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Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:27 pm
by El Hardee
I'll start it off..........Grey Maynard?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:45 pm
by REDDzone
Pretender......
EDIT: Junior Dos Santos?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:50 pm
by Cammo101
REDDzone wrote:Pretender......
EDIT: Junior Dos Santos?
Contender.
George Sotiroupolos?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:14 pm
by damo[23]
Contender
Ryan Bader?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:14 am
by jTF2
is there a middle ground? lol
I'll go with contender though.
Dan Hardy?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:42 am
by Nemesis21
Hardy, Pretender . Will be destroyed by GSP
" Rumble Johnson " ?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:01 am
by kdawg32086
Pretender
Jon "Bones" Jones
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:22 am
by Nemesis21
kdawg32086 wrote:Pretender
Jon "Bones" Jones
Soon to be contender
I think Rumble is on his way to being a contender.
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:32 am
by jTF2
kdawg32086 wrote:Pretender
Jon "Bones" Jones
pretender but only a technicality
Chael Sonnen?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:53 am
by CPT
Not to break up the thread, but what constitutes a contender?
A guy with a real shot at beating the champ?
By this criteria, a guy like Jon Fitch would have to be considered a pretender, even though he's universally recognized as the #2 or #3 welterweight in the world. While on the other hand, I think there are some guys (Hardy, Sonnen to use current examples) with decent shots to beat the champs in their divisions, but probably not strong enough overall to maintain a top 5 ranking for years, like Fitch.
A guy who is top 5 in his division and will likely stay there for a long time?
The other side of the above argument, where Fitch would be considered a contender, even though he has no shot at beating GSP, and guys like Hardy and Sonnen would not be.
And with the age/experience level of the guys being discussed, are we talking about their next fight, or whether they could be a contender in the next 5 years?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:46 pm
by damo[23]
I think its meant to be a little bit more "loose" than that, not a strict definition of cotender. Or at least thats how I take it, a bit of fun; is the guy over rated or not going to make it (pretender) or up there already (maybe some consider him over rated, but he's the real deal) or on his way into the "elite" or "higher tiers".
Otherwise it would be more a case of breaking down each fighter.
Trust CPT to get all serious ;P
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:25 pm
by El Hardee
Sonnen=Contender
King Mo
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:16 pm
by Cammo101
El Hardee wrote:Sonnen=Contender
King Mo
Contender in Strikeforce right now. Contender in UFC eventually.
Paulo Thiago?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:09 pm
by REDDzone
Contender IMO until proven otherwise. Has quality wins and his one loss was a decision against Fitch.
Kos?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:10 pm
by Nemesis21
Cammo101 wrote:El Hardee wrote:Sonnen=Contender
King Mo
Contender in Strikeforce right now. Contender in UFC eventually.
Paulo Thiago?
Pretender, He lost to Fitch, would not stand a chance vs GSP, Koscheck would win rematch, doubt he could beat Alves.
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:02 am
by CPT
Koscheck?
Contender.
Thiago?
Contender.
How about....
Diego Sanchez (at WW)
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:12 am
by Cammo101
CPT wrote:How about....
Diego Sanchez (at WW)
Pretender at WW, pretender at LW.
Rory MacDonald?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:34 am
by spykelee
Cammo101 wrote:CPT wrote:How about....
Diego Sanchez (at WW)
Pretender at WW, pretender at LW.
Rory MacDonald?
I'd say future contender but not there quite yet.
Sam Stout?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:02 pm
by CPT
spykelee wrote:Cammo101 wrote:CPT wrote:How about....
Diego Sanchez (at WW)
Pretender at WW, pretender at LW.
Rory MacDonald?
I'd say future contender but not there quite yet.
Sam Stout?
Pretender, for sure.
Sexyama?
Re: Lets play Contender/Pretender?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:35 pm
by El Hardee
Pretender
2010 version of Randy Couture at LHW?