WWE Now, and the HOF in the Future

Starkiller · Post #1 » by **Starkiller** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:01 pm

Is it just me, or by having so many different guys hold belts, and so often, that WWE is basically almost set up to where if you have any type of successful run you're going into the HOF? Let's list current talent, and I'll seperate them by likelihood of entering (I'm going to include guys who may not be in the company but still are active in some way:

Guarantee:

Cena
Triple H
Orton
Rock
Jericho
Big Show
Kane
Undertaker
Batista
Rey
Dudleys
Kevin Nash
Goldust

Strong Probability:

Mark Henry
ADR
Sheamus
Brock
Christian
JBL
Michael Cole
Paul Heyman
Goldberg
CM Punk
Chavo Guerrero
Great Khali

Potentially just not a long enough WWE career yet:

Kofi
Daniel Bryan
Wade Barrett
Bray Wyatt
Jack Swagger
R-Truth
The Miz

Now, before you call me crazy, look at who is already in there. If you are old enough to remember the time period, just about every HOF member was only merely successful at the least. Guys like Koko B Ware I believe are in there? Nikiolai Volkoff, IRS etc...Think about this, what many people consider one of the top 5 of all time, Bret Hart, only held the WWE title what, 5 times? Cena has almost tripled him, Orton, Batista have passed him.

IDK where I'm really going with this, but to me, the HOF just doesn't seem very prestigous. Literally almost everyone gets in. I can't think of anyone on the roster right now, who is in the later or tail end of their career who won't get in. Tensai/Albert maybe? That's about it.

whysoserious · Post #2 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:23 pm

It's not a real Hall of Fame, most of the sports HOF's are no longer that presitgious either. Put up stats or have longevity and you'll pretty much get in.

So if you go by that definition of the HOF is just meant to recognize guys for a variety of reasons and their contributions it's perfectly fine.

There are a few interesting people though that I want to see what WWE does with them. Kurt Angle deserves to be in and I think Vince will put him in. Sting will be interesting to watch and see what happens with. Same with Jeff Jarrett and then Eric Bischoff.

Shocking to me they still haven't inducted Savage and Warrior gets in before him?

Starkiller · Post #3 » by **Starkiller** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:22 pm

Speaking of, has there ever been any real explination why Kurt Angle spent so much of his career (while still being great) in TNA and not in WWE?

whysoserious · Post #4 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:50 pm

Starkiller wrote:Speaking of, has there ever been any real explination why Kurt Angle spent so much of his career (while still being great) in TNA and not in WWE?

From what I can recall, it was simply a matter of him not wanting to be on the road as much and travelling and the WWE schedule. This could be a cover so maybe those that followed it more closely can share.

It's a damn shame cause he was someone with potential to carry the company during the years after Rock and Austin left.

Starkiller · Post #5 » by **Starkiller** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:13 pm

whysoserious wrote:
Starkiller wrote:Speaking of, has there ever been any real explination why Kurt Angle spent so much of his career (while still being great) in TNA and not in WWE?

From what I can recall, it was simply a matter of him not wanting to be on the road as much and travelling and the WWE schedule. This could be a cover so maybe those that followed it more closely can share.

It's a damn shame cause he was someone with potential to carry the company during the years after Rock and Austin left.

Absolutely. Can you imagine some of the wars and the rub he could have given Punk and DB? Whew.

CapeCrusader · Post #6 » by **CapeCrusader** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:39 pm

From what I remember. His ex wife Karen (now Jarrett's wife) didn't like him working for WWE anymore, cause he would always be injured and worked through his matches anyways. He didn't want to disappoint Vince, so he wouldn't tell Vince he was injured unless it was serious.

CapeCrusader · Post #7 » by **CapeCrusader** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:42 pm

whysoserious wrote:It's not a real Hall of Fame, most of the sports HOF's are no longer that presitgious either. Put up stats or have longevity and you'll pretty much get in.

So if you go by that definition of the HOF is just meant to recognize guys for a variety of reasons and their contributions it's perfectly fine.

There are a few interesting people though that I want to see what WWE does with them. Kurt Angle deserves to be in and I think Vince will put him in. Sting will be interesting to watch and see what happens with. Same with Jeff Jarrett and then Eric Bischoff.

Shocking to me they still haven't inducted Savage and Warrior gets in before him?

Jarrett won't be in the Hall, but I don't think he really deserves it either. As for Savage, I think they tried working something out before he passed but Savage wanted to be inducted with his brother and dad. It shows the type of person Savage is by wanting that, but Savage was too good to not be inducted on his own and headlining a year himself.

whysoserious · Post #8 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:47 pm

I don't think Jarret makes it either but if they do count total wrestling career then Jarret maybe deserves it even if I'm not a fan of his.

Considering some of the other names in the HOF, Savage and his brother and dad should be in for sure.

I'd love to see Angle return to the WWE for one final run and then retire followed by a HOF induction eventually.

Sting is probably the most interesting though if he never works for Vince. He should be in but we'll see what VInce does. And i'm no fan of Bischoff but he was a key part of the wrestling business for a long time.

CapeCrusader · Post #9 » by **CapeCrusader** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:04 pm

I dunno about on his own, but I think when they induct the nWo (like they did the Horsemen with JJ) Bischoff should be included with Hall, Nash and Hogan.

whysoserious · Post #10 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:20 pm

CapeCrusader wrote:I dunno about on his own, but I think when they induct the nWo (like they did the Horsemen with JJ) Bischoff should be included with Hall, Nash and Hogan.

Bishcoff for all his faults and screwing up things in WCW at the end was the architect that led the WCW back, that challenged WWE and took over the ratings. He oversaw the company at it's highest point of talent when they had the best mid-card with the cruiserweights and television and US title divisions.

He has his faults and let things fall apart, but in wrestling history, he's an important figure that should be inducted.

This is coming from someone who really isn't a huge fan of his. He was very integral to one of the hottest eras of wrestlinge ever.

Dunthreevy · Post #11 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:04 pm

If Jeff Jarrett ever gets inducted I might puke.

Post #12 » by **studcrackers** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:19 am

Jarrett has a slightly better shot at getting in than Chris Benoit, I don't think it's something you have to worry about

kblo247 · Post #13 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:51 am

whysoserious wrote:
Starkiller wrote:Speaking of, has there ever been any real explination why Kurt Angle spent so much of his career (while still being great) in TNA and not in WWE?

From what I can recall, it was simply a matter of him not wanting to be on the road as much and travelling and the WWE schedule. This could be a cover so maybe those that followed it more closely can share.

It's a damn shame cause he was someone with potential to carry the company during the years after Rock and Austin left.

Kurt refused rehab if you remember. He was sent to ecw and was one of many on that roster who got busted for drugs (RVD, Sabu, Balls, Test, Axl). They wanted him to go to rehab after his suspension much like they wanted Booker to go when he was suspended after the match with Triple H. They were released after their refusal (same with test, carlito, and umaga).

Kurt was in a bad place and let's be real tna let him take whatever the hell he wanted much like Jeff Hardy. He probably would have stayed had they not said go to rehab or leave, probably would've been dead too with that schedule and whatever he was on plus his affinity for alcohol

kblo247 · Post #14 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:53 am

whysoserious wrote:
CapeCrusader wrote:I dunno about on his own, but I think when they induct the nWo (like they did the Horsemen with JJ) Bischoff should be included with Hall, Nash and Hogan.

Bishcoff for all his faults and screwing up things in WCW at the end was the architect that led the WCW back, that challenged WWE and took over the ratings. He oversaw the company at it's highest point of talent when they had the best mid-card with the cruiserweights and television and US title divisions.

He has his faults and let things fall apart, but in wrestling history, he's an important figure that should be inducted.

This is coming from someone who really isn't a huge fan of his. He was very integral to one of the hottest eras of wrestlinge ever.

I think Eric and Heyman should go in together alongside Vince. The golden era of wrestling and the three masterminds

whysoserious · Post #15 » by **whysoserious** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:54 am

studcrackers wrote:Jarrett has a slightly better shot at getting in than Chris Benoit, I don't think it's something you have to worry about

I'm not a big fan of Jarrett nor am I advocating he get in, but his overall resume in wrestling and the titles he's held over his career suggest he should be considered if not get in.

CapeCrusader · Post #16 » by **CapeCrusader** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:37 am

studcrackers wrote:Jarrett has a slightly better shot at getting in than Chris Benoit, I don't think it's something you have to worry about

I think Vince would rather induct Chris then Jeff lol.

kblo247 · Post #17 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:54 am

whysoserious wrote:
studcrackers wrote:Jarrett has a slightly better shot at getting in than Chris Benoit, I don't think it's something you have to worry about

I'm not a big fan of Jarrett nor am I advocating he get in, but his overall resume in wrestling and the titles he's held over his career suggest he should be considered if not get in.

Jeff held Vince up for cash. Vince fired him for real in public in that simulcast. They get along more since Jeffs wife died as Jarrett admitted all 4 McMahons and Hunter reached out to him, but still