Royal Rumble (Jan. 29th, 2017)

[iMoreland]

Rumblings that Goldberg is going to take the title off of Owens at the next PPV.

I really hate the WWE sometimes.

I had 3 older family members/friends ask about Survivor Series and the Royal Rumble when we haven't talked about wrestling in a long time. During the holidays they were the ones that brought up wrestling in the conversation rather than talking about basketball or football. There's more interest in Goldberg/Brock more than anyone else on the roster.

No matter how much we (Internet fans) love the idea of KO/Y2J for the main title, WWE is going to pander to the fans who might not have the network.  Rather than us who are going to stay signed up no matter who is in the main title match.

They're going to do what makes them as much money as possible.

[MistyMountain20]

The questions is does perceived "star power" sell or does the event itself. Isn't Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble - those type of events - people watch them for the event itself. I don't think there's a lot of evidence that shows someone like Brock has really increased viewership at all.

Like possibly Goldberg did for Survivor Series. Which is fine. But why give him the title for Mania. It's not necessary. Mania sells itself.

[WRau1]

The questions is does perceived "star power" sell or does the event itself. Isn't Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble - those type of events - people watch them for the event itself. I don't think there's a lot of evidence that shows someone like Brock has really increased viewership at all.

Like possibly Goldberg did for Survivor Series. Which is fine. But why give him the title for Mania. It's not necessary. Mania sells itself.

IIRC, Lesnar did nothing for ratings or network buys. Neither did The Rock. Agree on not having to put the title on Goldberg, he doesn't need it. If Goldberg does take the title off of Owens, I have no doubt that it will be in a 2 min squash since Bill can't seem to string more than a spear and pose together without being gassed. I understand the need for Goldberg to be on the card at WM but letting him bury talent like that is not the way to go, IMO.

[2009NBAChamps]

I get that argument, regarding pandering to fans that were once Goldberg marks, and have fallen out of the Wrestling world, but to truly get them to stay/back is to put on a product that's enjoyable to watch. Goldberg vs Brock certainly is not.

For that matter, I don't think Goldberg vs anyone would be, but that is just my opinion. If you put that as the main event (god I hope not), then maybe that helps, because everyone has the opportunity to enjoy the other matches and become fans of those stars, but otherwise it becomes a drag on the program, and adds the risk of serving as a reminder to those same casual fans of why they don't watch anymore.

[Scott Hall]

What a massive disappointment this Rumble was and I found the little things just as annoying as the big things...

I need to go back and time it myself but between the end of the Universal Tittle match and the crusierweight tittle match
I swear it must have been 10-20 minutes of Network adds and bad commercials. How many times do we need to see
these horrific Holey Foley commercials saying he **** in his pants? Ok I get it they had to clean up the destruction from the
Universal tittle match and set up the stupid cruiserweight ring gimmick but could they have not shot an angle or do some
promos for the Rumble or something?

Maybe I was just in a bad mood but even the little things bugged me like the long 60 yard walk to the ring and the stupid signs
in the crowd. Seriously hate when people bring signs of huge inflated heads of faces of them or people they know. There was
this giant photo of a fat kid in glasses that looked like he might be mentally disabled and it clear as day all PPV. Seriously if I was
there and I paid good money to see the show and my view was getting blocked by that crap I'd do something about it. WWE will
confiscate normal sings but allow that crap?

Then some guy has a sign that says "Warriors blew a 3-1 lead" and was holding it all night. Are these idiots even wrestling fans
or they just trying to troll the show? Like who gives a **** about something from last year. For whatever reason the
wrestling geeks got under my skin.

As for the show itself...

- Wasn't into Charlotte vs. Bayley. Part of it was predictable other part is I'm starting to get bored of Bayley.

- Owens vs. Reigns was solid with some good spots glad Owens went over

- Neville vs. Swan Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz which sucks because I like both these guys as talents

- Cena vs. Styles was good and probably the best part of the show but I knew they weren't gonna be able
to top that epic Summerslam match. Sucks to see Cena go over but we all knew he wasn't gonna go down
0-3 to AJ. Tying Flairs record is also sad yet was inevitable.

- The Rumble match.... Years from now when I go back to watch old Rumbles again I'll remember to skip this one.
Those sneaky bastards announce what 18-20 participants? have the internet buzzing on possible surprises and returns
and then deliver on just Tye Dillenger at 10 (which I'm surprised they even did that). I guess it made sense for them
to not announce guys like Kalisto, Gallagher, Crews, Henry, Enzo etc rather then to disappoint people early and kill
their enthusiasm. They probably got suckers out there to buy the Network first before they gave them the Stunner.

- Randy Orton? I haven't been a fan of his since about 2006 I've found him to be stale and boring until this new Wyatt
Family gimmick has given him some new life. With that said I like him slotted better as an upper mid card act and
nowhere near the Tittle or main event of Wrestlemania. If it's gonna be Cena vs. Orton AGAIN just shoot me in the
head already.

[Dunthreevy]

Some of you guys should just stop watching wrestling. You clearly get very little enjoyment out of it. Might do you good to find a new hobby.

[WRau1]

The guys reaction at 1:01 was fantastic.

Watch on YouTube

[Scott Hall]

Please tell me that response wasn't directed at me

please

[Prince12]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

[improper]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

The only way Reigns made sense there is if the intent was to get the crowd to pop for Orton's win. If that was the case, Reigns might have been the only guy at 30 who could have gotten that result over, because from the second he entered the audience was firmly behind literally anyone else in the match.

[Scott Hall]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

You should probably stop watching wrestling then since you were disappointed

/green

[Prince12]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

You should probably stop watching wrestling then since you were disappointed

/green

Haha your rant was a little more venemous

[Brandon-Clyde]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

The only way Reigns made sense there is if the intent was to get the crowd to pop for Orton's win. If that was the case, Reigns might have been the only guy at 30 who could have gotten that result over, because from the second he entered the audience was firmly behind literally EVERYONE else in the match.

Fixed

[Scott Hall]

I just was holding on to hope that 30 was going to be angle and the crowd would have absolutely blown up and then reigns came out. So bad.

You should probably stop watching wrestling then since you were disappointed

/green

Haha your rant was a little more venemous

Looks like some people are S.A.W.F.T. then...

I laughed at the beginning of Smackdown when WWE showed all these positive reviews from media outlets
reviewing the Rumble which I've never seen them do before. It was obvious they were butt hurt about the negative
reviews and there were a lot of negative reviews just google "The Royal Rumble sucked". From polls I've seen online
if people liked the Rumble the results were 60% thumbs down 40% thumbs up.

We just live in a society where if you give an honest opinion with constructive criticism you're labelled a hater or
people try to belittle you or insult you instead of talking about it like a normal adult.

Or just do what Lebron does and go savage on anyone that dares to criticize you...

There's just a code of respect I try to honor it but so many people don't and take these low blows or cheap shots
or act like little babies it kind of pisses me off because I could act like a dick if I wanted to for the hell of it.

[tugs]

Forgot to say that Strauman is legit. I think he and Harper will be huge in the future.