UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy

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UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#1 » by Posey H8er » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:13 pm

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Date: March 27, 2010
Venue: Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey

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Main Card
Welterweight Championship bout: Georges St. Pierre (c) vs. Dan Hardy
Interim Heavyweight Championship bout: Frank Mir vs. Shane Carwin
Welterweight bout: Ben Saunders vs. Jake Ellenberger
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Lightweight bout: Jim Miller vs. Mark Bocek

Spike TV Card
Welterweight bout: Nate Diaz vs. Rory Markham
Welterweight bout: Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Brown

Preliminary Card
Lightweight bout: Kurt Pellegrino vs. Fabricio Camoes
Light Heavyweight bout: Rodney Wallace vs. Jared Hamman
Middleweight bout: Rousimar Palhares vs. Tomasz Drwal
Welterweight bout: Matthew Riddle vs. Greg Soto
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#2 » by sh00n » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:01 pm

I'm still trying to get over how bad that poster is. FFS Mir, stop checking out Carwin's pecks.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#3 » by CapeCrusader » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:45 pm

This is a second string of good cards...starting from 110 to 113. Hopefully its not GSP's last fight.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#4 » by 2009NBAChamps » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:00 am

Why would it be GSP's last fight?
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#5 » by Posey H8er » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:05 am

2009NBAChamps wrote:Why would it be GSP's last fight?

He has said he may want to wrestle in the 2012 Olympics. Doing so would require to take a lot of time off. I doubt he does it though.
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Post#6 » by The Flying Gent » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:46 am

I don't think it's very likely. He and some of the people around him have all said that the story was pretty overblown and the chances that he dose pursue the Olympics are slim.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#7 » by CPT » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:18 am

I think what he was saying was that if he were to try to compete in the Olympics, he would have to take about a year and a half off to train full time in order to properly prepare.

I think he was trying to illustrate why he won't be trying for the Olympics, but some people took it as "GSP is taking a year and a half of to train for the Olympics" and ran with it.

And, yeah, that poster is **** horrible. Hardy looks half asleep, and is holding his fist in about the stupidest way possible.
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Post#8 » by ansoncarter » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:18 am

they should just make mma an olympic sport

and they can't say it's too violent because ancient greeks used to have olympic sports like 'who can stab the most people with a halbert'
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Post#9 » by CapeCrusader » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:26 pm

ansoncarter wrote:they should just make mma an olympic sport

and they can't say it's too violent because ancient greeks used to have olympic sports like 'who can stab the most people with a halbert'


It would be cool, but won't happen.
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Post#10 » by damo[23] » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:05 pm

New match ups for UFC111, including a Saunders/Kampmann fight:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17598/kampman ... relims.mma

A welterweight bout of Martin Kampmann (16-3 MMA, 7-2 UFC) vs. Ben Saunders (8-1-2 MMA, 4-1 UFC) has earned guaranteed TV time.

Additionally, a welterweight bout between Ricardo Funch (7-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC) and Matthew Riddle (3-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC), as well as a 205-pound contest between Rodney Wallace (9-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC) and Jared Hamman (10-2 MMA, 0-1 UFC), are official for the night's preliminary card.


Decent fight for the main card.
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Post#11 » by cowboyronnie » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:01 am

I was wondering what Riddle was up to. This is hardly a test, mind you.

This might be Kampmann's exit from the UFC.
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Post#12 » by spykelee » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:42 am

The Flying Gent wrote:I don't think it's very likely. He and some of the people around him have all said that the story was pretty overblown and the chances that he dose pursue the Olympics are slim.


I think it's alot more likely than you think. I still think in the end that GSP will decide against it, but I can tell you, by virtue of my job, I get to see alot of unaired interviews and such, and I've seen countless interviews with GSP. He has talked very candidly about it being a lifetime goal/dream of his and he knows if he is going to do it, now is the time etc etc. I'm fairly confident he will decline and will stick with MMA, but trust me, this story isn't overblown, it wasn't created by the media or anyone, GSP definetely wants to wrestle in the olympics. I'd put the odds around 65-35 that he stays with the ufc though
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#13 » by CPT » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:21 pm

SpikeTV is going to be doing a 3 part "UFC Primetime" show for this, ala GSP/Penn II.

Interesting that they would choose to bring the show back for this fight, but I guess it makes sense. GSP is already one of the biggest stars in MMA, but people aren't quite sold on Hardy yet, to put it mildly. I think a show like this could create a lot of interest in Hardy, because he has a personality that people are either going to love or hate, and a fairly exciting style (he's usually billed as a brawler or slugger, but I think he fights a lot smarter than that). What I'm getting at is that this show could push this fight from a pretty average main event to one of the biggest fights this year.

I'd actually like to see them do this more often, and maybe pick a fight that doesn't involve GSP for a change. Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort would be a cool one I think, though the language issues could make a 3 part series tough. Rashad vs. Rampage would be another one that could work. And of course, Lesnar vs. (probably) Mir.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#14 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:57 pm

ansoncarter wrote:they should just make mma an olympic sport

and they can't say it's too violent because ancient greeks used to have olympic sports like 'who can stab the most people with a halbert'


MMA will never work as an Olympic sport for a multitude of reasons. And even if it somehow was made one, the UFC would not (and should not) let it's fighters compete, so it would be nothing more than a glorified amateur event.
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Post#15 » by The Flying Gent » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:40 pm

Why don't you think the UFC wouldn't let fighters compete? Dana has said he wished MMA was an Olympic sport and seemed very supportive of it.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#16 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:55 pm

The Flying Gent wrote:Why don't you think the UFC wouldn't let fighters compete? Dana has said he wished MMA was an Olympic sport and seemed very supportive of it.


You really think Dana will allow his best fighters to all leave at the same time and fight for free somewhere else. It would take almost all the good fighters out of commission for at least 6 months and kill the UFC's bottom line.

Why do you think MLB doesn't allow it's players to play?
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Post#17 » by damo[23] » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:33 pm

Actually cammo - its wasn't always that these leagues don't allow them to play, its also in part that it that the Olympics was amateur, some leagues had an easy route to just "keep it that way".

Football is probably the best sport to outline the point that you imply that Dana White will take.

Football teams HATE that their players go off and play international duty. Losing their best players for friendlies / qualifing games mid season is bad enough, but when these players go off to the likes of the world cup and european cups, out there training/playing for 5 or 6 weeks or more, and end up with injuries, the clubs go balastic.

Take Alex Ferguson, its often thought that he comes up with fake reasons not to send his players out "oh he has a pulled hamstring, he'll be out a couple of days".

But Football is the world's biggest sport with a insane revenue from international games, clubs can't get away with that on a large scale. But in a sport where the main "league" is run by a few guys, and a decent portion of the MMA fighters will come from the UFC, I highly doubt they let them go.

HOWEVER, take a boxing stance on it. Use it to help build up these "amateur" fighters, its free exposure for the companies that pick them up. Take Amir Khan, huge in the UK due to his olympic run, highly doubt if he just came out of the amateur circuit to the pro's he'd be as big a hit as he is in the UK right now (no pun intended).

There is a place for it, and a way to do it so that people get the best of both worlds, but I hardly see Dana White letting his GSP's and Penn's go off and take them out of action of a few months.
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Post#18 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:47 pm

It is possible to do, but without the name stars, I doubt many people will even care.

The average Joe could care less about watered down Olympic boxing. MMA, in the Olympics, would involve head gear and all kinds of safety stuff that would take away from the sport.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#19 » by CPT » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:22 pm

Cammo101 wrote:It is possible to do, but without the name stars, I doubt many people will even care.

The average Joe could care less about watered down Olympic boxing. MMA, in the Olympics, would involve head gear and all kinds of safety stuff that would take away from the sport.


This.

Just think about the medical suspensions and other issues that come out of fights under the unified rules. To get guys to fight several times in a few weeks, the rules would need to be so watered down that it wouldn't even be MMA anymore.

I would be more than happy to just get jiu-jitsu/submission grappling in the Olympics, but I think it might already be too late to introduce it at the Olympics in Rio in 2016, which would be the perfect opportunity.
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Re: UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy 

Post#20 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:39 pm

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Cammo101 wrote:It is possible to do, but without the name stars, I doubt many people will even care.

The average Joe could care less about watered down Olympic boxing. MMA, in the Olympics, would involve head gear and all kinds of safety stuff that would take away from the sport.


This.

Just think about the medical suspensions and other issues that come out of fights under the unified rules. To get guys to fight several times in a few weeks, the rules would need to be so watered down that it wouldn't even be MMA anymore.

I would be more than happy to just get jiu-jitsu/submission grappling in the Olympics, but I think it might already be too late to introduce it at the Olympics in Rio in 2016, which would be the perfect opportunity.


I am definitely more for submission grappling than MMA in the Olympics.

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