UFC on FOX 14 Gus vs Rumble 1/24....

Nemesis21 · Post #1 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:24 pm

Announced fights for this event,

Alexander Gustafsson vs Anthony Johnson
Dan Henderson vs Gegard Mousasi
Matt Brown vs Tarec Saffiedine
Douglas Silva de Andrade vs Davey Grant
Nico Musoke vs Albert Tumenov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_Fox ... s._Johnson

Jasen777 · Post #2 » by **Jasen777** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:36 am

I like the main event, but I wonder why they are taking such a risk with Gus getting to his Jones title rematch (Jones though has his own risk of course).

REDDzone · Post #3 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:05 pm

So this will take from from 8-10 for fox viewership, but Sweden is 6 hours ahead. So the main event probably won't be wrapping up until 4 am or later. Crazy.

NZB2323 · Post #4 » by **NZB2323** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:56 pm

I can't complain about this event.

Cammo101 · Post #5 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:18 pm

Jasen777 wrote:I like the main event, but I wonder why they are taking such a risk with Gus getting to his Jones title rematch (Jones though has his own risk of course).

Also, the risk is mitigated by the fact that if Gus loses, Johnson becomes a no brainer title challenger.

Post #6 » by **Marcus** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:11 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Jasen777 wrote:I like the main event, but I wonder why they are taking such a risk with Gus getting to his Jones title rematch (Jones though has his own risk of course).

Also, the risk is mitigated by the fact that if Gus loses, Johnson becomes a no brainer title challenger.

while also giving fans a glimpse of what this new Rumble might look like against Bones' type of length.

Post #7 » by **CPT** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:26 pm

I think it's kinda dumb.

Jones has 3 interesting fights available: DC, Gus II, Johnson. That's about it, and there's nothing else on the horizon. None of them need a win over the other to justify a shot. Hell, the shot DC is getting originally belonged to Gus.

I guess the thinking is the winner will go into a fight with Jones with a lot of momentum, and the loser will be able to recover with one or two wins in the interim, but guaranteeing a loss for one of them is kind of risky.

BTW, the shttiness of HW is seeping into LHW. This list is depressing:

http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/li ... 5-205-lbs/

NZB2323 · Post #8 » by **NZB2323** » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:52 pm

CPT wrote:I think it's kinda dumb.

Jones has 3 interesting fights available: DC, Gus II, Johnson. That's about it, and there's nothing else on the horizon. None of them need a win over the other to justify a shot. Hell, the shot DC is getting originally belonged to Gus.

I guess the thinking is the winner will go into a fight with Jones with a lot of momentum, and the loser will be able to recover with one or two wins in the interim, but guaranteeing a loss for one of them is kind of risky.

BTW, the shttiness of HW is seeping into LHW. This list is depressing:

http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/li ... 5-205-lbs/

This fight has intrinsic value in it though. What happens if Jones get injured again? These guys just sit around twiddling their thumbs while the UFC promots main events that are way worse than this? The loser of this fight just has to win a couple of fights against fighters from the list in order to earn another title shot. It's going to be a while before the winner of Jones-DC faces the winner of this fight.

Besides, what if Cormier beats Jones? Jones could face the loser of this fight, but the UFC would probably give him an immediate rematch.

Post #9 » by **CPT** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:44 am

That's a good point. I suppose on its own, it's about as good a fight as you can make at LHW, and we shouldn't worry too much about the title picture/business side. But I do, and my interest in the LHW division revolves entirely around Jon Jones and seeing him take on all comers, preferably with different styles, advantages, and disadvantages.

And yeah, if DC beats Cormier, we're not seeing either of these two guys fight for the title for a while anyway. There will be a rematch and possibly even a rubber match, depending on how the fights go.

Nemesis21 · Post #10 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:37 am

CPT wrote:I think it's kinda dumb.

Jones has 3 interesting fights available: DC, Gus II, Johnson. That's about it, and there's nothing else on the horizon. None of them need a win over the other to justify a shot. Hell, the shot DC is getting originally belonged to Gus.

I guess the thinking is the winner will go into a fight with Jones with a lot of momentum, and the loser will be able to recover with one or two wins in the interim, but guaranteeing a loss for one of them is kind of risky.

BTW, the shttiness of HW is seeping into LHW. This list is depressing:

http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/li ... 5-205-lbs/

If he beats those 3(Gus again), there's really no one left in that division. He should then move to HW.

Nemesis21 · Post #11 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:54 pm

Phil Davis vs Ryan Bader added to this card,

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/11949 ... -stockholm

Jasen777 · Post #12 » by **Jasen777** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:00 pm

Might this be for a fake belt, given what Jones is up to? Seen a few suggest that, but it'd be premature IMO.

REDDzone · Post #13 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Jan 7, 2015 3:22 pm

Lol yea let's get the cokehead out of the title role so that we can crown a serial domestic abuser.

Save us Rumble!

Jasen777 · Post #14 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:55 am

Anyone think Rumble is getting overlooked here? +240ish?

Jasen777 · Post #15 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:57 am

And if you casuals don't know who Viktor Pesta is - this is him.

Post #16 » by **CPT** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:56 am

Full card:

MAIN CARD
FOX, 8 p.m. ET
Alexander Gustafsson vs. Anthony Johnson
Dan Henderson vs. Gegard Mousasi
Ryan Bader vs. Phil Davis
Akira Corassani vs. Sam Sicilia

PRELIMINARY CARD
FOX Sports 1, 5 p.m. ET
Nico Musoke vs. Albert Tumenov
Sultan Aliev vs. Kenny Robertson
Makwan Amirkhani vs. Andy Ogle
Nikita Krylov vs. Stanislav Nedkov
Anthony Christodoulou vs. Mairbek Taisumov
Mirsad Bektic vs. Paul Redmond

PRELIMINARY CARD
UFC Fight Pass, 4 p.m. ET
Konstantin Erokhin vs. Viktor Pesta
Chris Beal vs. Neil Seery

Post #17 » by **CPT** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:57 am

Why don't I care more about this?

Bernman · Post #18 » by **Bernman** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:31 am

Just had a card a couple days ago and there's a precipitous drop after the top 3? Corassani/Sicilia has no business main carding a FS1, let alone a Fox.

I didn't know there was an event this week until right now. I thought this was next week. I'm more relieved to find out there is an event, than excited, after looking at it. I was looking forward to more quality MMA, but this is a holesy card. I do like Tumenov, Musoke, and Bektic. I'm saying who or meh about a lot of other dudes. I will probably be anticipating it once we hit Saturday.

Post #19 » by **CPT** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:02 am

I mean, I get that the gate in Sweden will be huge, but the Fight Night, this, and Silva/Diaz could have been combined and split into two, and we would have some seriously awesome cards.

Also, even though the names in the 2 and 3 fights are big, I don't really care about those fights. Like regardless of what happens, I'll think the same thing about the fighters involved afterwards.

I should be more excited about Gus vs. Rumble though. I think there's a Road to the Octagon or something similar I should watch.

REDDzone · Post #20 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:05 am

I heard somewhere that Gus is a 2-1 favorite over Rumble. Somewhat surprising to me, but then again I feel like I think a lot less of Gus than most.

edit: Its actually closer to 3-1. And also, does this site crash every other visit for anyone else? I've had to delete so many posts because the board crashes and double posts all the time now.