WWE No Mercy 2016

[detroitKG]

Bliss is

[detroitKG]

Harper!!!!!

[iMoreland]

yeah yeah yeah

[gambitx777]

ZIggles and MIZ killed the show! 100% amazing. Bliss...... dear god that should be illegal to look that good....... Dear god marry me please.I was hoping for a shake up of the Wyatts norm but **** it. Great show IMO I love hawkins lol but im a corny kind of guy.

[jakecronus8]

Why not flip the curtain jerker and the main event. This show was backwards. Return of a mid carder everyone knew was returning in a match with zero stakes does not make for an exciting finish.

[skbucks1985]

Alexa Bliss is really bad on Talking Smack. She hasn't found the sweet spot of staying in character while just having a conversation. She's just always in wrestling promo mode.

[Spens1]

BRAY WYATT WON A MATCH. FINALLY

Also was Russo booking this, reverse PPV. Surprised Ziggler won and that it didn't main event (2nd hottest angle easily). This match though was MOTN easily, would give it a solid ****1/2 stars.

Naomi was garbage in this but i guess they need a feud going forward and if Nikki is set to be gone, Naomi is the next best thing. Alexa did destroy her on talking Smack so fair game. But Naomi why, add to the trade block (idk send Emma to Smackdown and save her from whatever the hell it is they want to do).

Speaking of Nikki she finally got a win she was getting destroyed this feud. It was a good match i thought and this is the best Carmella has looked in the ring so kudos to her.

Cena getting pinned, well i did say he would. Styles is going to brag he #beatjohncena 3 times. Kinda hoping for Wyatt vs Styles in truth. Mainly cause i think the way Styles would react to it would be phenomenal. I mean it would make some sense also since Wyatt was sniffing around the main event scene before Styles came in and won and now Bray beat Orton, surely he's in the hunt (and frankly i can't think of any other legit title contenders not named the Miz, and Miz would turn Styles face and i don't want that just yet).

I think Ambrose is going to be an interesting place because he was by far the weakest link in that match. Think he needs to change up his style a bit to his pre-wwe stuff because its just rather vanilla and doesn't show off what he can do in the ring (he is pretty good usually). Darker Ambrose vs Darker Orton would be cool (though Orton surely needs to win a feud soon so maybe not the best idea).

Also Surprised Slater & Rhyno retained, i mean its great because they're great champs but Usos are amazing heels.

Corbin v Swagger, meh Swagger is beyond bland and no booking will save him, great wrestler but not an ounce of charisma as a face.

American alpha wins a nothing match with the hype bros (who i still don't like), Ascencion are in jobber purgatory as are the vaudvillans.

[Dunthreevy]

BRAY WYATT WON A MATCH. FINALLY

Also was Russo booking this, reverse PPV. Surprised Ziggler won and that it didn't main event (2nd hottest angle easily). This match though was MOTN easily, would give it a solid ****1/2 stars.

Naomi was garbage in this but i guess they need a feud going forward and if Nikki is set to be gone, Naomi is the next best thing. Alexa did destroy her on talking Smack so fair game. But Naomi why, add to the trade block (idk send Emma to Smackdown and save her from whatever the hell it is they want to do).

Speaking of Nikki she finally got a win she was getting destroyed this feud. It was a good match i thought and this is the best Carmella has looked in the ring so kudos to her.

Cena getting pinned, well i did say he would. Styles is going to brag he #beatjohncena 3 times. Kinda hoping for Wyatt vs Styles in truth. Mainly cause i think the way Styles would react to it would be phenomenal. I mean it would make some sense also since Wyatt was sniffing around the main event scene before Styles came in and won and now Bray beat Orton, surely he's in the hunt (and frankly i can't think of any other legit title contenders not named the Miz, and Miz would turn Styles face and i don't want that just yet).

I think Ambrose is going to be an interesting place because he was by far the weakest link in that match. Think he needs to change up his style a bit to his pre-wwe stuff because its just rather vanilla and doesn't show off what he can do in the ring (he is pretty good usually). Darker Ambrose vs Darker Orton would be cool (though Orton surely needs to win a feud soon so maybe not the best idea).

Also Surprised Slater & Rhyno retained, i mean its great because they're great champs but Usos are amazing heels.

Corbin v Swagger, meh Swagger is beyond bland and no booking will save him, great wrestler but not an ounce of charisma as a face.

American alpha wins a nothing match with the hype bros (who i still don't like), Ascencion are in jobber purgatory as are the vaudvillans.

Russo actually really hated the ppv. Said the booking made no sense at all, and for the first time in a long time I agree with Russo on something. He brought up the point that WWE basically tucked their tail between their legs and conceded to the debate. It made no sense to adopt that stance because they wouldn't be losing "ratings" because the ppv was on the WWE Network and not USA. Having the main event open the show basically gave the crowd/viewers very little to look forward to for the rest of the show, which was compounded by the fact that the Women's Championship wasn't being defended as advertised.

[Polk377]

BRAY WYATT WON A MATCH. FINALLY

Also was Russo booking this, reverse PPV. Surprised Ziggler won and that it didn't main event (2nd hottest angle easily). This match though was MOTN easily, would give it a solid ****1/2 stars.

Naomi was garbage in this but i guess they need a feud going forward and if Nikki is set to be gone, Naomi is the next best thing. Alexa did destroy her on talking Smack so fair game. But Naomi why, add to the trade block (idk send Emma to Smackdown and save her from whatever the hell it is they want to do).

Speaking of Nikki she finally got a win she was getting destroyed this feud. It was a good match i thought and this is the best Carmella has looked in the ring so kudos to her.

Cena getting pinned, well i did say he would. Styles is going to brag he #beatjohncena 3 times. Kinda hoping for Wyatt vs Styles in truth. Mainly cause i think the way Styles would react to it would be phenomenal. I mean it would make some sense also since Wyatt was sniffing around the main event scene before Styles came in and won and now Bray beat Orton, surely he's in the hunt (and frankly i can't think of any other legit title contenders not named the Miz, and Miz would turn Styles face and i don't want that just yet).

I think Ambrose is going to be an interesting place because he was by far the weakest link in that match. Think he needs to change up his style a bit to his pre-wwe stuff because its just rather vanilla and doesn't show off what he can do in the ring (he is pretty good usually). Darker Ambrose vs Darker Orton would be cool (though Orton surely needs to win a feud soon so maybe not the best idea).

Also Surprised Slater & Rhyno retained, i mean its great because they're great champs but Usos are amazing heels.

Corbin v Swagger, meh Swagger is beyond bland and no booking will save him, great wrestler but not an ounce of charisma as a face.

American alpha wins a nothing match with the hype bros (who i still don't like), Ascencion are in jobber purgatory as are the vaudvillans.

Russo actually really hated the ppv. Said the booking made no sense at all, and for the first time in a long time I agree with Russo on something. He brought up the point that WWE basically tucked their tail between their legs and conceded to the debate. It made no sense to adopt that stance because they wouldn't be losing "ratings" because the ppv was on the WWE Network and not USA. Having the main event open the show basically gave the crowd/viewers very little to look forward to for the rest of the show, which was compounded by the fact that the Women's Championship wasn't being defended as advertised.

I didn't mind that the WWE Championship match went on first. The problem with this 3 hour "PPV" format is that by the end I am usually too drained/bored to enjoy the match. Putting it on first starts the show with a bang. The real main event should have been Miz vs Ziggler since it had the most stakes and great story development through the feud. Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt was a disaster imo. They lacked real in ring chemistry and I am sick of the only time Wyatt winning is when the lights go out and something appears. Harper returning was predictable considering he has been working house shows for a couple of weeks. They should have had Harper turn on Wyatt after he picked him up. That would at least be a good feud to look forward to for Wyatt and Harper can succeed on his own.

[Polk377]

BTW best part of the Orton vs Wyatt match was when Bray had Orton in a headlock and his beard was hanging on Orton's head like a wig. I thought that was hilarious.

[Ruzious]

Brutal, feel for both her and Bliss.

It is, but Bliss hasn't done anything to make me thing she's ready for a major match. She's just not believable as someone who could compete with Becky, imo. And Nicki vs Carmella is just as uninteresting - though Carmella at least has a personality. The overall lineup is not good. Ziggler needs to steal the show.

He hadn't done that in like 3 years

So um... ahem... just clearing my throat... got a little tickle there.

And Becky's replacement beat Alexa Bliss.

The 3-way had a disappointing ending, but the bulk of the match was outstanding, so overall - I thought that match was almost as good as Ziggler/Miz. The rest of the card was bad to okay (Orton/Bray), imo.

[Max Green]

Miz/Ziggler was **** fantastic. Awesome match, when Ziggler is on he is one of the best. Their program was really good, great promo's leading up to an excellent match. Ziggler completely rebuilt himself since the draft.

[Dunthreevy]

Miz/Ziggler was **** fantastic. Awesome match, when Ziggler is on he is one of the best. Their program was really good, great promo's leading up to an excellent match. Ziggler completely rebuilt himself since the draft.

My question is, "what the **** was the point?" Like, what do they do with Miz now? He actually made the IC title interesting. I can't see Ziggler being interesting beyond the end of that feud. People have suggested that maybe Miz moves up to feud with AJ for the World Title, but how do they do that when they're both firmly planted as heels? They just had AJ win by using a chair, after he was forced to tap by both of the other 2 guys in the triple threat. Do they just act like that never happened and try to flip him face with no explanation?

Back to Ziggler, what does he do now? Cut his usual garbage promos he's always done as a face? Talk about how it feels damn good to be our champ again and he's not going anywhere? He no longer has the sympathy of the crowd because now he's the champ, and the sympathy from the crowd was the only thing getting him over in this Miz feud. Maybe they've got some good stuff written for him because we're talking about Smackdown, but I'm not very confident that having him pin Miz last night was a good idea.

[Max Green]

Miz/Ziggler was **** fantastic. Awesome match, when Ziggler is on he is one of the best. Their program was really good, great promo's leading up to an excellent match. Ziggler completely rebuilt himself since the draft.

My question is, "what the **** was the point?" Like, what do they do with Miz now? He actually made the IC title interesting. I can't see Ziggler being interesting beyond the end of that feud. People have suggested that maybe Miz moves up to feud with AJ for the World Title, but how do they do that when they're both firmly planted as heels? They just had AJ win by using a chair, after he was forced to tap by both of the other 2 guys in the triple threat. Do they just act like that never happened and try to flip him face with no explanation?

Back to Ziggler, what does he do now? Cut his usual garbage promos he's always done as a face? Talk about how it feels damn good to be our champ again and he's not going anywhere? He no longer has the sympathy of the crowd because now he's the champ, and the sympathy from the crowd was the only thing getting him over in this Miz feud. Maybe they've got some good stuff written for him because we're talking about Smackdown, but I'm not very confident that having him pin Miz last night was a good idea.

Ziggler can work programs with Curt Hawkins, Apollo Crews or the guy who just returned Luke Harper (Who I would personally make a main-eventer). The Miz's run with the IC Title needed to end. There was really no one left on the Smackdown roster for him to feud with while holding the title.

I would have Miz get involved in the Ambrose/Styles/Cena program aligning himself with AJ before he eventually goes after the title himself.

[Dunthreevy]

Miz/Ziggler was **** fantastic. Awesome match, when Ziggler is on he is one of the best. Their program was really good, great promo's leading up to an excellent match. Ziggler completely rebuilt himself since the draft.

My question is, "what the **** was the point?" Like, what do they do with Miz now? He actually made the IC title interesting. I can't see Ziggler being interesting beyond the end of that feud. People have suggested that maybe Miz moves up to feud with AJ for the World Title, but how do they do that when they're both firmly planted as heels? They just had AJ win by using a chair, after he was forced to tap by both of the other 2 guys in the triple threat. Do they just act like that never happened and try to flip him face with no explanation?

Back to Ziggler, what does he do now? Cut his usual garbage promos he's always done as a face? Talk about how it feels damn good to be our champ again and he's not going anywhere? He no longer has the sympathy of the crowd because now he's the champ, and the sympathy from the crowd was the only thing getting him over in this Miz feud. Maybe they've got some good stuff written for him because we're talking about Smackdown, but I'm not very confident that having him pin Miz last night was a good idea.

Ziggler can work programs with Curt Hawkins, Apollo Crews or the guy who just returned Luke Harper (Who I would personally make a main-eventer). The Miz's run with the IC Title needed to end. There was really no one left on the Smackdown roster for him to feud with while holding the title.

I would have Miz get involved in the Ambrose/Styles/Cena program aligning himself with AJ before he eventually goes after the title himself.

That's where I'll disagree. Miz's run was getting pretty lengthy and it wasn't something that should have been wasted on a guy who is a 10 year vet and is already well established (again mainly because I have no faith in babyface Ziggler to remain interesting). I feel like it could have been used much more effectively to put over a younger guy who needed the rub. Could have very well been a guy who isn't even on the main roster yet (possibly someone like Tye Dillinger when call-ups are done after Mania). Keeping the title on Miz through Mania wouldn't be that hard to do, especially with his schedule of stepping away from tv for weeks at a time to do movies, etc.

[WRau1]

My question is, "what the **** was the point?" Like, what do they do with Miz now? He actually made the IC title interesting. I can't see Ziggler being interesting beyond the end of that feud. People have suggested that maybe Miz moves up to feud with AJ for the World Title, but how do they do that when they're both firmly planted as heels? They just had AJ win by using a chair, after he was forced to tap by both of the other 2 guys in the triple threat. Do they just act like that never happened and try to flip him face with no explanation?

Back to Ziggler, what does he do now? Cut his usual garbage promos he's always done as a face? Talk about how it feels damn good to be our champ again and he's not going anywhere? He no longer has the sympathy of the crowd because now he's the champ, and the sympathy from the crowd was the only thing getting him over in this Miz feud. Maybe they've got some good stuff written for him because we're talking about Smackdown, but I'm not very confident that having him pin Miz last night was a good idea.

Ziggler can work programs with Curt Hawkins, Apollo Crews or the guy who just returned Luke Harper (Who I would personally make a main-eventer). The Miz's run with the IC Title needed to end. There was really no one left on the Smackdown roster for him to feud with while holding the title.

I would have Miz get involved in the Ambrose/Styles/Cena program aligning himself with AJ before he eventually goes after the title himself.

That's where I'll disagree. Miz's run was getting pretty lengthy and it wasn't something that should have been wasted on a guy who is a 10 year vet and is already well established (again mainly because I have no faith in babyface Ziggler to remain interesting). I feel like it could have been used much more effectively to put over a younger guy who needed the rub. Could have very well been a guy who isn't even on the main roster yet (possibly someone like Tye Dillinger when call-ups are done after Mania). Keeping the title on Miz through Mania wouldn't be that hard to do, especially with his schedule of stepping away from tv for weeks at a time to do movies, etc.

Agree. Although the match was fantastic, the payoff was not. Miz as IC champ could have continued and it could have been, ahem, awesome. He could have continued his feud with DB, Miz could have ran through the rest of the mid card until he did something like a Cena open challenge, he could have refused to go for the World Championship by claiming the IC title is more prestigious (which iirc, I don't think an angle like has happened in the WWE), and Miz's title reign could have (storyline) changed his character to be more aggressive or evolve his in-ring style. There was still a ton he could have done. I don't think they should've taken the title off of him last night.

[Ruzious]

I thought the Miz was relatively boring until the last couple of months. It was having great guests on his talk show - AJ, Jericho, Steen - that got him going; before then - meh, and the blowup with Daniel Bryan was what really got people excited about him. WWE writers are just going to have to help Ziggles like they did with Miz. I wouldn't hold Ziggler being a 10 year vet against him - that's no reason not to make him a champion - rather than doing it prematurely with one of their new Smackdown greenhorns.

[RightToCensor]

No Mercy was not a good night for Smackdown female wresters. Becky and Nattie should be the focus of that division until gals like Carmella, Naomi, and Bliss are ready to perform on their level.

[LittleOzzy]

Bliss losing made no sense, is she now no longer the number one contender?

Miz/Ziggler was great. I hope Miz begs for a rematch on Smackdown and is denied after he gave away so many chances at the title.

[Spens1]

BRAY WYATT WON A MATCH. FINALLY

Also was Russo booking this, reverse PPV. Surprised Ziggler won and that it didn't main event (2nd hottest angle easily). This match though was MOTN easily, would give it a solid ****1/2 stars.

Naomi was garbage in this but i guess they need a feud going forward and if Nikki is set to be gone, Naomi is the next best thing. Alexa did destroy her on talking Smack so fair game. But Naomi why, add to the trade block (idk send Emma to Smackdown and save her from whatever the hell it is they want to do).

Speaking of Nikki she finally got a win she was getting destroyed this feud. It was a good match i thought and this is the best Carmella has looked in the ring so kudos to her.

Cena getting pinned, well i did say he would. Styles is going to brag he #beatjohncena 3 times. Kinda hoping for Wyatt vs Styles in truth. Mainly cause i think the way Styles would react to it would be phenomenal. I mean it would make some sense also since Wyatt was sniffing around the main event scene before Styles came in and won and now Bray beat Orton, surely he's in the hunt (and frankly i can't think of any other legit title contenders not named the Miz, and Miz would turn Styles face and i don't want that just yet).

I think Ambrose is going to be an interesting place because he was by far the weakest link in that match. Think he needs to change up his style a bit to his pre-wwe stuff because its just rather vanilla and doesn't show off what he can do in the ring (he is pretty good usually). Darker Ambrose vs Darker Orton would be cool (though Orton surely needs to win a feud soon so maybe not the best idea).

Also Surprised Slater & Rhyno retained, i mean its great because they're great champs but Usos are amazing heels.

Corbin v Swagger, meh Swagger is beyond bland and no booking will save him, great wrestler but not an ounce of charisma as a face.

American alpha wins a nothing match with the hype bros (who i still don't like), Ascencion are in jobber purgatory as are the vaudvillans.

Russo actually really hated the ppv. Said the booking made no sense at all, and for the first time in a long time I agree with Russo on something. He brought up the point that WWE basically tucked their tail between their legs and conceded to the debate. It made no sense to adopt that stance because they wouldn't be losing "ratings" because the ppv was on the WWE Network and not USA. Having the main event open the show basically gave the crowd/viewers very little to look forward to for the rest of the show, which was compounded by the fact that the Women's Championship wasn't being defended as advertised.

well he's right. Not sure why they where so scared because this was on the network, who really cares, they already are subbed and if they decide to watch the debate thats their loss (lets be honest most would, as did I). Most people won't even watch the PPV live anyway.