GameBredAPBT wrote:Nemesis21 wrote:GameBredAPBT wrote:
Okay....based upon what, exactly? He's not a better fighter than Cormier. He hasn't beaten better guys than him either. Outside of Ngannou, who is still greener than broccoli, his marquee wins are over old fart has beens with shot chins. Cormier went 5 rounds with Jon freaking Jones & Alex Gustaffson.
Miocic is actually like a poor man's Cormier. Not as good of a wrestler, slightly better boxing, but not better striking for MMA. I don't see how he beats him, unless Cormier shows age out of nowhere.
Moving up to HW isn't as drastic as moving down to 205. If anything, Cormier will come in looking much healthier & replenished.
Stipe - Gonzaga, Hunt, Arlovski, Werdum, Overreem, JDS, Ngannou
DC - Barnett, Big Foot, Mir, Roy / Hendo, Rumble x2 , Silva, Gus, Volkan(last 5 at 205), 2 losses to Bones
You are severely down playing Stipe's resume. I think his stacks up quite well to DC. They 7 big names Stipe went through, are tougher than the 4 big name heavyweights DC went through.
Stipe will have height and length advantage over DC, just like Gus and Jones did. Instead Stipe won't be 205 lbs. Day of fight, Jones and Gus probably around 220-230lbs. Stipe day of fight, 240-250.
Outside of Barnett and Big Foot, Stipe would be the biggest opponent that DC has faced. Except he isn't as slow as the aging latter two and also has better striking then those two.
Just saw the part that I made huge. Are you friggin kidding me?!?! All of DC's big name wins at HW, were old farts. Barnett, Mir, Roy and Big Foot. Are you high?? None of those opponents were in their prime when they fought DC. They were all old and on their way out.
He stacks up to him well, but he's not the superior fighter. The Hunt/Arlovski/Reem/JDS/Gonzaga are all guys who are at the tail ends of their career & are susceptible to losing versus much less fighters than Miocic.
Also, you're a noob. What a load of revisionist crapola. Barnett & Bigfoot when DC fought them were on fire & were considered top 5 HWs. Cormier finished Big Foot without breaking a sweat & beat the dog piss out of what was probably the best version of Barnett we'd seen up until that fight, in one of the best 5 round HW beatdowns in the history of the sport.. In fact, Barnett was never the same after that fight. Mir was 4-2 in his last 6 coming into the Cormier fight. Far from "on the way out". Removed from his prime, but not as much as, say, Overeem or Arlovski was when they fought Miocic. Miocic's title defenses have literally been like a Legends retirement tour, outside of Ngannou who was a hype job.
Cormier is a LOT faster at HW than Miocic is. And he's a far superior grappler. Their striking is about even. Cormier also has a far superior gas tank.
I'm a noob? Been watching MMA pretty consistently for 11 years. But yeah I'm a noob.