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UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:49 pm
by Clav
Full fight card and time --
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/116669-ufc-309

SATURDAY night early prelims 6PM EST/3PM PST - main card 10PM EST / 7PM PST

Spoiler:
Jon Jones vs. Stipe Miocic
265 lbs

C. Oliveira vs. M. Chandler
155 lbs

Bo Nickal vs. Paul Craig
185 lbs

Karine Silva vs. Viviane Araujo
125 lbs

Mauricio Ruffy vs. James Llontop
155 lbs

J. Martinez vs. Marcus McGhee
135 lbs

Chris Weidman vs. Eryk Anders
185 lbs

Jim Miller vs. Damon Jackson
155 lbs

Roberto Romero vs. David Onama
145 lbs

Marcin Tybura vs. Jhonata Diniz
265 lbs

Mickey Gall vs. Ramiz Brahimaj
170 lbs

Oban Elliott vs. Bassil Hafez
170 lbs

Veronica Hardy vs. Eduarda Moura
125 lbs



My thoughts here are basically... yeah, mildly interested to not really interested even though it is some of the biggest names in the HW division :lol: I'm more interested in the co-main and other bouts.

I'm a firm believer that the lineal champ (Ngannou) and current Interim champ (Aspinall) are the HWs that should be fighting, but alas, it's not gonna happen. Thankfully Aspinall is the backup for this fight because Francis' and Dana's hatred for each other has pushed Ngannou to the PFL to limited success (heard the Renan/Francis fight didn't do well on PPV buys btw so PFL and Bellator might be a dying brand, we'll see). We get 3-years away from fighting Miocic, who is way past his prime and suffering from CTE when he speaks, and constant rule breaker Jones who is recovering from pec tear. Can't see Stipe winning, he'll retire after and Jones can call out Poatan and continue to duck Tom. [BTW basketball related, Stipe is a huge Cavs fan]

Anyway, rest of the card is cool except for a legacy appearance for Weidman. Chandler shirks McGregor (but still has a contract to fight him later) and has to deal with the grappling of 'do Bronx'. Picking Charles in this one again, I have a lot of faith in his game and he beat Chandler already. Could be a great performance though so I'm mega interested in this one.

Meanwhile, Karine Silva (I think she will be a future women's flyweight champ) is on the card, and grapplers Nikal/Craig face off. Jim Miller and Weidman are also on main card and are there to help the PPV card.

Sneaky Fights to watch:: Jonathan Martinez and Marcus McGhee -- could be an explosive bantamweight scrap. These guys are on the up and up.
HM: Karine Silva and Viviane Aruajo -- I love Silva's striking and ground game. Brazil v Brazil, picking a decision for her, but by dominant fashion.


Sneaky fights to avoid:: Weidman/Anders -- feels like low end of the card even if Weidman is like a UFC staple. His last fight he basically intentionally eye poked his way out and Anders is a has-been. Not interested at all and it could be a poor performance.
HM: Romero v Onama -- late addition fight probably will be a KO but shouldn't be competitive. Onama should be a massive favorite.

Final thoughts ? Not the matchup I wanted, but will be interested in how it plays out. I will be gutted if both Jones and Miocic retire. I'd like to see the latter hang'em up, and I'd like to see Bones call out Aspinall, not Pereira. I'm pro-Oliveira, so rooting for him, I really couldn't care less about Chandler's career prospects, I like the technical supremacy do Bronx displays in grappling. Jones should dominate. My predictions are below:

Spoiler:
Jones | Submission | Round 2
Oliveira | Submission | Round 1
Nickal | KO/TKO | Round 1
Silva | Decision
Ruffy | KO/TKO | Round 1
Martinez | Decision
Weidman | Decision
Miller | Submission | Round 1
Onama | KO/TKO | Round 1
Diniz | KO/TKO | Round 2
Brahimaj | Decision
Elliott | Decision
Hardy | Decision

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 12:09 am
by Clav
I'd grin a funny grin if Stipe won and retired on the spot. Jones is spinning like a washing machine at his presser

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:07 pm
by Reeko
"I only want legacy fights. Tom Aspinall hasn't done enough in this sport" - Jon Jones

"I want to fight for fun, I want to fight a guy like Derrick Lewis." - Jon Jones

"Tom's being mean to me, I don't want to do business with him." - Jon Jones

This is your GOAT?

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:58 pm
by Clav
Reeko wrote:"I only want legacy fights. Tom Aspinall hasn't done enough in this sport" - Jon Jones

"I want to fight for fun, I want to fight a guy like Derrick Lewis." - Jon Jones

"Tom's being mean to me, I don't want to do business with him." - Jon Jones

This is your GOAT?



After all the old heads did for him on his way up, Rua, Rampage, etc. Jones kind of talks and acts like a sociopath. He's my duck! :D

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:26 pm
by jc23
Stipe should of retired. He already shows signs of brain damage.

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:43 pm
by Clav
jc23 wrote:Stipe should of retired. He already shows signs of brain damage.



You know what killed me ? In the UFC Embedded video #4 the editors put subtitles under the words Stipe said :o He should've retired for sure

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:57 am
by GoRapstheoriginal
Great early prelims & prelims so far! Great 1st fight on the main card as well!

Good stuff much better then last nights trashamockery

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:23 am
by Sweet Serenity
Imagine using the same nickname as Mike Tyson & then running away all fight.

Chandler’s an absolutele clown lol

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:26 am
by ItsDanger
Miocic looked slow. Nobody wanted this fight. It's Aspinall that the fans want. But we may never see it.

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:33 am
by Headliner
Jones looked like he was in much much better shape than his heavyweight debut.
His body was kind of pudgy the first time if my memory is correct.

Dude should retire though, he goes down as the goat without debate if he does. If he loses…it’s just pure downside in terms of the conversation.

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:59 pm
by cowboyronnie
Tried to tune in. There was a 10 minute Trump + sycophants walkout. Not even commentary, as the desk stood up to hug and kiss.

Shut up and dribble (someone's skull), amirite?

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:08 am
by NO-KG-AI
cowboyronnie wrote:Tried to tune in. There was a 10 minute Trump + sycophants walkout. Not even commentary, as the desk stood up to hug and kiss.

Shut up and dribble (someone's skull), amirite?


Dana doesn’t believe in big elaborate walkouts and spectacle for the fighters. Only for his daddy.

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:25 pm
by Shaazzam
cowboyronnie wrote:Tried to tune in. There was a 10 minute Trump + sycophants walkout. Not even commentary, as the desk stood up to hug and kiss.

Shut up and dribble (someone's skull), amirite?

Yeah man, that part made me want to vomit. I totally switched to something else for awhile.

Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:03 pm
by St Knick
I thought the unity and vibes around the event was refreshing, patriotic and joyous!
God bless America! :usa:
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Re: UFC 309 @ MSG -- Jones/Miocic and Chandler/Oliveira

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:48 am
by cowboyronnie
St Knick wrote:I thought the unity and vibes around the event was refreshing, patriotic and joyous!
God bless America! :usa:
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Celebrating mass deportation and the hatred of gender queers brings a certain sort of unity, that's not untrue. A lot of historical precedent proves you right.

'Something' is back!