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Post#1 » by Jasen777 » Sat May 16, 2015 1:00 am

Nevada Athletic Commission massively overhauls drug program, topped by lifetime bans

The new guidelines are as follows:

Tier 1: Sedatives, Muscle relaxants, Sleep aids, Anxiolytics, Opiates, Cannabis

1st offense: 18-month suspension, fine of 30-40% of fighter's purse
2nd offense: 24-month suspension, fine of 40-50% of fighter's purse
3rd offense: 36-month suspension, fine of 60-75% of fighter's purse
4th offense: Lifetime suspension, fine of 100% of fighter's purse

Tier 2: Diuretics being used to cut weight

1st offense: 24-month suspension, fine of 30-40% of fighter's purse
2nd offense: 36-month suspension, fine of 40-60% of fighter's purse
3rd offense: Lifetime suspension, fine of 100% of fighter's purse

Tier 3: Stimulants (Amphetamines, Cocaine, Etc.)

1st offense: 24-month suspension, fine of 35-45% of fighter's purse
2nd offense: 36-month suspension, fine of 50-60% of fighter's purse
3rd offense: Lifetime suspension, fine of 100% of fighter's purse

Tier 4: Anabolic steroids (includes Testosterone, HGH)

1st offense: 36-month suspension, fine of 50-75% of fighter's purse
2nd offense: 48-month suspension, fine of 75-100% of fighter's purse
3rd offense: Lifetime suspension, fine of 100% of fighter's purse

Tier 5: Avoiding testing/detection/urine sample not of human origin or not of tested athletes, Adulterants, Drugs (including diuretics) used as masking agents

1st offense: 48-month suspension, fine of 75% of fighter's purse
2nd offense: Lifetime suspension, fine of 100% of fighter's purse


So a year and a half for a potentially legal use of pot when the test they use can't even prove when you took it.
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Post#2 » by CPT » Sat May 16, 2015 2:47 am

Seems tough, which I like. I'm sure there will be details about it that I don't care for though.

Tier 5 is great.
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Post#3 » by Jasen777 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:14 am

Judge overturns NAC's discipline of Wanderlei Silva, orders re-hearing

Wanderlei Silva scored a victory in court last week, but he's not out of the woods yet.

A judge in Nevada district court ruled Friday that his discipline from the Nevada Athletic Commission -- a lifetime ban and $70,000 fine -- will be overturned, because it was "in excess of the statutory authority of the agency," according to court documents obtained by MMAFighting.com. Silva will have to appear again in front of the commission for a re-hearing.

However, the argument put forth by Silva's attorney Ross Goodman, that the NAC did not have proper jurisdiction because Silva was not a licensed fighter when it attempted to drug test him, was also thrown out. Judge Kerry Earley ruled that the NAC "properly exercised jurisdiction" in the matter.


So they can test people who aren't licensed apparently.
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Post#4 » by REDDzone » Tue May 19, 2015 1:43 am

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Post#5 » by blkout » Tue May 19, 2015 1:59 am

I wish they'd just legalize it everywhere so these stoners would shut up already. They're as bad as atheists.

It'll take a while but they'll find ways around all of these sanctions. The **** Lance Armstrong was doing was some next level stuff, blood transfusions and all sorts of craziness.
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Post#6 » by Jasen777 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:26 am

blkout wrote:It'll take a while but they'll find ways around all of these sanctions. The **** Lance Armstrong was doing was some next level stuff, blood transfusions and all sorts of craziness.


I'd think most fighters won't have the money for the whole Lance Armstrong program.
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Post#7 » by cowboyronnie » Tue May 19, 2015 2:27 am

blkout wrote:I wish they'd just legalize it everywhere so these stoners would shut up already. They're as bad as atheists.


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Post#8 » by REDDzone » Tue May 19, 2015 2:34 am

blkout wrote:I wish they'd just legalize it everywhere so these stoners would shut up already. They're as bad as atheists.


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Post#9 » by CPT » Tue May 19, 2015 10:45 am

blkout wrote:I wish they'd just legalize it everywhere so these stoners would shut up already. They're as bad as atheists.


Well I guess we can't be friends.
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Post#10 » by blkout » Wed May 20, 2015 12:26 am

I smoke too I just didn't get my complimentary megaphone and reddit username when I bought my pipe.
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Post#11 » by SDM » Fri May 22, 2015 11:55 pm

Yeah, those people are ruining it for everyone else.
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Post#12 » by Jasen777 » Sat May 23, 2015 12:27 am

Remember when people freaked about Jones' low T/E ratio?

Well...

On March 16, Belfort was tested and scored 12 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) of testosterone in the body, as well as a testosterone-epitestosterone (T/E) 1.7 -- the maximum rate allowed by NAC is 6/1. Weidman was tested on March 30, and was 3.7 ng/mL testosterone and a rate T/E of 0.13. The American went through the same exam again on April 27, and appeared with identical testosterone level, and a rate T/E of 0.092. The Brazilian was examined the following day, and had 5 ng/ml of testosterone and rate T/E 1.5.
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Post#13 » by CPT » Sat May 23, 2015 12:58 am

Did we get an acceptable explanation for that at the time? Not even for Jones specifically, but why a high level athlete would produce those numbers naturally?
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Post#14 » by REDDzone » Sat May 23, 2015 2:47 am

I think the popular explanation for Cormier/Weidman/Jones low ratios is that the rigors of training camp gets to them and affects their levels. Its gotta be either that, or they are on some Lance Armstrong next level sh*t that the likes of normal ufc fighters don't have access to or can't afford.
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Post#15 » by Jasen777 » Sat May 23, 2015 3:04 am

But less than .1? Apparently the effects of exercise on it aren't certain.

Evaluation of Testosterone/Epitestosterone Ratio
Influential Factors as Determined in Doping Analysis


Exercise
The influence of exercise on the T/E ratio is still unclear, de Boer
et al. (82) reported no significant change in mean T/E ratio that
could be attributed to exercise, which was done by five well-trained
volunteers. The exercise was performed on a bicycle ergometer
with a programmed workload to simulate a race course of the Tour
de France. These results were supported by a study performed on
13 cyclists participating in the Tour de Suisse and the Tour de
France in 1992 (83). Samples were taken every day before and after
the exercise, and no influence on the T/E was found. Maynar et al.
(84) reported decreased urinary concentrations of T and E during
training periods and increased concentrations during competition.
These results were obtained from urine samples of 16 professional
racing cyclists. However, only urinary concentrations have been
measured instead of excretion rates; therefore, these results should
be confirmed. It was concluded that the T/E ratio decreased significantly
during training and competition. Increasing androgen
levels were suggested to be due to a decreased SHBG level as result
of extensive exercise. Yap et al. (85) reported insignificant decreases
of T excretion during different intensities of physical exercisestress.
The experiment was conducted on four groups of 7 to 12
male athletes. Also psychological stress during competition has
been investigated in a pentathlon pistol shooting experiment (86).
Plasma testosterone concentrations increased, whereas luteinizing
hormone (LH) levels were constant. The effect was more significant
in older subjects. No effect was observed on the urinary T/E ratio.

These contradictory results should be a challenge for further
investigation, especially because the control of athletes often
takes place after a match. A lot of parameters has to be taken into
account, for example, exercise duration, intensity, and repetition,
the type of exercise, gender, and general condition and ethnic
background of volunteers.
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Post#16 » by cowboyronnie » Sat May 23, 2015 5:14 am

I saw a respected endocrinologist once, he scoffed at the idea that strenuous exercise could alter testosterone.

Joe Rogan says otherwise. So who knows.
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Post#17 » by REDDzone » Sat May 23, 2015 5:26 am

cowboyronnie wrote:I saw a respected endocrinologist once, he scoffed at the idea that strenuous exercise could alter testosterone.

Joe Rogan says otherwise. So who knows.


Alter testosterone in what way though? That's the question, right?

In my extremely basic and rudimentary understanding of all this, I could see how conceptually a hard training camp could lower absolute testosterone levels. What I do not get, again just logically and from how I understand it, how that could alter your ratio? Like, why would that happen? That's what I haven't figured out.
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Post#18 » by Jasen777 » Wed Jun 3, 2015 10:44 pm

Revamped UFC drug policy includes random year-round testing, two-year suspensions for first-time offenders

The UFC earlier this year teased a significant transformation to its drug testing policy. On Wednesday, that transformation became a reality.

Jeff Novitzy, the UFC's new Vice President of Athlete Health and Performance, outlined a series of dramatic changes at a press conference in Las Vegas intended to create what he termed "the best anti-doping program in all of professional sports." The new program, under the leadership of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA), is expected to roll out July 1.

Once established, rhe UFC's entire roster of 500+ fighters will be subject to "unannounced, year-round in- and out-of-competition testing," including both blood and urine testing, "with the possibility of a collection occurring any place, any time, with no notice," according to Novitzy.


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Post#19 » by CPT » Wed Jun 3, 2015 11:11 pm

Interesting.

First two things that come to mind:

1) Is this enough to satisfy GSP and get him back?

2) The Diaz bros are gonna be pissed.
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Post#20 » by cowboyronnie » Thu Jun 4, 2015 12:23 am

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