WWE No Mercy (September 24th, 2017)

TankCommander17 · Post #21 » by **TankCommander17** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:49 am

They killed Braun for no reason. That was disgusting. I don't care anymore. The one good thing they had going and they kill it. Fcking morons.

improper · Post #22 » by **improper** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:29 am

That show started out surprisingly good. Basically every match was good up until Reigns/Cena, at which point the show fell apart.

I thought Reigns/Cena struggled for the same reasons that Reigns/HHH and Reigns/Taker struggled. It was way too slow and boring for a marquee match. It's clear that WWE does not understand the strengths of Roman Reigns. He is not an in-ring technician. He is not capable of wrestling a quality twenty minute epic. He doesn't have enough of an offensive arsenal and he's not good at the psychology aspect of performing. He needs to work shorter, more violent matches that play into his strengths. This is why he worked well with Braun, and works well with Lesnar.

I also thought that, given the build, Cena/Reigns just really lacked any emotional investment. It didn't feel like two guys who hated each other. It felt like literally every other Cena match, right down to the finisher spamming and ridiculous kickouts. You can't build the match as two guys who just loathe each other and then have them work a bland, normal match.

The cruiserweight match was a joke. Enzo has no business being in the division, let alone holding the title.

Strowman/Lesnar had potential, but I think the two matches prior killed the crowd, and the match itself was just kind of underwhelming. I also thought that Strowman lost far too easily. On a night where everyone was kicking out of goddamn everything, you have Strowman fall to a single F5? It just makes him look weak when they should be building him up as the future, not Roman.

WRau1 · Post #23 » by **WRau1** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:21 pm

What was with Lesnar not breaking the Kimura Lock when Strowman was on the ropes? Strowman got there like two or three times before having to grab the ropes one last time. Thought that was weird.

iMoreland · Post #24 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:58 pm

I really don't get why Jason Jordan is getting booed just because WWE is trying to give him a push. Wrestling fans are the worst sometimes.

Flames24Rulz · Post #25 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:06 pm

I knew it wasn't going to happen, but I was hoping like hell that Cena would've given an AA to Reigns after lifting his hand up after the match.

I'm still holding out hope that Cena will eventually turn heel before he actually does call it a career. Maybe "Nice Guy John" retired last night and a new Cena will emerge at Survivor Series, or whenever he comes back. Fat chance, probably, but we can hope.

Post #26 » by **spykelee** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:34 pm

Enzo should be getting boo'd and should just pack his bags and leave.

That aside, and the divas match... I liked the ppv.

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Post #27 » by **LittleOzzy** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:13 pm

Flames24Rulz wrote:I knew it wasn't going to happen, but I was hoping like hell that Cena would've given an AA to Reigns after lifting his hand up after the match.

I'm still holding out hope that Cena will eventually turn heel before he actually does call it a career. Maybe "Nice Guy John" retired last night and a new Cena will emerge at Survivor Series, or whenever he comes back. Fat chance, probably, but we can hope.

Turning on Reigns wouldn't make you a heel. That's a fast track way to becoming a baby face in today's WWE.

Post #28 » by **LittleOzzy** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:17 pm

Tag match, and the Women's match booth stood out as the best of the night for me. Nia Jax came across as a beast.

One F5 to pin Strowman was an odd choice.
Holding onto the Cruiserweight belt for almost a year just to lose it because of a shot to the nuts was an even odder choice.
Cena/Reigns wrestled to me like they were just going through the motions.

Post #29 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:47 pm

iMoreland wrote:I really don't get why Jason Jordan is getting booed just because WWE is trying to give him a push. Wrestling fans are the worst sometimes.

Agreed - though he is boring as a face, so far. My hunch is that once he becomes a full-on heel, he'll be a much more interesting character.

Post #30 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:08 pm

Overall, 2 things stuck out - One was Cesaro's teeth not sticking in and him getting stitched up and finishing the match. That kind of toughness should not be taken for granted. Two was the contrast of Reigns taking at least 4 AA's and winning, while Strohman lost on one F-5. That just makes no sense, and for once I agree with the smarks bashing the WWE for this one. I can't imagine anyone bought Cena wanting to make up with Reigns and basically hand him the torch - looked too insincere. As was said, they have no chemistry, and it's obvious Cena has no interest in Reigns. They need to overhaul Reigns' character, because it's reaching the point of no return.

improper · Post #31 » by **improper** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:45 pm

Ruzious wrote:Overall, 2 things stuck out - One was Cesaro's teeth not sticking in and him getting stitched up and finishing the match. That kind of toughness should not be taken for granted. Two was the contrast of Reigns taking at least 4 AA's and winning, while Strohman lost on one F-5. That just makes no sense, and for once I agree with the smarks bashing the WWE for this one. I can't imagine anyone bought Cena wanting to make up with Reigns and basically hand him the torch - looked too insincere. As was said, they have no chemistry, and it's obvious Cena has no interest in Reigns. They need to overhaul Reigns' character, because it's reaching the point of no return.

That match reminded me a lot of the match Cena had with Del Rio where he was obviously just going through the motions before taking another hiatus. Cena knows how to put on good, epic matches. We've seen him do it dozens of times now with guys like Owens and Styles, both of whom he clearly worked very hard with to put on quality fights that the audience was totally into. He didn't seem like he cared in that match last night. It seemed like they told him he was putting Roman over, but he clearly didn't believe that Roman deserved it and thus didn't go out and put on the normal Cena epic.

Granted, some of that may be that basically every prior Cena match has had the crowd firmly united against Cena, which made those matches feel more important.

heatwillbeback · Post #32 » by **heatwillbeback** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:21 pm

iMoreland wrote:I really don't get why Jason Jordan is getting booed just because WWE is trying to give him a push. Wrestling fans are the worst sometimes.

I think the Angle thing is so phony.

I like some realism when it comes to storylines. Miz works because he is a low end actor who has been in some movies. Just an example obviously but the push was wrong and I think WWE fans are booing that moreso than the wrestler.

Flames24Rulz · Post #33 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:21 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:
Flames24Rulz wrote:I knew it wasn't going to happen, but I was hoping like hell that Cena would've given an AA to Reigns after lifting his hand up after the match.

I'm still holding out hope that Cena will eventually turn heel before he actually does call it a career. Maybe "Nice Guy John" retired last night and a new Cena will emerge at Survivor Series, or whenever he comes back. Fat chance, probably, but we can hope.

Turning on Reigns wouldn't make you a heel. That's a fast track way to becoming a baby face in today's WWE.

Good point, but it's clear that Vince is still marketing Reigns as a face. I was hoping Cena would've resorted to a chair or a foreign object after Super Reigns kicked out of the double AA. But...it's never going to happen.