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With so many cats just owning their divisions these days I was thinking what fighters in the world create the biggest match up problems for the dominating fighters out. My list of "the answers"

Brock?.........Overeem
Fedor?.........Brock
GSP?............Hendo
Silva?............?????
Torres..........??????

IMO...

Fedor...Brock
Brock...Overeem
GSP...Hendo
Silva...Belfort
Torres...Faber at 135
Brown...Edgar at 145 where he belongs

Cammo101 wrote:IMO...

Fedor...Brock
Brock...Overeem
GSP...Hendo
Silva...Belfort
Torres...Faber at 135
Brown...Edgar at 145 where he belongs

Yours is similar to mine, Vitor only has punchers chance against Silva, I see Silva destroying Vitor in the MT clinch ala Franklin, I also cant see Faber getting any off of Torres, Miguel's reach will be way too much for Uriah. I do like the Frankie Edgar at 145 though, Edgar is the real deal and I could deffinatly see him giving Brown a run for his money.

Fedor -> Brock
Brock -> Fedor
GSP -> Shields (Don't want to put Hendo yet until GSP actually makes the move to 185)
Silva -> Mousasi (right answer is noone but gotta go with someone...)
BJ - > KenFlo
Torres -> Kid
Machida -> Rampage (weak I know..)

Torres would tool Kid Yamamoto.

Cammo101 wrote:Torres would tool Kid Yamamoto.

I would have to disagree, especially if Kid is motivated.

SpReEfOrAlL wrote:

Cammo101 wrote:Torres would tool Kid Yamamoto.

I would have to disagree, especially if Kid is motivated.

Kid is a very good fighter, but big time overrated. He just lost to a 1-0 fighter and then got highlight reel KOed in a K-1 fight. The time when he was in a class with Miguel Torres is long gone.

jTF2 wrote:Fedor -> Brock
Brock -> Fedor
GSP -> Shields (Don't want to put Hendo yet until GSP actually makes the move to 185)
Silva -> Mousasi (right answer is noone but gotta go with someone...)
BJ - > KenFlo
Torres -> Kid
Machida -> Rampage (weak I know..)

Everything sounds right except GSP. I think only Silva can stop GSP.

chaldean wrote:

jTF2 wrote:Fedor -> Brock
Brock -> Fedor
GSP -> Shields (Don't want to put Hendo yet until GSP actually makes the move to 185)
Silva -> Mousasi (right answer is noone but gotta go with someone...)
BJ - > KenFlo
Torres -> Kid
Machida -> Rampage (weak I know..)

Everything sounds right except GSP. I think only Silva can stop GSP.

So only the P4P best fighter in the world can stop a guy that Matt freaking Serra knocked out? I find that a bit far fetched.

Personally, I think Hendo has a better shot at beating GSP than Silva.

chaldean wrote:

jTF2 wrote:Fedor -> Brock
Brock -> Fedor
GSP -> Shields (Don't want to put Hendo yet until GSP actually makes the move to 185)
Silva -> Mousasi (right answer is noone but gotta go with someone...)
BJ - > KenFlo
Torres -> Kid
Machida -> Rampage (weak I know..)

Everything sounds right except GSP. I think only Silva can stop GSP.

TBH I think quite a few 185ers could beat GSP at his CURRENT weight... Silva, Hendo, Marquardt, Maia, etc. I'll wait until he actually makes the proper leap to 185 by beating some mid level guys before I start judging him against elite 185lbers.

Cammo101 wrote:Torres would tool Kid Yamamoto.

I admit didn't see his K1 fight until 10secs ago haha. nvm on kid. But I dunno who else is legit in 135 :shrug:

jTF2 wrote:

Cammo101 wrote:Torres would tool Kid Yamamoto.

I admit didn't see his K1 fight until 10secs ago haha. nvm on kid. But I dunno who else is legit in 135 :shrug:

Ueda is tough, but it would likely take a top guy at 145 moving down to beat Torres.

jTF2 wrote:

chaldean wrote:

jTF2 wrote:Fedor -> Brock
Brock -> Fedor
GSP -> Shields (Don't want to put Hendo yet until GSP actually makes the move to 185)
Silva -> Mousasi (right answer is noone but gotta go with someone...)
BJ - > KenFlo
Torres -> Kid
Machida -> Rampage (weak I know..)

Everything sounds right except GSP. I think only Silva can stop GSP.

TBH I think quite a few 185ers could beat GSP at his CURRENT weight... Silva, Hendo, Marquardt, Maia, etc. I'll wait until he actually makes the proper leap to 185 by beating some mid level guys before I start judging him against elite 185lbers.

Now that's certainly an interesting opinion. Mind going a bit more in depth?

I certainly think Silva, Hendo, Marquart, and Franklin could beat GSP.

At 170?

Those 4 guys (and more) are more skilled than him in quite a few areas. Most important area though is size and strength. GSP cuts from 185 to make 170 while guys like Marquardt and Silva cut from 200-210. In addition to size silva is better than GSP in striking and possibly BJJ. Marquardt and Hendo are atleast equal in wrestling to GSP but they're stronger so GSP's wrestling is nullified. Now, alot of this is simply conjecture just based on the fact that they're all 20lbs bigger than him and I have to naturally assume they should be stronger than GSP.

Maia is a whole different animal. Just as GSP's skillset is overwhelming in one area.. wrestling. Maia's is overwhelming in another. I have no idea how the fight would go... certainly would be rooting for GSP but I think he has a good chance of losing because he's never faced what I consider the best fighter who uses bjj effectively in mma.

Now if GSp makes the proper weight gain and his strenght increases without any hindrance to his speed and stamina then he'll wreck everyone regardless of elite striking, bjj or equal wrestling.