Boxing Thread 4.0

cowboyronnie · Post #1541 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:03 pm

I wouldn't say it's outside the rules or manipulative, ala flopping. You're not trying to deceive anyone or get any 'score'. You're conceding a point.

Knickfan1982 · Post #1542 » by **Knickfan1982** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:52 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
It was rhetorical, I know this is thing to do, it's just extremely silly that the rules promote throwing yourself to the floor more than actually standing on your own two feet.

That is absolutely positively the wrong way to look at it. The rules do not promote throwing yourself to the floor more than standing on your own two feet. You can only win a fight by landing punches. Its not like when Lebron flops or when a soccer player gets bumps into another guy and then drops on the floor and rolls around on the floor like he got stabbed. Those are pathetic attempts to curry favor with the officials and manipulate them into punishing the other team with yellow cards or foul calls. Taking a knee is a strategic decision that will help you survive the fight. BUT its one that also costs you a point. Taking a knee is counted as a knock down. If taking a knee allows you to recover enough to survive until the end of the fight it could potentially affect the scoring in such a way as to cost you the decision. So there is an element of risk involved with that making that choice.

You're looking at it all wrong.

Dry_Fish · Post #1543 » by **Dry_Fish** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:27 am

Looks like it's the end of the line for Gonzales ... the thai fighter looked bigger and some of Choco's power (with volume) doesn't carry well moving up in weight class. Choco never looked comfortable and the other dude just looked so confident

Knickfan1982 · Post #1544 » by **Knickfan1982** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:45 pm

He's going to need to drop down to 112 if he still can. His power isn't there at 115.

Butch718 · Post #1545 » by **Butch718** » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:16 pm

Inoue and Wangek please.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1546 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:38 pm

I was on vacation and just watched the card now.

Estrada-Cuadras was a hell of a fight, Estrada really turned it up in the 2nd half of the fight to win. Cuadras can still be a factor in the division. Inoue is a monster, powerful hook to the body and crisp jab. Gonzalez looked like a disinterested fighter from the jump (or possibly shot?) and Sor Rungvisai was a lot more determined to prove people wrong. He showed that he had power in the first fight, but I thought Choco's skills would be more of the tale in this one, yet it wasn't close to it. Gonzalez has to take a long break to figure his next move, Sor Rungvisai against either Estrada or Inoue would be great fights.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1547 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:36 pm

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20775014/pound-pound-king-world-titleholder-andre-ward-says-leaving-boxing

Light heavyweight champ Andre Ward is retiring.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1548 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:18 pm

Very good performance by Linares, but Campbell deserves props for making it a fight. Thought it would be one where Linares dominates but that wasn't the case at all. Not sure about the split card though, felt Linares was a clear winner.

Bostondave · Post #1549 » by **Bostondave** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:13 am

GS Warriors 1 wrote:http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20775014/pound-pound-king-world-titleholder-andre-ward-says-leaving-boxing

Light heavyweight champ Andre Ward is retiring.

Now THAT was a fighter!

Post #1550 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 3:47 am

Good Lord, that's about as dominant a win as you could see from Wilder.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1551 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sat Dec 2, 2017 8:13 pm

Miguel Cotto's final fight is tonight at MSG against Sadam Ali on HBO. Cotto is the only fighter from the boxing rich island of Puerto Rico to win a belt in 4 different weight classes. Given the recent talent to come from PR, I don't think we're going to see a fighter of Cotto's quality from there for quite a bit of time. Kinda sad to say, really.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1552 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:04 am

Spoiler:

Papi_swav · Post #1553 » by **Papi_swav** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:08 am

Loma vs. Rigo ! It's going to be a good one I think.... I got Loma in split decision.

CobraCommander · Post #1554 » by **CobraCommander** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:39 am

Papi_swav wrote:Loma vs. Rigo ! It's going to be a good one I think.... I got Loma in split decision.

Loma changed that name to NO-Mas-

I like he called Rigo a king and said its not a big win because of the weight difference. Wow a fighter that gives respect to his opponent...

Good fight.

Papi_swav · Post #1555 » by **Papi_swav** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:22 am

CobraCommander wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:Loma vs. Rigo ! It's going to be a good one I think.... I got Loma in split decision.

Loma changed that name to NO-Mas-

I like he called Rigo a king and said its not a big win because of the weight difference. Wow a fighter that gives respect to his opponent...

Good fight.

You mean bad fight, but great performance by Loma... Rigo couldn't do anything .. It's crazy how Loma is making these great fighters quit .. He needs his rematch on Solido who is fighting on HBO now... and then move up in weight.

CobraCommander · Post #1556 » by **CobraCommander** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:25 am

Papi_swav wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:Loma vs. Rigo ! It's going to be a good one I think.... I got Loma in split decision.

Loma changed that name to NO-Mas-

I like he called Rigo a king and said its not a big win because of the weight difference. Wow a fighter that gives respect to his opponent...

Good fight.

You mean bad fight, but great performance by Loma... Rigo couldn't do anything .. It's crazy how Loma is making these great fighters quit .. He needs his rematch on Solido who is fighting on HBO now... and then move up in weight.

Yeah bad fight but thats what happens when a superior fighter beats down a inferior fighter.

Dry_Fish · Post #1557 » by **Dry_Fish** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:58 am

Salido is done ....after the first time they met, I think Loma would have knock out Salido the second time when he was in his prime. Loma would have knock out Siri if it was a 15 round

I suspect boring fight but it was worse. Rigo just stop

Butch718 · Post #1558 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:15 pm

NoMaaschenko.

This version of Loma would have easily beaten the version of Salido that he lost to in his second fight.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1559 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:32 am

I favored Lomachenko entering the fight, but he reduced Rigo to nothing, pretty much. Thoroughly outclassed. Need more of a look on Chris Diaz, he looks like he could be the goods down the road.

Salido/Roman...the fight was what we thought it would be. Surprised that Roman seemed to consistently get the better of Salido on the inside. The battles and years finally caught up to Salido. Ogawa/Farmer was a bad decision, but it was a closer fight than HBO thought. Still, Farmer deserved to win.

And Stephen Smith/Francisco Vargas will be remembered for the gruesome ear injury:

Spoiler:

Butch718 · Post #1560 » by **Butch718** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:49 pm

I think Loma should have one tuneup at 135, then face Linares.