UFC 259 3/6/21

Dupp · Post #101 » by **Dupp** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 12:27 pm

brutalitops wrote:Israel won the second, thats about it

Great card. Petr Yan you **** dork.

Two judges gave izzy the third.

But that 10-8 round was dumb. Need to somehow have clarity about the 10-8 scoring because that seemed no where near a 10-8, even as clear as it was jan won the round.

Post #102 » by **Headliner** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 12:46 pm

After 6 years in the ufc and being highly touted, can the ufc give Islam a fight against someone who isn’t lesser ranked and is blah, like Dober? Islam is ranked 14th, Get the guy a fight with a top 15 fighter already instead of unranked guys, he looks good.

He called out Tony, that’s a pretty massive jump from Dobber but at least he’S ranked so I’ll take it!

Susan · Post #103 » by **Susan** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:17 pm

Nunes is stupid good. That submission was so gnarly and dominant.

cowboyronnie · Post #104 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:59 pm

Won't someone please call out how **** bad Serra-Longo are at coaching? I actually like Longo a lot as a human being. But this old school **** is idiotic. His advice to Aljo after round 3 was to "stop being lazy". Dude, the strategy you have given him is to come out like a house on fire. (Despite what the commentary said, that was not Aljo behaving nervously. They had planned to keep Yan "confused" with activity.) He can't throw flying knees and spinning elbows and takedowns for 5 rounds.

Note that in Aljo's biggest win, against Sandhagen, he was operating out of another gym. (Longo couldn't coach cos of covid .)

cowboyronnie · Post #105 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 4:02 pm

A dimension of these DQs is that Aljo just took brain damage. This is life-damaging stuff. Yan should have to earn his way back, he badly hurt Aljo with a cheap shot. Forget immediate re-match.

Jasen777 · Post #106 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:22 pm

Dupp wrote:Interesting and appears I’m wrong. I’ll watch again.

It's not necessarily that simple as the raw total of significant strikes. Most obviously round 3 Izzy did land more strikes but many of them were not considered significant strikes. I assume those were the clinch strikes when Jan had him against the cage (everything at distance is automatically "significant") but they were enough to cause Jan to give up the position so they had a real fight impact.

I did think Izzy was throwing (if not landing much more if any) so I guess the commentary got to me too.

Dupp · Post #107 » by **Dupp** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 7:17 pm

Sterling getting a lot of crap online for acting. From fighters too.

REDDzone · Post #108 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 7:23 pm

I thought Aljo played it up tbh. But he 100% had to. There is NO WAY he should have continued after that or even have been allowed to continue. But if he didn't look like he was going to end up on a stretcher, then he would have gotten sh*t for not fighting on after being concussed. He was in an absolute no win situation and should have been protected from himself.

I don't blame Aljo one bit if he did "act" a little bit. That was a real shot that he took real damage from. No way he comes back from that and wins that fight. We need to get past this mentality.

Jasen777 · Post #109 » by **Jasen777** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 7:40 pm

REDDzone wrote:I thought Aljo played it up tbh. But he 100% had to. There is NO WAY he should have continued after that or even have been allowed to continue. But if he didn't look like he was going to end up on a stretcher, then he would have gotten sh*t for not fighting on after being concussed. He was in an absolute no win situation and should have been protected from himself.

I don't blame Aljo one bit if he did "act" a little bit. That was a real shot that he took real damage from. No way he comes back from that and wins that fight. We need to get past this mentality.

Blame the guy who quite clearly fouled and after being warned by the ref no less.

No one is like "Yes I know Fitzpatrick almost had his neck broken via facemask and that puts them in position to kick the winning field goal, but they really out to decline the penalty".

ItsDanger · Post #110 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 9:59 pm

Should put to rest any talk of Izzy vs Jones ever happening. That narrative is done.

Post #111 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 10:07 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Should put to rest any talk of Izzy vs Jones ever happening. That narrative is done.

Another thing with the Jon Jones fight, Jon would be the first guy Izzy wouldnt have a reach advantage over (even reach with Rob Wilkinson). Izzy has an 80" reach while Jon has an 84" reach. That would be hard for him to overcome because a big part of his striking is using that reach to his advantage.

But the bigger thing is, look at how easy Blachowicz took Izzy down and Izzy had no idea how to get back to his feet and Jan was able to get to half guard and side control with ease. Izzy would have to KO Jon in one punch pretty much because if Jon gets in trouble he would just take Izzy down with ease and Izzy would have no chance to handle Jon on the ground.

darmani · Post #112 » by **darmani** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:13 am

primecougar wrote:Man commentary made people thing izzy was up. A good case could be made that he lost every single round. Be was out struck in every round. idk what izzy did to make people think that 49-45 wasn't fair

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/m00gqy/spoiler_biased_commentary_during_last_nights_main/

REDDzone · Post #113 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 2:10 pm

Izzy is just too light in the *ss tbh.

jimmybones · Post #114 » by **jimmybones** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 3:53 pm

The Rogan bias towards Izzy was nuts. I'm not as into MMA as I used to be so I'm somewhat of a casual fan, I had no vested interest in either fighter and to me it really jumped out.

Jasen777 · Post #115 » by **Jasen777** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:33 am

Megan Anderson's contract expired and will not be renewed by the UFC.

Dupp · Post #116 » by **Dupp** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:35 am

Jasen777 wrote:Megan Anderson's contract expired and will not be renewed by the UFC.

Weird having people go from title shots to no contract

cowboyronnie · Post #117 » by **cowboyronnie** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm

Her contract ran out, I dont see anything about refusing to re sign.

Definitely one of the worst fighters to ever fight for a title. A woman that size is simply not going to get pushed in sparring. She was not prepared for that kind of aggression over her jab.

Post #118 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:31 pm

Dupp wrote:
Jasen777 wrote:Megan Anderson's contract expired and will not be renewed by the UFC.

Weird having people go from title shots to no contract

I mean what would be the point of resigning her? Its clear the UFC has no plans with a 145 womens division, they only are doing that to keep Amanda from retiring and keep her happy. Hell look at the UFC rankings on UFC.com, the 145 pound ranking is literally Amanda Nunes and thats it.

cowboyronnie · Post #119 » by **cowboyronnie** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:14 pm

I hope they fold it. Spencer and Anderson going to PFL to face Harrison would be fine. If we can't have Kayla in the UFC, may as well have the UFC come to her.

That said, Anderson is sorta the worst. Lost to Holm, subbed some random Brazilian, lost to Spencer, hit Cat Zingano in the eye with a toe, subbed some random Brazilian, looked like a day-one novice against Nunes. She got a title shot from 2 mediocre wins, 2 distinct losses to B+ fighters, and a toe-in-the-eye. Shut that division.

AirCanadaMouse · Post #120 » by **AirCanadaMouse** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:51 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:I hope they fold it. Spencer and Anderson going to PFL to face Harrison would be fine. If we can't have Kayla in the UFC, may as well have the UFC come to her.

That said, Anderson is sorta the worst. Lost to Holm, subbed some random Brazilian, lost to Spencer, hit Cat Zingano in the eye with a toe, subbed some random Brazilian, looked like a day-one novice against Nunes. She got a title shot from 2 mediocre wins, 2 distinct losses to B+ fighters, and a toe-in-the-eye. Shut that division.

I mean, she's not UFC calibre, but discrediting her win against Cat is really reaching for the sake of you listing more things there.

She literally threw a kick and it caught Cat. A legit strike and a legit win. There is zero to discredit there and I don't get why people try to take that fight away as if it should be anything less than a TKO.

A toe in the eye is not illegal, in fact, just pulling that off is really hard to do...

The 145 division doesn't belong in the UFC, but you don't need to reach as hard as you are to prove this point.