UFC 195: Rousey Removed, Main Event TBA? (1/2/16)

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UFC 195: Rousey Removed, Main Event TBA? (1/2/16) 

Post#1 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:29 pm

Announced this morning.

Holm is not ready.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#2 » by CPT » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:53 pm

Yeah, this is gross.

I'd actually prefer the Tate fight, which is saying something.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#3 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:49 pm

I just hate how the ufc doesn't know how to build prospects. Long-term I think Holm is a viable challenger. Why waste her? She's not there yet.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#4 » by Shaazzam » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:10 pm

reports are out that tate wasnt given a heads up about this
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#5 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:28 pm

Shaazzam wrote:reports are out that tate wasnt given a heads up about this


Lol dude of course she wasn't. The ufc doesn't even tell fighters when they ae cut.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#6 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:44 pm

WTF is the UFC doing? Holm isn't ready, this will be another quick one for Rousey. I'd rathe see Rousey/Tate 3, 4 and 5 before this. lol
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#7 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:48 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:WTF is the UFC doing? Holm isn't ready, this will be another quick one for Rousey. I'd rathe see Rousey/Tate 3, 4 and 5 before this. lol


Maybe that's the point. Maybe they like the Mike Tyson comparisons.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#8 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:50 pm

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Nemesis21 wrote:WTF is the UFC doing? Holm isn't ready, this will be another quick one for Rousey. I'd rathe see Rousey/Tate 3, 4 and 5 before this. lol


Maybe that's the point. Maybe they like the Mike Tyson comparisons.




It's just not the time for this fight, it'll be another quick one.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#9 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:35 pm

The thing that sucks is that Holm could theoretically be at least a challenge for Rousey down the down a year or so. She just needs more experience, she has less than 10 mma fights.

She has good boxing but also good kicking, so she could do a better job of keeping Rousey at a distance than many of her other opponents. Although I will say that Rousey has shown she has no problem with taking a punch to get her clinch and I'm not sure Holm has the power to stun her or end it.

Otherwise though, has a Holm fight ever hit the ground? I didn't watch much of her except for gifs of her finishes prior to her ufc debut (cammo may know better) but has she ever been on the ground for even one second ever in a fight?
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#10 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:23 pm

Bethe calling out Meisha now due to this. IMO try to get Cyborg to fight Meisha on this card.

Bethe is just annoying to me at this point. If I never saw her fight or tweet or anything again, I'd be fine with that. STFU, you WWEd your way to a title shot.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#11 » by Jasen777 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:25 pm

Tate wasn't official?
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#12 » by Jasen777 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:27 pm

REDDzone wrote:Otherwise though, has a Holm fight ever hit the ground? I didn't watch much of her except for gifs of her finishes prior to her ufc debut (camma may know better) but has she ever been on the ground for even one second ever in a fight?


I've only seen her last 3 or 4 fights, I don't recall it ever going to the ground.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#13 » by REDDzone » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:48 pm

They are hoping to put Joanna/Gadelha here too.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#14 » by UN-Owen » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:25 am

REDDzone wrote:Holm is not ready.


Agreed.

I had high hopes for Holm before she signed with the UFC, but I don't like her chances against Rousey at this point
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#15 » by REDDzone » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:23 am

At least Holm is an actual fighter and not just some hobbyist like her last opponent.

She's not ready, but she will last longer than her last 4 opponents combined (not saying much lol).
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#16 » by Hilltop » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:43 am

You think she will last that long? I'm thinking a 45 second affair. Ronda will bully her into the clinch, take the fight to the mat, and rip her arm off.

Always had mad respect for Holly Holm but she hasn't looked that great and I don't see Ronda respecting her striking or power.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#17 » by Bulltalk » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:02 am

REDDzone wrote:Bethe calling out Meisha now due to this. IMO try to get Cyborg to fight Meisha on this card.

Bethe is just annoying to me at this point. If I never saw her fight or tweet or anything again, I'd be fine with that. STFU, you WWEd your way to a title shot.


:lol:

I have no idea who this Holm is. I have to dig. The thing about Rousey is that she *seems* to be one of those fighters who needs to hate their opponent to get supremely motivated. That was easy to do when she was on the rise to the top, and then...Bethe... :lol:

Who knows? This Holm chick may last longer than the rest just because Rousey sitting high on her perch doesn't hate her enough, doesn't even consider her enough.

Everyone knows it. It's Cyborg or bust.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#18 » by REDDzone » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:12 pm

Hilltop wrote:You think she will last that long? I'm thinking a 45 second affair. Ronda will bully her into the clinch, take the fight to the mat, and rip her arm off.

Always had mad respect for Holly Holm but she hasn't looked that great and I don't see Ronda respecting her striking or power.


I don't really agree with the notion that she hasn't looked good though. Granted she didn't look great in her debut (her first ufc fight and 8th mma fight ever was a ufc ppv co-main, think nerves could have played a factor?). Her last fight though she looked fine, technical, good kicks and punches and probably landed 2-2.5 times more strikes than her opponent over three rounds.

That said, just like Ronda she fought a f*cking hobbyist, a schoolteacher who fights on the side. This division is just so terrible. I think it was James Vick who tweeted about how in that division you win two fights and get a title shot, while he is undefeated and has won four ufc wins in a row and is ranked like ~40 in his division. :lol: Bulltalk is right when he said Cyborg or bust.
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Re: RE: Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#19 » by RalphWiggum » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:13 am

Nemesis21 wrote:WTF is the UFC doing? Holm isn't ready, this will be another quick one for Rousey. I'd rathe see Rousey/Tate 3, 4 and 5 before this. lol

They know exactly what they are doing, they are giving her another fight that she's almost guaranteed to win so the media and the casual fan will be fawning all over her. It's like mid 80s Hulk Hogan in the WWF except the ufc is not supposed to be scripted.
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Re: UFC 195: Rousey vs Holm (1/2/16) 

Post#20 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:53 am

Meh. Until they can get Cyborg, they have to cook up a story to sell. Rousey/Tate 3 is a harder pitch than an undefeated, accomplished boxer. Plus, Tate probably doesn't get knocked off and they still have that in their pocket.


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