Back Alley brawl: Zion vs McGregor who wins?

M4P · Post #1101 » by **M4P** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:45 pm

Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
What about Khabib vs Zion? Who do you think wins that? 5'10, walks around 185-190. Does Zion just out athlete Khabib?

Are you implying that Conor and Khabib have the same skill set? Because Khabib is 1/1, and pretty easily wins that matchup on the street. This comparison is specific to blue belt Zion vs current Conor.

OK while we're making up hypotheticals, say Zion was actually a multiple time ADCC Champ but still had zero striking. How many dozen seconds would it take for big Francis to KO him dead?

sir this thread is about Conor vs Zion in an alleyway. In a vacuum. Empty hand techniques only. Clothed. On concrete. Conor ain't no Ngannou.

Susan · Post #1102 » by **Susan** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:19 pm

M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:Are you implying that Conor and Khabib have the same skill set? Because Khabib is 1/1, and pretty easily wins that matchup on the street. This comparison is specific to blue belt Zion vs current Conor.

OK while we're making up hypotheticals, say Zion was actually a multiple time ADCC Champ but still had zero striking. How many dozen seconds would it take for big Francis to KO him dead?
sir this thread is about Conor vs Zion in an alleyway. In a vacuum. Empty hand techniques only. Clothed. On concrete. Conor ain't no Ngannou.

Listen, you're posting as if you're on the GB but you're in the B&MMA board right now boy and I'll let you in on a little secret, nothing is off limits over here. We might as well be called the NHB board. If you can't handle that, bring your soft underbelly back to the safezone because ADCC Zion would get KTFO by Francis and there's NOTHING you can do about it.

REDDzone · Post #1103 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:23 pm

What if instead of BJJ, Zion trained 6 months SPRAWL training/boxing? Night night Khabib.

M4P · Post #1104 » by **M4P** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:17 am

Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
OK while we're making up hypotheticals, say Zion was actually a multiple time ADCC Champ but still had zero striking. How many dozen seconds would it take for big Francis to KO him dead?
sir this thread is about Conor vs Zion in an alleyway. In a vacuum. Empty hand techniques only. Clothed. On concrete. Conor ain't no Ngannou.

Listen, you're posting as if you're on the GB but you're in the B&MMA board right now boy and I'll let you in on a little secret, nothing is off limits over here. We might as well be called the NHB board. If you can't handle that, bring your soft underbelly back to the safezone because ADCC Zion would get KTFO by Francis and there's NOTHING you can do about it.

but tell me how you really feel Susan. Where did Zion hurt you?

I think it can go either way. If Ngannou can't clip ADCC Zion within the first minute or so, or tried to clinch and gets taken down, he's not getting back up. If Ngannou is just straight sucker punching fools however he's definitely flat lining Zion. You can say the same for probably every ranked HW in the division since they all have knockout power.

M4P · Post #1105 » by **M4P** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:19 am

REDDzone wrote:What if instead of BJJ, Zion trained 6 months SPRAWL training/boxing? Night night Khabib.

Nah Khabib is playing chess while everyone's still playing connect four in terms of mma specific grappling in the gi and no-gi. If you're ever in NorCal after COVID you're more than welcome to drop in at AKA to see yourself. There are levels on levels to this sport that casuals don't see.

Susan · Post #1106 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 2:30 pm

M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:sir this thread is about Conor vs Zion in an alleyway. In a vacuum. Empty hand techniques only. Clothed. On concrete. Conor ain't no Ngannou.

Listen, you're posting as if you're on the GB but you're in the B&MMA board right now boy and I'll let you in on a little secret, nothing is off limits over here. We might as well be called the NHB board. If you can't handle that, bring your soft underbelly back to the safezone because ADCC Zion would get KTFO by Francis and there's NOTHING you can do about it.
but tell me how you really feel Susan. Where did Zion hurt you?

I think it can go either way. If Ngannou can't clip ADCC Zion within the first minute or so, or tried to clinch and gets taken down, he's not getting back up. If Ngannou is just straight sucker punching fools however he's definitely flat lining Zion. You can say the same for probably every ranked HW in the division since they all have knockout power.

You wanna keep goin? I'll dance all day lil man!

OK, who wins in a 1 on 1 basketball game - Khabib or Connor?

Watch on YouTube

M4P · Post #1107 » by **M4P** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:14 pm

Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
Listen, you're posting as if you're on the GB but you're in the B&MMA board right now boy and I'll let you in on a little secret, nothing is off limits over here. We might as well be called the NHB board. If you can't handle that, bring your soft underbelly back to the safezone because ADCC Zion would get KTFO by Francis and there's NOTHING you can do about it.
but tell me how you really feel Susan. Where did Zion hurt you?

I think it can go either way. If Ngannou can't clip ADCC Zion within the first minute or so, or tried to clinch and gets taken down, he's not getting back up. If Ngannou is just straight sucker punching fools however he's definitely flat lining Zion. You can say the same for probably every ranked HW in the division since they all have knockout power.

You wanna keep goin? I'll dance all day lil man!

OK, who wins in a 1 on 1 basketball game - Khabib or Connor?

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Khabib all day. Have you seen Dagestani Basketball?

Susan · Post #1108 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:30 pm

M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:but tell me how you really feel Susan. Where did Zion hurt you?

I think it can go either way. If Ngannou can't clip ADCC Zion within the first minute or so, or tried to clinch and gets taken down, he's not getting back up. If Ngannou is just straight sucker punching fools however he's definitely flat lining Zion. You can say the same for probably every ranked HW in the division since they all have knockout power.

You wanna keep goin? I'll dance all day lil man!

OK, who wins in a 1 on 1 basketball game - Khabib or Connor?

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Khabib all day. Have you seen Dagestani Basketball?

Excuse me, I posted a video of Dagestani Basketball. I've been watching Dagestani Basketball for years, dreaming of what it would be like to fight people while I carried a basketball like a crazy person across the court. You were just a twinkle in your RealGM B&MMA father's eye (cbr is your father btw) when I was first watching Dagestani Basketball.

REDDzone · Post #1109 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 4:20 pm

M4P wrote:
REDDzone wrote:What if instead of BJJ, Zion trained 6 months SPRAWL training/boxing? Night night Khabib.

Nah Khabib is playing chess while everyone's still playing connect four in terms of mma specific grappling in the gi and no-gi. If you're ever in NorCal after COVID you're more than welcome to drop in at AKA to see yourself. There are levels on levels to this sport that casuals don't see.

I've noticed you drop a lot of cliches:

blue is a beginner belt!
purple belts are lifers
playing chess while others are playing checkers
there are LEVELS to this game

Let me guess...you started training bjj after hearing about it on Rogan's podcast. You have 8 months of gi training under your belt and just earned your second stripe on your white belt. Your friends are starting to notice that you now talk A LOT when you guys get together to watch fights, usually explaining to them what the UFC guy SHOULD be doing from his current position.

M4P · Post #1110 » by **M4P** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 5:42 pm

REDDzone wrote:
M4P wrote:
REDDzone wrote:What if instead of BJJ, Zion trained 6 months SPRAWL training/boxing? Night night Khabib.

Nah Khabib is playing chess while everyone's still playing connect four in terms of mma specific grappling in the gi and no-gi. If you're ever in NorCal after COVID you're more than welcome to drop in at AKA to see yourself. There are levels on levels to this sport that casuals don't see.

I've noticed you drop a lot of cliches:

blue is a beginner belt!
purple belts are lifers
playing chess while others are playing checkers
there are LEVELS to this game

Let me guess...you started training bjj after hearing about it on Rogan's podcast. You have 8 months of gi training under your belt and just earned your second stripe on your white belt. Your friends are starting to notice that you now talk A LOT when you guys get together to watch fights, usually explaining to them what the UFC guy SHOULD be doing from his current position.

Lol. Try me then. Ask away or drop in if you're in the Northern Cali area. Rogan is a quack that pumps juice and appeals to middle aged jocks. He is still a net positive for MMA and grappling as a whole though, because if folks like you know about him than the sport as a whole can continue to grow.

- blue is a beginner belt. Not really a cliche but facts. Anyone can get to blue if they stick to it. You can probably get to blue if you gave the sport a try. Are you implying that it's an advanced belt? Because it's really not.
- When someone reaches the level of purple, generally speaking if it's not from a mcdojo, it means that they are capable of demonstrating abstract thought and creativity in the form of setting up moves and finishing. That's why it's considered the first advanced belt, and why the progession from blue to purple usually takes the longest.
- Khabib is levels above everyone. He's just as dangerous off his back as he is on his feet. No other ranked fighter is at that level of mma specific grappling. They are either a specialist and can't take punches, or they can't effectively wrestle and control positions while getting hit. Khabib can do that with or without a gi. That is quite literally like comparing playing chess to connect 4.
- are you denying that there aren't? Grappling is a cumulative sport that is still in its infancy and evolving. New positions are still being invented and explored to this day.

What makes this sport so great is that you can literally prove everything you're saying hands on or in person. Every day in the gym is akin to a lab because you're actively pressure testing ideas and concepts. If you're a skeptic and you think everything I'm saying is from a JRE podcast then go see for yourself. Join a gym in your area and just observe if you're worried about getting hurt. Grappling is one of the few sports, like soccer/football, where the financial barriers for entry aren't as high as something like golf or cycling, and anyone can try and reach a relatively high level. It's also one of the few sports where you can tell right away whether or not someone is full of it or are straight bsing from behind the screen. Go train.

REDDzone · Post #1111 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 6:37 pm

...sooooo, two stripe white or no?

M4P · Post #1112 » by **M4P** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 6:47 pm

REDDzone wrote:...sooooo, two stripe white or no?

Nah it's been a while since white. Sounds like you gave up before even starting though.

Dupp · Post #1113 » by **Dupp** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 6:52 pm

This thread is aids

Susan · Post #1114 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:08 pm

Dupp wrote:This thread is aids

This thread needs to be stickied to the top.

Susan · Post #1115 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:08 pm

M4P wrote:
REDDzone wrote:
M4P wrote:Nah Khabib is playing chess while everyone's still playing connect four in terms of mma specific grappling in the gi and no-gi. If you're ever in NorCal after COVID you're more than welcome to drop in at AKA to see yourself. There are levels on levels to this sport that casuals don't see.

I've noticed you drop a lot of cliches:

blue is a beginner belt!
purple belts are lifers
playing chess while others are playing checkers
there are LEVELS to this game

Let me guess...you started training bjj after hearing about it on Rogan's podcast. You have 8 months of gi training under your belt and just earned your second stripe on your white belt. Your friends are starting to notice that you now talk A LOT when you guys get together to watch fights, usually explaining to them what the UFC guy SHOULD be doing from his current position.

Lol. Try me then. Ask away or drop in if you're in the Northern Cali area. Rogan is a quack that pumps juice and appeals to middle aged jocks. He is still a net positive for MMA and grappling as a whole though, because if folks like you know about him than the sport as a whole can continue to grow.

- blue is a beginner belt. Not really a cliche but facts. Anyone can get to blue if they stick to it. You can probably get to blue if you gave the sport a try. Are you implying that it's an advanced belt? Because it's really not.
- When someone reaches the level of purple, generally speaking if it's not from a mcdojo, it means that they are capable of demonstrating abstract thought and creativity in the form of setting up moves and finishing. That's why it's considered the first advanced belt, and why the progession from blue to purple usually takes the longest.
- Khabib is levels above everyone. He's just as dangerous off his back as he is on his feet. No other ranked fighter is at that level of mma specific grappling. They are either a specialist and can't take punches, or they can't effectively wrestle and control positions while getting hit. Khabib can do that with or without a gi. That is quite literally like comparing playing chess to connect 4.
- are you denying that there aren't? Grappling is a cumulative sport that is still in its infancy and evolving. New positions are still being invented and explored to this day.

What makes this sport so great is that you can literally prove everything you're saying hands on or in person. Every day in the gym is akin to a lab because you're actively pressure testing ideas and concepts. If you're a skeptic and you think everything I'm saying is from a JRE podcast then go see for yourself. Join a gym in your area and just observe if you're worried about getting hurt. Grappling is one of the few sports, like soccer/football, where the financial barriers for entry aren't as high as something like golf or cycling, and anyone can try and reach a relatively high level. It's also one of the few sports where you can tell right away whether or not someone is full of it or are straight bsing from behind the screen. Go train.

I'd choke u out, gi or no-gi idgaf.

REDDzone · Post #1116 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:26 pm

Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:
REDDzone wrote:
I've noticed you drop a lot of cliches:

blue is a beginner belt!
purple belts are lifers
playing chess while others are playing checkers
there are LEVELS to this game

Let me guess...you started training bjj after hearing about it on Rogan's podcast. You have 8 months of gi training under your belt and just earned your second stripe on your white belt. Your friends are starting to notice that you now talk A LOT when you guys get together to watch fights, usually explaining to them what the UFC guy SHOULD be doing from his current position.

Lol. Try me then. Ask away or drop in if you're in the Northern Cali area. Rogan is a quack that pumps juice and appeals to middle aged jocks. He is still a net positive for MMA and grappling as a whole though, because if folks like you know about him than the sport as a whole can continue to grow.

- blue is a beginner belt. Not really a cliche but facts. Anyone can get to blue if they stick to it. You can probably get to blue if you gave the sport a try. Are you implying that it's an advanced belt? Because it's really not.
- When someone reaches the level of purple, generally speaking if it's not from a mcdojo, it means that they are capable of demonstrating abstract thought and creativity in the form of setting up moves and finishing. That's why it's considered the first advanced belt, and why the progession from blue to purple usually takes the longest.
- Khabib is levels above everyone. He's just as dangerous off his back as he is on his feet. No other ranked fighter is at that level of mma specific grappling. They are either a specialist and can't take punches, or they can't effectively wrestle and control positions while getting hit. Khabib can do that with or without a gi. That is quite literally like comparing playing chess to connect 4.
- are you denying that there aren't? Grappling is a cumulative sport that is still in its infancy and evolving. New positions are still being invented and explored to this day.

What makes this sport so great is that you can literally prove everything you're saying hands on or in person. Every day in the gym is akin to a lab because you're actively pressure testing ideas and concepts. If you're a skeptic and you think everything I'm saying is from a JRE podcast then go see for yourself. Join a gym in your area and just observe if you're worried about getting hurt. Grappling is one of the few sports, like soccer/football, where the financial barriers for entry aren't as high as something like golf or cycling, and anyone can try and reach a relatively high level. It's also one of the few sports where you can tell right away whether or not someone is full of it or are straight bsing from behind the screen. Go train.

I'd choke u out, gi or no-gi idgaf.

If you guys are gonna roll, then whatever, just roll. I would like to ask you in advance to NOT make a thread dedicated to him though. I don't think he's done anything to deserve that bad karma.

REDDzone · Post #1117 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:40 pm

M4P wrote:
REDDzone wrote:...sooooo, two stripe white or no?

Nah it's been a while since white. Sounds like you gave up before even starting though.

Okay, if true then good for you. It just comes off as that uniquely white belt combo of arrogance+ignorance when you come from the General Board to the MMA board and call us casuals and talk about how we don't train. There are posters here who have been on this board for over a decade, and many of us do train various martial arts, believe it or not.

Also, the fact that you mention training at AKA makes me suspect this entire thread has more to do with hating Conor than truly believing that NBA players can beat UFC fighters in fights.

Susan · Post #1118 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:48 pm

REDDzone wrote:
Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:Lol. Try me then. Ask away or drop in if you're in the Northern Cali area. Rogan is a quack that pumps juice and appeals to middle aged jocks. He is still a net positive for MMA and grappling as a whole though, because if folks like you know about him than the sport as a whole can continue to grow.

- blue is a beginner belt. Not really a cliche but facts. Anyone can get to blue if they stick to it. You can probably get to blue if you gave the sport a try. Are you implying that it's an advanced belt? Because it's really not.
- When someone reaches the level of purple, generally speaking if it's not from a mcdojo, it means that they are capable of demonstrating abstract thought and creativity in the form of setting up moves and finishing. That's why it's considered the first advanced belt, and why the progession from blue to purple usually takes the longest.
- Khabib is levels above everyone. He's just as dangerous off his back as he is on his feet. No other ranked fighter is at that level of mma specific grappling. They are either a specialist and can't take punches, or they can't effectively wrestle and control positions while getting hit. Khabib can do that with or without a gi. That is quite literally like comparing playing chess to connect 4.
- are you denying that there aren't? Grappling is a cumulative sport that is still in its infancy and evolving. New positions are still being invented and explored to this day.

What makes this sport so great is that you can literally prove everything you're saying hands on or in person. Every day in the gym is akin to a lab because you're actively pressure testing ideas and concepts. If you're a skeptic and you think everything I'm saying is from a JRE podcast then go see for yourself. Join a gym in your area and just observe if you're worried about getting hurt. Grappling is one of the few sports, like soccer/football, where the financial barriers for entry aren't as high as something like golf or cycling, and anyone can try and reach a relatively high level. It's also one of the few sports where you can tell right away whether or not someone is full of it or are straight bsing from behind the screen. Go train.

I'd choke u out, gi or no-gi idgaf.

If you guys are gonna roll, then whatever, just roll. I would like to ask you in advance to NOT make a thread dedicated to him though. I don't think he's done anything to deserve that bad karma.

I think I'm going to make a thread about Dagestani Basketball on the GB and see if I can come together with a starting 5.

Susan · Post #1119 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 8:20 pm

DC is a Rockets fan, he trains at AKA and is a massive Khabib fan.

What if this was actually DC and I just signed my deathwish by saying I'd sub him? Thankfully I'm pretty sure I can run away from his big ass.

Post #1120 » by **Headliner** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 12:12 am

M4P wrote:
Susan wrote:
M4P wrote:Are you implying that Conor and Khabib have the same skill set? Because Khabib is 1/1, and pretty easily wins that matchup on the street. This comparison is specific to blue belt Zion vs current Conor.

OK while we're making up hypotheticals, say Zion was actually a multiple time ADCC Champ but still had zero striking. How many dozen seconds would it take for big Francis to KO him dead?
sir this thread is about Conor vs Zion in an alleyway. In a vacuum. Empty hand techniques only. Clothed. On concrete. Conor ain't no Ngannou.

So if it’s strictly Zion vs Conor in an alley, Where the hell did the ‘give Zion 6 months to train’ come to play?

Are you ceding that current Zion dies by 1 feint, and Jab to the jaw?

Who wins the fight? Zion or McGregor