UFC 217: Bisping vs GSP 11/4

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GSP said his wake around weight when he gets up in the morning is 186 pounds.

"I'm not a big welterweight," St-Pierre said. "I walk around 187 (pounds). I'm 186, 187 when I wake up in the morning, and I could easily make it (with) a diet, because a lot of lightweights are bigger than me. Welterweight, I don't even talk about it because most of them are bigger than me, of course, and middleweight, they're much bigger than me. But it's not really about size. It's about skills."

I want this fight at 155 so bad lol

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GSP also signed a contract saying he'll fight Robert Whittaker and defend the belt. Which is also probably not true. Dude is not fighting at 155.

[Jasen777]

GSP also said that moving down after moving up can be really difficult and blamed it for Roy Jones Jr. struggles.

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Whittaker is bad match up for GSP, so I don't see that happening. So Imo he'll vacate the belt.

After Conor smokes Tony in December(or early 2018, but it's looking like UFC 219) and they could very well meet for a super fight at 170, or maybe catchweight?. Both Dana('Never say never') and GSP('Don't rule it out') both said it's possible, and everyone knows Conor is up for anything if a lot of money is involved. Put those two against each other in NYC and watch it break records with ease.

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Moving down is hard. Period! Not all guys are able to cut the same. Georges doesn’t seem to have a lot of weight he can cut past 170. 15 more pounds is a lot, you’re either going to have to atart giving up a lot of muscle, or come in super drained. I think 170 was obviously the best weight for him, and saying he could make 155 easy, but never doing it seems like a bold statement, or exagerration for added effect.

Anyway. I would be amped for the fight if it happened at any weight, but I think Georges would bully Conor. Anyone from 155 for that matter, none of them are keeping Georges grip off of them.


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Moving down is hard. Period! Not all guys are able to cut the same. Georges doesn’t seem to have a lot of weight he can cut past 170. 15 more pounds is a lot, you’re either going to have to atart giving up a lot of muscle, or come in super drained.

I'll take his word on it though, if he believes he can make that weight easily, I don't underestimate him. He's the most intelligent guy in the game, and he's honest. I don't doubt what he says.

I think 170 was obviously the best weight for him, and saying he could make 155 easy, but never doing it seems like a bold statement, or exagerration for added effect.

He said this pre-conor, so I don't think there was need for exaggeration. He said their are guys at 155 that walked around at heavier weights than him, and with proper diet and training he could easily make it. Khabib for example walks is rumored to walk around 7-12 pounds heavier than GSP between fights. There was talks he walks around at mid 190s, while GSP is mid 180s, and both are the same height.

I don't know what's going to happen, but I wouldn't be shocked if GSP is going to vacate the title shortly, but in the meantime, he is already attempting to cut weight to see if where he is at by New Years, and if challenging Conor is a legitimate idea or if the weight cut isn't going well, and that dream isn't as realistic anymore.

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GSP said his walk around weight is 186

"I'm not a big welterweight," St-Pierre said. "I walk around 187 (pounds). I'm 186, 187 when I wake up in the morning, and I could easily make it (with) a diet, because a lot of lightweights are bigger than me. Welterweight, I don't even talk about it because most of them are bigger than me, of course, and middleweight, they're much bigger than me. But it's not really about size. It's about skills."

RDA said he walks around at 195

“195,” he said, when asked by Ariel Helwani how much he weighs currently. Apparently, however, this rather bulky amount is not due to his looming welterweight debut. instead, this is pretty standard for him between fights. “Usually [this is where I start],” he said. “Usually I get [up to] 200 pounds, but I’ve been training for over a month. Actually, I don’t stop training. I’m always training. But as I trained, I had to diet really hard, because as much as I trained, my body would hold more water. Everything that I ate, my body kept. That’s why I decided to go up a weight [class]. My body holds too much weight.”

Khabib was said to walks around at 190-195ish


Tibau walks around at 190

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Khabib and RDA almost died trying to make that weight. I really doubt RDA is heavier than GSP unless he balloons up with fat, he's noticeably shorter and less long, and I don't think he's any thicker.

Georges might have a lower walk around weight than those guys because he doesn't really get out of shape. Dude always looks like he could make weight that week, lol. Khabib is a terrible example.

I don't think GSP carries much fat outside of camp. That's a ton of water to cut.

I also think if he could have done it "easily" he would have. Easy belt, easy brain damage to avoid, easier paychecks.

[Bernman]

People overvalue walking around + cage weights and undervalue the weight fighters bottom out at due to their height, frame, and musculature. GSP would probably have to take years to mellow out on the weight training to healthily make 155, and then his style would take a hit (when has he not been muscular?). It's a no-go.

[CPT]

I feel like anything GSP has ever said about being able to make 155 was only to further his "I'm a small welterweight" narrative.

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^^ Yea, he pretty much only busted out the 155 talk when people asked him if he was planning on fighting at 185.

[Nemesis21]

Just watched this card, was out of town that weekend, bought the PPV and recorded it. Pretty good card. Glad to see GSP choke out Bisping!! I think it's the only fight that I have ever cheered for GSP, because I hate Bisping more.

I'd like to see GSP stay at 185 and defend the belt. No interested in GSP vs Conor at 155 or 170. GSP would just be too damn big for him.

Hope to see Joanna back strong!

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I feel like anything GSP has ever said about being able to make 155 was only to further his "I'm a small welterweight" narrative.

So this.

^^ Yea, he pretty much only busted out the 155 talk when people asked him if he was planning on fighting at 185.

And this.

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Anyone listen to Ariel's interview with GSP? There is approximately 0% chance he fights Whitaker, even though he admits that is what his contract calls for. He opportunistically picked off the weakest MW champion since pre-Rich Franklin. Not sure if they just make Whitaker the champ of 185 or what.

[lilfishi22]

It makes sense for Whitaker to be the full champ at 185. He's gone through a murderer's row of contenders to get to the interim belt which to me is more impressive than GSP going through one Bisping to become champ.

I've never for one second thought GSP would stay at 185 to defend. He didn't come back to solidify a claim at 185, he came back to solidify his status as the GOAT.

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Duane doesn't even deny Dillashaw kneed Holdworth in the head on the ground. First he just says he didn't see it, then he says if it happened he didn't see it.

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Listening to a GSP interview yesterday, and though he won't out right say it, but my opinion is there's zero chance he fights at 180 again.
He said he's only fighting now for history, to do things that elevate the sport or never have been done. My first thought when I hear this is three division champ.

He also mentioned not holding onto the belt if he plans to fight at another weight, those guys have families and are looking for pay days and it's not fair for him to hold the title if his plan is not to defend, and he will decide shortly what he plans to do. Class.

My guess, it's Conor or nothing.

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How much money do you want to bet that GSP doesn't fight at 155? I'll put down on that.

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How much money do you want to bet that GSP doesn't fight at 155? I'll put down on that.

One billion dollars!

[Jasen777]

GSP vacates. Whittaker promoted to undisputed champ.