Boxing Thread 5

[Butch718]

I don't even know about the money thing. Are casuals excited about this x3 against GGG? It's going to be a strong PPV?

Then again, it's not like anyone outside of NYC/Texas knows Charlo...who hasn't fought a name (a name with under 9 syllables) in 6 years and is coming off exciting wins against...someone named Juan Macias Montiel (a UD lol) and Dennis Hogan and Bryan Adams.

Fight *neither* of these dudes.

GGG is still a bigger draw than anyone else at 168 or 160. It’s also an easier fight to sell and promote to the general public. That’s easy guaranteed money for Canelo.

I have heard a lot of even just moderate boxing fans bawk at it. And EVERY hardcore fan. *Everyone* who knows boxing hates this. I've seen some big names in the media say they wouldn't even bother watching it (like Shawn Porter).

If you lose every serious boxing fan, a significant number of casuals will follow. This isn't a Jake Paul fight where casuals might independently get into it because of personalities. These are two unbelievably boring dudes (out of the ring) and actual boxing fans do not want to see fight again. I don't think it will do numbers.

A fight against Benevidez would be bigger. Every PPV buyer, hardcore to casual, would get hyped for that. The violence of it would be nuts. Their combined highlights are a hellscape of dudes getting **** crushed.

lol casuals and hardcore boxing fans will watch this all the same. I’ve heard that **** about so many fights in the past. This fight is going to sell and I’d put money on how confident I am about that. People love to complain, but they end up watching dog **** anyway.

Also, for the record I do not want to see a third fight. I’d rather see Canelo vs Charlo or Benevidez. But to even suggest that either would outsell GGG is a biased POV based off one’s personal feelings. GGG is a proven attraction. Benevidez and Charlo do not have that name recognition outside of the boxing community. Sure fans like you and I know who these fighters are, but the general public really doesn’t. Neither had the HBO machine marketing them either, which GGG benefited from earlier in his career. Charlo should be a bigger name but PBC and Showtime’s machine is not as effective as HBO.

[Papi_swav]

Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis ? who ya got? Or Ryan vs Haney? I think Ryan Garcia loses both

[cowboyronnie]

Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis ? who ya got? Or Ryan vs Haney? I think Ryan Garcia loses both

Yeah, he'd get tooled up. Does he seriously want those fights? I don't think he does.

[Butch718]

Ryan loses against Tank, Teo, Haney, Loma or
any other serious contender.

[Papi_swav]

Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis ? who ya got? Or Ryan vs Haney? I think Ryan Garcia loses both

Yeah, he'd get tooled up. Does he seriously want those fights? I don't think he does.

i don't think so either. And de La Hoya is scared too

[Knickfan1982]

Ryan loses against Tank, Teo, Haney, Loma or
any other serious contender.

I think he's got the natural gifts to be a threat but I wonder about his mental strength.

[Butch718]

Ryan loses against Tank, Teo, Haney, Loma or
any other serious contender.

I think he's got the natural gifts to be a threat but I wonder about his mental strength.

He’d be lucky to be this generation’s Amir Khan.

[cowboyronnie]

He does seem to be aggressively calling out Tank. Is it because he knows Tank's on some Haymon ****, and unwilling to take any risks? I actually tend to think Garcia is sincere. This is an aggressive bluff, otherwise.

[Butch718]

AJ’s outburst was the boxing equivalent of Kanye/Swift. Just bizarre.

[BlackThought]

AJ’s outburst was the boxing equivalent of Kanye/Swift. Just bizarre.

I'm actually quite concerned about AJ. AJ has taken a lot of heavy shots to the head over the years. Took a huge punch from Wlad, got rocked by Whyte, and Ruiz flattened him. Hopefully he retires or at least take a year off and get some help.

[Knickfan1982]

AJ’s outburst was the boxing equivalent of Kanye/Swift. Just bizarre.

They still plan on running him out this December. I imagine Derek Chisora gets the call. I honestly cannot believe they haven't fought already considering Chisora has pretty much fought every other top heavyweight.

[Butch718]

Bring on Usyk/Fury or Usyk/Wilder.

Need to see some fresh matchups.

[Knickfan1982]

Bring on Usyk/Fury or Usyk/Wilder.

Need to see some fresh matchups.

Usyk probably boxes Wilder's ears off but if anyone has the power to change a fight with one punch its Deontay.

[cowboyronnie]

Usyk-Wilder is interesting cos of Wilder's right hand.

But Fury smushes Usyk. If orthodox, muscle-bound, finesse-less Joshua can pressure Usyk (like in round 9 on Saturday), Fury will finish him in 3.

It should happen. But I'm not that excited by any drama given that the outcome doesn't seem in doubt. Fury is so crafty, and has all the big man skills that Joshua lacks.

[Knickfan1982]

Anyone catch the Commey vs. Pedraza fight. I know the results but I DVRed it and want to make sure its not a stinker.

[Papi_swav]

Anyone catch the Commey vs. Pedraza fight. I know the results but I DVRed it and want to make sure its not a stinker.

I seen it , fell asleep in the 8th round, woke up and it was a draw. Boring boring fight, I think Commey actually won the fight. Don't even bother watching it, it was a stinker.

[Papi_swav]

AJ’s outburst was the boxing equivalent of Kanye/Swift. Just bizarre.

They still plan on running him out this December. I imagine Derek Chisora gets the call. I honestly cannot believe they haven't fought already considering Chisora has pretty much fought every other top heavyweight.

AJ and Wilder's promoters dropped the ball big time. They should of fought years ago before Ruiz spanked AJ. That was the big money fight! they both probably would of got a 100M each in that fight especially if they fought in London. Bro that would of been one of the biggest heavyweight fights that is must see TV. But AJ is trash, he's just big. And Wilder only has one punch. Whatever

[Papi_swav]

Just finished the Ruiz-Ortiz fight. Great fight ! Ruiz is a warrior and I'm interested to who he'll fight next. Ortiz is a warrior too but dude is 43 years old.

Ohh and Isaac Cruz is a tough cookie. Dude will give anybody in the 135 division a tough fight. I hope he gets a rematch with Tank Davis but Tank is too scared. He will put on a good show no matter who he fights.

[Knickfan1982]

AJ’s outburst was the boxing equivalent of Kanye/Swift. Just bizarre.

They still plan on running him out this December. I imagine Derek Chisora gets the call. I honestly cannot believe they haven't fought already considering Chisora has pretty much fought every other top heavyweight.

AJ and Wilder's promoters dropped the ball big time. They should of fought years ago before Ruiz spanked AJ. That was the big money fight! they both probably would of got a 100M each in that fight especially if they fought in London. Bro that would of been one of the biggest heavyweight fights that is must see TV. But AJ is trash, he's just big. And Wilder only has one punch. Whatever

Just one example of a million different instances in which egos get in the way of making the best fights happen. It would still be a big fight but it would pale in comparison to what it could have been. I think Wilder smashes Joshua to be honest. He just has the one punch as you said but the Fury fights shows he carries that power late into the fight. I think Fury is probably the only guy capable of taking that shot and getting back up.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/ufc/article/jake-paul-to-face-ufc-legend-anderson-silva-in-boxing-match-on-oct-29/

Interesting