow.

[SDM]

10. Brian Stann
9. Diego Sanchez
8. Takeya Mizugaki
7. Stefan Struve
6. Siyar Bahadurzada
5. Hector Lombard
4. Hyun Gyu Lim
3. Kazuki Tokudome
2. Mizuto Hirota
1. Kyung Ho Kang
ALT. Riki Fukuda

[CPT]

Picks are all over the place for this event. Could be the season right here, given how close it usually is at the end.

[Jasen777]

Locked

[K1NG]

UFC on FUEL TV 8 Results:

1) REDDzone - 40
2) Jasen777 – 36
3) CPT – 33
4) Bernman – 32
5) Cammo101 – 31
6) SDM - 24
7) Nemesis21 – 22
8) K1NG - 20