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Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:13 am
by Gregoire
Weidman, Rockhold, Jacare and Romero... IMO most evenly matched and strong top-4 in any division.
How do you rank them? How you see odds in their fights with each other? IMO Weidman chances are over 50% with Jacare and Romero, Rockhold have the advantage with Weidman, but underdog with Jacare and 50/50 with Romero, Romero have the advantage with Jacare. What do you think?
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:46 pm
by REDDzone
Its not as easy as "Romero vs Jacare" or Romero vs whoever, you also have to consider that the next opponent of Romero will have the full power of gay jesus behind him now that Romero has blasphemed him on cable tv.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:02 pm
by NZB2323
REDDzone wrote:Its not as easy as "Romero vs Jacare" or Romero vs whoever, you also have to consider that the next opponent of Romero will have the full power of gay jesus behind him now that Romero has blasphemed him on cable tv.
I really want to Google "Romero gay Jesus" so I can understand what you're talking about, but I'm at work right now.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:12 pm
by CPT
It's dumb, but I'm holding on to the idea that Jacare could and would beat them all.
I think at one point it was actually true, but Jacare is getting up there, and I don't know where the balance between his physical decline and skill development has left him.
Rockhold on the other hand I continue to underrate. I think he's improved a lot, and he did beat Jacare in that weird fight.
Romero's wrestling base and power means he could beat any of these guys on a given night, but I wouldn't pick him to do it.
Weidman deserves the top spot right now, I just don't like him.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:28 pm
by Jasen777
Weidman is number one until someone beats him. I'd put Rockhold second just because he has that win over Jacare, even though I don't know how I'd pick that today. I don't think who deserve what ranking vs. who I'd pick to win are the same thing here.
Also who says gay Jesus doesn't support Romero?
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:01 pm
by REDDzone
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:35 pm
by Nemesis21
CPT wrote:It's dumb, but I'm holding on to the idea that Jacare could and would beat them all.
I think at one point it was actually true, but Jacare is getting up there, and I don't know where the balance between his physical decline and skill development has left him.
Rockhold on the other hand I continue to underrate. I think he's improved a lot, and he did beat Jacare in that weird fight.
Romero's wrestling base and power means he could beat any of these guys on a given night, but I wouldn't pick him to do it.
Weidman deserves the top spot right now, I just don't like him.
Why because he beat Anderson?
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:20 pm
by SDM
Great fighter, but I never find myself getting amped for his fights, even if I suspect they'll be close. There's something very workmanlike about his approach that I should like, in theory, but when he was coming up and had the "next big thing" label, I found it boring. He's the MMA equivalent of a salmon and wild rice dish in some crappy interstate restaurant that's rammed with blue hairs eating dinner at 4PM.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:38 pm
by REDDzone
SDM wrote:Great fighter, but I never find myself getting amped for his fights, even if I suspect they'll be close. There's something very workmanlike about his approach that I should like, in theory, but when he was coming up and had the "next big thing" label, I found it boring. He's the MMA equivalent of a salmon and wild rice dish in some crappy interstate restaurant that's rammed with blue hairs eating dinner at 4PM.
I don't really see this. I think its refreshing to see a 'next big thing' actually turn into the next big thing. Hell has the dude ever lost a round? I think Machida might have edged one, otherwise I don't believe so. He is great at every style, ktfo Anderson after training standup for like 5 years, beat Machida standing for 25 minutes, etc.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:32 pm
by CPT
Nemesis21 wrote:Why because he beat Anderson?
SDM wrote:Great fighter, but I never find myself getting amped for his fights, even if I suspect they'll be close. There's something very workmanlike about his approach that I should like, in theory, but when he was coming up and had the "next big thing" label, I found it boring. He's the MMA equivalent of a salmon and wild rice dish in some crappy interstate restaurant that's rammed with blue hairs eating dinner at 4PM.
This +

+ Jesus.
He seems like a guy who would say "you know, I think Donald Trump raises a lot of good points."
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:42 am
by REDDzone
Don't tell me you don't want to see Trump stay in the presidential race. The SNL skits alone would be worth it.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:49 am
by REDDzone
Jokes aside, watch Weidman's takedowns on a highlight or something. He has probably translated his wrestling to mma as good or better than anyone I've seen. When he shoots, he doesn't drag people down sloppy, he hits double legs, etc. in the center of the cage which is hard to do at his level. He may be the best in the sport at it.
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:55 am
by Gregoire
REDDzone wrote:Jokes aside, watch Weidman's takedowns on a highlight or something. He has probably translated his wrestling to mma as good or better than anyone I've seen. When he shoots, he doesn't drag people down sloppy, he hits double legs, etc. in the center of the cage which is hard to do at his level. He may be the best in the sport at it.
Weidman's MMA wrestling is better than Romero's one?
Re: Discussing top-4 in current UFC MW division
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:01 pm
by REDDzone
I think I've actually seen Romero fight twice, once when he beat Machida and once when he lost to Tim Kennedy.
