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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#161 » by Dominator83 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:08 am

Spens1 wrote:I mean overall, it wasn't terrible (it was ok, solid enough, which is more than i expected).

WWE title match, US title match and raw womans title match for me all did well.

Show started off pretty badly but towards the end it improved (2nd half was pretty good actually).

Again though, these shows are way too long, they need to find a way to cut it down to 4 hours, the only show that should be more is Wrestlemania.

edit: key point though, they buried Owens for what? Also Miz winning makes me suspect, even if it was a DQ win.

Spot on. IMO no ppv outside of Mania should be more than 3 hours. That's the other reason besides the bad booking, that fans have been just lackluster with the main rosters. Some of it is just a case of too much of a good thing being bad. Even NXT would be much more sour if it was 2-3 hours every week plus a PPV every month
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#162 » by Dominator83 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:13 am

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Spens1 wrote:I mean overall, it wasn't terrible (it was ok, solid enough, which is more than i expected).

WWE title match, US title match and raw womans title match for me all did well.

Show started off pretty badly but towards the end it improved (2nd half was pretty good actually).

Again though, these shows are way too long, they need to find a way to cut it down to 4 hours, the only show that should be more is Wrestlemania.

edit: key point though, they buried Owens for what? Also Miz winning makes me suspect, even if it was a DQ win.


I think the crowd affected the show...

I was expecting them to hijack the show coming in but instead they just went quiet from the very beginning
which is a bigger FU to Vince but the matches were solid and it affected the enjoyment to the viewer.

New York is usually what a top 5 top 10 city historically for crowd noise I just think most fans weren't interested
in these feuds coming in and Vince has given people reason to not care about these characters and gotten them over.

Vince has killed off KO, Roode, Lashley, Asuka, Sasha, Jinder, Moon, AOP, Rusev, Elias, Nia Jax, Sheamus, Cesaro, Usos,
Matt Hardy, Benjamin and Gable etc etc etc

While pushing jobbers as tag-team champions showing next to no interest in fixing the tag-division plus all the other
issues like having a champ that was never there, putting the womens tittle on hot chicks that can't wrestle, playing
favorites pushing Roman

Complacency kills


Add to that list Aries, who's shining in TNA right now. I wouldn't really call Alexa just a hot chick that can't wrestle. To me she's ok in the ring, but a great character and talker. Carmella is just mediocre all around and never should have sniffed the belt on a roster loaded with great wrestlers like Charloette, Asuka, and Becky
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#163 » by Oscirus » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:11 am

This was supposed to be your second best ppv of the year and this is the best they could do.

Heading into your first all womens ppv and the women division is ****. Storyline wise is their anybody other then Ronda rousey and Charlotte Flair who can believably challenge Ronda Rousey and Charlotte Flair? Spent so much time building up that blonde bimbo that Vince wants to **** that they wrecked their raw womens division. Smackdowns not much better, with the Flair slurping.

The heavyweight pictures a mess. On smackdown both Brian and AJ are being given things to do until their inevitable wrestlemania clash. Lets see how long these storylines can be stretched out. Raw is just lol at this point. Braun Roman, who cares? At this point that title is doomed to be carried by some crappy wrestler.

Tag team picture is just a waste of time at this point and to think they want to bring in women tag team belts too. Cant even handle the mens tag team picture but you do you WWE.

Why take the belt off Seth just to give it back to him a few weeks later? Is the eventual dean Seth title match that friggin amazing?

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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#164 » by spykelee » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:18 pm

I didn't mind summerslam but there was a couple questionable things for sure.

Seth and zig's I enjoyed. A little slow off the top but in a fifteen minute opening match you expect that. It won't be high energy the whole time. But good match. Was surprised they took the title off ziggler after only a few weeks. That's all dolph ever gets. Just a courtesy championship run. I didn't really understand why Seth lost it in the first place if this was the plan

BB... Tough to see anyone beating this team straight up. Gonna have to be a triple threat match where somebdoy else eats the pin. And please breakup the new day, God they are so awful. I haven't been able to handle them for a good 12-16 months already. Wwe really needs to do away with these ridiculous disqualification losses rule. I've been on this campaign for awhile but some legitimacy to the product would really help out. Sometines I'm trying to explain things to my kids about why this happened or that's allowed and It just makes zero sense. "so he's in the cage so he can't interfere daddy" yup. "how come he's allowed too throw weapons out and why does he have a key daddy" hmmm, very good question 7 year old. And this is supposed to be geared towards kids...

Braun and owens was kinda **** for KO. Other than a few dq wins he basically ate **** this entire feud

Haven't caught the women's match yet. Little surprised Charlotte won but then again, I'm never surprised when Charlotte wins. Obvious feud with lynch should be money

I liked AJ and Joe. Great physicality in that match. Would have preferred Joe get the belt there but a long feud between these two isn't awful. The ending there with aj bleeding and trying to grab his daughter was... Idk. "daddy your bleeding" and aj takes her and tries to hug her and she wants no part... That was sorta cringe worthy for me

Rhonda... About as underwhelming a title win as you can find. Unlike mania where she was showcased or even against Nia where she had to battle and overcome.. There was none of that. Straight domination.. I guess that's how it has to be when you market her as the baddest women on the planet but without any struggle the audience just isn't as invested as they should have otherwise been.

Miz and Bryan. I agree with what SH said in that it feels like this match should have been ratcheted up five notches but it was only up 1. Maybe that was the crowd as they needed more encouraging from DB than should have been needed but either way a decent match feels a little underwhelming. Looking forward to seeing more of this feud though.

Roman and Brock... Whatever. Just glad we can get the title back into the weekly picture. Speaking of whatever, Jeff and shin. that back bump on the apron though...

Lastly, I can't stand coach.. I thought I'd like him when he came back but he's awful. So many long winded general thoughts that add nothing to the broadcast ever. Hes constantly cut off by Cole or corrected by Graves. Speaking of Cole.. Debuted in 99 on smackdown. Almost twenty years. Crazy. From a straight combat sports announcer prospective, Mauro is miles ahead of cole or anyone else on the planet really. But for WWE, cole is actually pretty good. As a television broadcaster myself I respect Cole for all he deals with. He hits all his cues, gets in all the promos, is never cut off going to break or anything. All that with Vince in his ear non stop. That isn't easy let me tell you. He gets ragged on alot but he's a solid broadcaster and really the only one who's been able to keep up with Graves.

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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#165 » by bestnamezRtaken » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:16 pm

This year's SummerSlam show was good, not great, but good. Couple of stinkers in there, some good matches, some solid matches. Not as bad as some people make it out to be but it's hard to please a million people all at the same time, hahaha.

I missed Almas/Vega v Rusev/Lana. I may go back and watch it just because of Rusev and Almas. I think we all knew that Almas/Vega was going to win too, so no shocker here.

I also missed Cedric and Gulak, will have to go back and watch it but it sounds like it ended up with a roll up victory, which is kind of lame. Oh well.

I did see the B Team beat the Revival. Those thinking or hoping the Revival was going to win, delusional fans. They aren't going to end this title run for at least a few more months, as crappy as that sounds. Unless eventually we start to really see the intensity of Bo Dallas that I guess he showed in NXT. Trust the process I guess? I dunno, lol. There's a reason they're keeping the B Team away from the AOP...it'll be them that take the tag titles off of them I think.

Seth v Zigg was good. Seeing Dean square up to Drew was cool. Dean just looks so much better now then with that shaggy crap haircut he had. He looks believable as a lunatic. I thought we were going to get the heel turn here because there was an angle they were doing, where Seth was standing with the title looking at Dolph and Drew going back and Dean was behind Seth and it was the perfect opportunity but it didn't happen. Dean looked a little distant in the ring with him though. So it's coming soon. Good match to open up the show.

The New Day v the Bludgeon Bros was good, I was okay with the ending. Though I thought it was an odd spot for it. Because Rowan was down for quite a bit where it looked like New Day was going to steal the win but at the time when you'd expect Rowan to be back up getting his second wind, that's where he does the DQ? At the point where he started using his mallet, is usually the point where the they are getting their second wind and then finish the match. Push Woods off the top, taking a fall like that to the outside usually renders the victim down for 3-5 minutes. With Woods being out, this gives them the opportunity to double team Big E for the win...but okay. They're the heels, they needed a screwy finish I suppose. I just hope the New Day aren't the ones to take the titles off them. Like someone mentioned, they need to have a triple threat in order to keep these two looking strong.

I was okay with Braun destroying Owens to keep the briefcase. Why? Well, with a finish like this, hopefully it means the end of this feud, which will mean that KO can move on to someone else to get a more meaningful feud going. Unless the plan is to have Braun cash in tonight on Raw and have Owens screw him over...that might be interesting. I kind of hope not though because I don't want to see any more of Braun v KO for awhile. KO deserves better. But like I said, I was okay with this squash match, because it usually means the end of a feud when it's done like this. It just felt like this was the conclusion. Let's all pray together, haha.

Charlotte v Becky v Carmella was good. I enjoyed the match. I know someone asked earlier about Charlotte's boobs being bigger, yes they are. Part of the reason she was off TV for a bit, was because she was getting both of her implants fixed. Anyways, back to the match. I like the story they were telling, you could tell a Becky heel turn was coming. Although I wanted Becky to win, I'm okay with Charlotte winning because it's better than having Carmella keep the title. The Becky heel turn was such a nice pop though. She needed the heel turn too in my opinion. I'll take a Becky/Charlotte feud. It means that Becky is going to become champ at some point. With the way they went back and forth between her and Sasha, it'll make for a decent to good feud. This is what the Raw feud should be too for the title....Sasha v Bayley. Then you'd had all four of the horsewomen in feuds with each other. Anyways, great match, great finish, great heel turn. I'll take it.

Now, I didn't like that Joe v AJ was in the middle of the show. AJ has NEVER main evented a PPV since becoming WWE champion. It's crazy! I wasn't expecting him to main event SS with Brock v Roman but at least put it closer to the end....blah, whatever. The match was good. Joe makes such a great heel. I'll take the screwy DQ finish if it means having these two feud for a bit longer. That Styles Clash Joe took looked scary too but these two are so good that I wasn't even worried about it. Joe picking up the mic to say "I"ll be your daddy" was freaking awesome. Great match, great storytelling. It was a little awkward with AJ bleeding and going to his wife and daughter, you can clearly hear her say "Daddy you're bleeding" and he takes her and she's like, nah not when you looking like this! She was probably scared with AJ bleeding. It's understandable. I do like that Joe teased the Muscle Buster though too! If anyone knows how to take that bump, it's AJ, but I don't think Vince will ever let Joe do it on the main roster.

Miz v DB was good. It does look like the feud will be going on a little bit longer, or it could mean that DB didn't resign and he's gonna be leaving. Either way, it was a good match, I was okay with the heel finish. Maybe we see Brie v Maryse at Evolution? Seeing the welts on Miz's chest was cool too. But I felt like this match should have given us more. I do agree with what other people were saying as far as, these two hate each other, it shouldn't be a wrestling match but more of a fight, but I think it's because there were no stipulations, like a street fight or no DQ or last man standing, etc. But I think there might be a bigger plan for the feud, hopefully we get something along those lines. Corey Graves acting like Miz's knock out punch was like Show doing it, hahaha. He's too funny.

Demon Finn v Corbin was awesome. I loved this matched to be honest. We got to see the Demon and it was a freaking squash match! It was the perfect way to use Demon Balor too because this is like an unlocked Finn, a Finn that comes out on rare occasions to destroy his opponent. This does mean that, they are implying that Seth Rollins is light years stronger and better than Corbin (which yes it's very very true) but like, Rollins almost beat the Demon, Styles almost beat the Demon...Corbin couldn't last two minutes with the Demon. I know WWE doesn't think about stuff like that and I am well aware that Corbin doesn't compare to Seth or AJ at all, so don't even try to twist my words into something like that, but it was just a thought, haha. I was wondering why they were having this match go on so late. :lol:

Shin v Jeff was fine. I think this match was heavily planned due to the injuries of Jeff. I was reading an article on Jeff saying that his hand has finally woken up (no pun intended) as it had been asleep for the last 2 months, like wtf dude been wrestling like that the last two months? And then he said his back is pretty banged up and that he doesn't do the swanton bomb anymore at house shows because it kills him so much as he's been using the twist of fate as a finishing move and only pulls out the swanton during TV shows or PPVs and I'm thinking, okay yeah that makes sense. Dude is 40, he needs to start taking it easy....and then he swantons the hardest part of the ring and completely misses Shin...f*ck me man, what are you doing Jeff? Hopefully this means he gets put on the shelf for some much needed time off. Keep the title on Shin and away from Orton please.

Ronda v Alexa...I just didn't really care for. I know a lot of people wanted her to have a dominating victory and a quick squash match, but it did nothing for me. I don't buy her as a champion right now. To me, this match was very flat, tried to give her her feel good moment but all I could think about was her poorly done makeup (Becky's too!) and just how boring it was. She's not ready to be champion yet in my opinion. I think they needed to have Sasha or Bayley turn heel, have one of them as champion because they are legit, have Ronda feud with one of them to win the title, that would of given her a much more meaningful title win. This was a stinker for me.

Roman v Brock was interesting. I thought Braun was going to cash in at the start of the match to make it a triple threat, but I was okay with him standing outside of the ring. Now, the match itself was meh but the storytelling with it was fine. I liked that Brock was focused on Braun and f***ing tossed his briefcase all the way up the ramp and just beat the piss out of him...I didn't like that it took one spear to end one of the longest title reigns. We all needed more, Roman literally did two moves. Super man punch times 5, and spear times 2? 3? That's supposed to end Brock? Who was so dominate for the past year and a half? After he kicked out of like, 90 of those in one match? Meh, whatever. Maybe we get a cash in tonight, maybe Braun holds out until HIAC.

All in all, the show was good like I mentioned but it could have been better. Of course it could have been. But that's what happens when the roster is so stacked. Long show too, jeez.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#166 » by Scott Hall » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:39 pm

Dominater wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
Spens1 wrote:I mean overall, it wasn't terrible (it was ok, solid enough, which is more than i expected).

WWE title match, US title match and raw womans title match for me all did well.

Show started off pretty badly but towards the end it improved (2nd half was pretty good actually).

Again though, these shows are way too long, they need to find a way to cut it down to 4 hours, the only show that should be more is Wrestlemania.

edit: key point though, they buried Owens for what? Also Miz winning makes me suspect, even if it was a DQ win.


I think the crowd affected the show...

I was expecting them to hijack the show coming in but instead they just went quiet from the very beginning
which is a bigger FU to Vince but the matches were solid and it affected the enjoyment to the viewer.

New York is usually what a top 5 top 10 city historically for crowd noise I just think most fans weren't interested
in these feuds coming in and Vince has given people reason to not care about these characters and gotten them over.

Vince has killed off KO, Roode, Lashley, Asuka, Sasha, Jinder, Moon, AOP, Rusev, Elias, Nia Jax, Sheamus, Cesaro, Usos,
Matt Hardy, Benjamin and Gable etc etc etc

While pushing jobbers as tag-team champions showing next to no interest in fixing the tag-division plus all the other
issues like having a champ that was never there, putting the womens tittle on hot chicks that can't wrestle, playing
favorites pushing Roman

Complacency kills


Add to that list Aries, who's shining in TNA right now. I wouldn't really call Alexa just a hot chick that can't wrestle. To me she's ok in the ring, but a great character and talker. Carmella is just mediocre all around and never should have sniffed the belt on a roster loaded with great wrestlers like Charloette, Asuka, and Becky


That's fair Alexa isn't bad but I'm not a big fan of her workrate there's probably a dozen womens wrestlers I'd
rather see wrestle a match then her but to be fair to both her and Carmella they're both still young pups and new
to the game and still developing. As for Carmella I think she's fantastic on the mic and promo's and plays one of
the better classic heels in the company.

I think where Carmella has really shined the most ironically is doing color commentary. If WWE is looking for a female
commentator screw Renee Young Mella is money no pun intended. Her chemistry with Graves and Saxton is really good.
But when it comes to big money match time on a big PPV she can't go and is exposed.

I'm starting to wonder if Carmella's tittle reign was just thrown together last minute as Charlotte ruptured
her breast implants and needed to take some time off and everyone else was booked for months so they gave
Carmella the ball and wanted to see if she could sink or swim. I just don't see after the Charlotte vs. Asuka
match at WM the long term plan being drop the belt to Carmella fast and have her drop the belt at Summerslam.

One thing about the womens roster is it isn't very deep especially with the brand split and most of the girls have
been on the roster for a few years and have feuded with each other already so it's a challenge to keep things fresh.
The Becky turn couldn't have come at a better time as Charlotte needed a fresh feud and I guess it makes sense
to bring Asuka, Moon, Absolution and the Riot Squad along slowly to preserve things.

One of my biggest gripes right now is it seems everyone is booked into long term feuds which makes for boring
TV because they give away the matches for free now on TV for weeks and we as an audience have short attention
spans. I have a hard time staying focused for a 1.5 hour movie let alone a 3 hour RAW or 7 hour PPV and with social
media it's distracting because if I start to zone out I'll start seeing what fans are saying on twitter or start bitching
on here and lose focus. I actually watched part of the Becky vs. Charlotte vs. Carmella match again and noticed
things I didn't catch the first time because I got distracted by the internet. What's also annoying is there's so many
long term feuds booked but so many wrestlers both male and female not doing anything that could create fresh
matchups to keep things fresh.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#167 » by Flames24Rulz » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:20 pm

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Flames24Rulz wrote:I actually think the card is solid. :-?


The cards for WWE PPVs usually are solid. It's the booking that tends to ruin them.


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To Jeff's credit, he made it look like he **** up his back, but pretty much landed on his upper thigh.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#170 » by LLJ » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:13 pm

The WWE is the only wrestling company to take the best talents in the world and then book everything the opposite of what fans want out of them.

It's clear they don't give a **** about what fans want, it's all about what Vince wants. He will just keep ramming through what he wants until fans give in or just get tired of it that they can't even boo anymore.

Pushes never really go anywhere anymore, and people increasingly tend to win belts out of the blue while totally cold with the crowds.

Title changes are never the happy moments they should be anymore. They are just thrown onto the person as quickly and lazily as possible in the worst produced matches you can think of for a title change. You want a proper title change moment, you look at Kairi Sane vs Shayna Baszler on Saturday; that's how you do it right. It should feel like a reward for the performer's hard work throughout the past few months. On the main roster it's just a cigar to pass around for the wrestlers to smoke with before they lose it to someone else who needs a smoke later on.

Putting on a good match on the main roster doesn't get you rewarded like on NXT. You can put on one of the best matches at Wrestlemania and then be left off the card of the 2nd biggest PPV 4 months later. You can kill yourself and take all the sickest bumps and still get booked to get squashed in 20 seconds to end a feud.

Heel champs are portrayed as weak and annoying, and faces dumb and lose way more often than they win.

Their TV ratings are deservingly dropping by the tens of thousands year by year.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#171 » by Ruzious » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:01 pm

Dominater wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
Spens1 wrote:I mean overall, it wasn't terrible (it was ok, solid enough, which is more than i expected).

WWE title match, US title match and raw womans title match for me all did well.

Show started off pretty badly but towards the end it improved (2nd half was pretty good actually).

Again though, these shows are way too long, they need to find a way to cut it down to 4 hours, the only show that should be more is Wrestlemania.

edit: key point though, they buried Owens for what? Also Miz winning makes me suspect, even if it was a DQ win.


I think the crowd affected the show...

I was expecting them to hijack the show coming in but instead they just went quiet from the very beginning
which is a bigger FU to Vince but the matches were solid and it affected the enjoyment to the viewer.

New York is usually what a top 5 top 10 city historically for crowd noise I just think most fans weren't interested
in these feuds coming in and Vince has given people reason to not care about these characters and gotten them over.

Vince has killed off KO, Roode, Lashley, Asuka, Sasha, Jinder, Moon, AOP, Rusev, Elias, Nia Jax, Sheamus, Cesaro, Usos,
Matt Hardy, Benjamin and Gable etc etc etc

While pushing jobbers as tag-team champions showing next to no interest in fixing the tag-division plus all the other
issues like having a champ that was never there, putting the womens tittle on hot chicks that can't wrestle, playing
favorites pushing Roman

Complacency kills


Add to that list Aries, who's shining in TNA right now. I wouldn't really call Alexa just a hot chick that can't wrestle. To me she's ok in the ring, but a great character and talker. Carmella is just mediocre all around and never should have sniffed the belt on a roster loaded with great wrestlers like Charloette, Asuka, and Becky

I think Mella and Alexa are equally bad. Alexa looks like a child in the ring, and we're supposed to believe that her punches can practically knock out much stronger and much more athletic women. At least Mella has some explosive athleticism to her - even if she's no better at wrestling. It was good that both of them lost convincingly last night.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

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I'm in pain watching him do swantons at 40. Honestly, he's at the age where he should either change his entire style or just teach aspiring rasslers or write a book or do the autograph signing network. I don't want to hear about him needing to rehab from pain pills or taking an overdose (God forbid). He can still get it done in the ring, but he could live a great life for another 40 plus years. Why risk that? Go out on top on your own terms.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#173 » by Dominator83 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:04 pm

bestnamezRtaken wrote:This year's SummerSlam show was good, not great, but good. Couple of stinkers in there, some good matches, some solid matches. Not as bad as some people make it out to be but it's hard to please a million people all at the same time, hahaha.

I missed Almas/Vega v Rusev/Lana. I may go back and watch it just because of Rusev and Almas. I think we all knew that Almas/Vega was going to win too, so no shocker here.

I also missed Cedric and Gulak, will have to go back and watch it but it sounds like it ended up with a roll up victory, which is kind of lame. Oh well.

I did see the B Team beat the Revival. Those thinking or hoping the Revival was going to win, delusional fans. They aren't going to end this title run for at least a few more months, as crappy as that sounds. Unless eventually we start to really see the intensity of Bo Dallas that I guess he showed in NXT. Trust the process I guess? I dunno, lol. There's a reason they're keeping the B Team away from the AOP...it'll be them that take the tag titles off of them I think.

Seth v Zigg was good. Seeing Dean square up to Drew was cool. Dean just looks so much better now then with that shaggy crap haircut he had. He looks believable as a lunatic. I thought we were going to get the heel turn here because there was an angle they were doing, where Seth was standing with the title looking at Dolph and Drew going back and Dean was behind Seth and it was the perfect opportunity but it didn't happen. Dean looked a little distant in the ring with him though. So it's coming soon. Good match to open up the show.

The New Day v the Bludgeon Bros was good, I was okay with the ending. Though I thought it was an odd spot for it. Because Rowan was down for quite a bit where it looked like New Day was going to steal the win but at the time when you'd expect Rowan to be back up getting his second wind, that's where he does the DQ? At the point where he started using his mallet, is usually the point where the they are getting their second wind and then finish the match. Push Woods off the top, taking a fall like that to the outside usually renders the victim down for 3-5 minutes. With Woods being out, this gives them the opportunity to double team Big E for the win...but okay. They're the heels, they needed a screwy finish I suppose. I just hope the New Day aren't the ones to take the titles off them. Like someone mentioned, they need to have a triple threat in order to keep these two looking strong.

I was okay with Braun destroying Owens to keep the briefcase. Why? Well, with a finish like this, hopefully it means the end of this feud, which will mean that KO can move on to someone else to get a more meaningful feud going. Unless the plan is to have Braun cash in tonight on Raw and have Owens screw him over...that might be interesting. I kind of hope not though because I don't want to see any more of Braun v KO for awhile. KO deserves better. But like I said, I was okay with this squash match, because it usually means the end of a feud when it's done like this. It just felt like this was the conclusion. Let's all pray together, haha.

Charlotte v Becky v Carmella was good. I enjoyed the match. I know someone asked earlier about Charlotte's boobs being bigger, yes they are. Part of the reason she was off TV for a bit, was because she was getting both of her implants fixed. Anyways, back to the match. I like the story they were telling, you could tell a Becky heel turn was coming. Although I wanted Becky to win, I'm okay with Charlotte winning because it's better than having Carmella keep the title. The Becky heel turn was such a nice pop though. She needed the heel turn too in my opinion. I'll take a Becky/Charlotte feud. It means that Becky is going to become champ at some point. With the way they went back and forth between her and Sasha, it'll make for a decent to good feud. This is what the Raw feud should be too for the title....Sasha v Bayley. Then you'd had all four of the horsewomen in feuds with each other. Anyways, great match, great finish, great heel turn. I'll take it.

Now, I didn't like that Joe v AJ was in the middle of the show. AJ has NEVER main evented a PPV since becoming WWE champion. It's crazy! I wasn't expecting him to main event SS with Brock v Roman but at least put it closer to the end....blah, whatever. The match was good. Joe makes such a great heel. I'll take the screwy DQ finish if it means having these two feud for a bit longer. That Styles Clash Joe took looked scary too but these two are so good that I wasn't even worried about it. Joe picking up the mic to say "I"ll be your daddy" was freaking awesome. Great match, great storytelling. It was a little awkward with AJ bleeding and going to his wife and daughter, you can clearly hear her say "Daddy you're bleeding" and he takes her and she's like, nah not when you looking like this! She was probably scared with AJ bleeding. It's understandable. I do like that Joe teased the Muscle Buster though too! If anyone knows how to take that bump, it's AJ, but I don't think Vince will ever let Joe do it on the main roster.

Miz v DB was good. It does look like the feud will be going on a little bit longer, or it could mean that DB didn't resign and he's gonna be leaving. Either way, it was a good match, I was okay with the heel finish. Maybe we see Brie v Maryse at Evolution? Seeing the welts on Miz's chest was cool too. But I felt like this match should have given us more. I do agree with what other people were saying as far as, these two hate each other, it shouldn't be a wrestling match but more of a fight, but I think it's because there were no stipulations, like a street fight or no DQ or last man standing, etc. But I think there might be a bigger plan for the feud, hopefully we get something along those lines. Corey Graves acting like Miz's knock out punch was like Show doing it, hahaha. He's too funny.

Demon Finn v Corbin was awesome. I loved this matched to be honest. We got to see the Demon and it was a freaking squash match! It was the perfect way to use Demon Balor too because this is like an unlocked Finn, a Finn that comes out on rare occasions to destroy his opponent. This does mean that, they are implying that Seth Rollins is light years stronger and better than Corbin (which yes it's very very true) but like, Rollins almost beat the Demon, Styles almost beat the Demon...Corbin couldn't last two minutes with the Demon. I know WWE doesn't think about stuff like that and I am well aware that Corbin doesn't compare to Seth or AJ at all, so don't even try to twist my words into something like that, but it was just a thought, haha. I was wondering why they were having this match go on so late. :lol:

Shin v Jeff was fine. I think this match was heavily planned due to the injuries of Jeff. I was reading an article on Jeff saying that his hand has finally woken up (no pun intended) as it had been asleep for the last 2 months, like wtf dude been wrestling like that the last two months? And then he said his back is pretty banged up and that he doesn't do the swanton bomb anymore at house shows because it kills him so much as he's been using the twist of fate as a finishing move and only pulls out the swanton during TV shows or PPVs and I'm thinking, okay yeah that makes sense. Dude is 40, he needs to start taking it easy....and then he swantons the hardest part of the ring and completely misses Shin...f*ck me man, what are you doing Jeff? Hopefully this means he gets put on the shelf for some much needed time off. Keep the title on Shin and away from Orton please.

Ronda v Alexa...I just didn't really care for. I know a lot of people wanted her to have a dominating victory and a quick squash match, but it did nothing for me. I don't buy her as a champion right now. To me, this match was very flat, tried to give her her feel good moment but all I could think about was her poorly done makeup (Becky's too!) and just how boring it was. She's not ready to be champion yet in my opinion. I think they needed to have Sasha or Bayley turn heel, have one of them as champion because they are legit, have Ronda feud with one of them to win the title, that would of given her a much more meaningful title win. This was a stinker for me.

Roman v Brock was interesting. I thought Braun was going to cash in at the start of the match to make it a triple threat, but I was okay with him standing outside of the ring. Now, the match itself was meh but the storytelling with it was fine. I liked that Brock was focused on Braun and f***ing tossed his briefcase all the way up the ramp and just beat the piss out of him...I didn't like that it took one spear to end one of the longest title reigns. We all needed more, Roman literally did two moves. Super man punch times 5, and spear times 2? 3? That's supposed to end Brock? Who was so dominate for the past year and a half? After he kicked out of like, 90 of those in one match? Meh, whatever. Maybe we get a cash in tonight, maybe Braun holds out until HIAC.

All in all, the show was good like I mentioned but it could have been better. Of course it could have been. But that's what happens when the roster is so stacked. Long show too, jeez.


While WWE is far removed from its heyday, I love this guys positive attitude. Reading some of these posts in this thread, i think we have reached the point of being way too predisposed to just crap on everything WWE. I watched SS and I think it was a rock solid show. Not great, but pretty good. Dolph/Seth was a great way to open. Yea it started a little slow, but at the end of the day we got 2 great workers putting on a long match that was more good than bad. Womens 3 way was good, and it upgraded to great with the post match Becky turn. Joe/AJ was awesome, cool finish too as a way to keep this thing going and build some more bad blood. Of course everyone did love the Demon, and destroying Corbin as he should have. I agree the Rousey thing wasn't good especially with that makeup. Shes way too raw (no pun intended) to have the belt already. Maybe they originally planned to have Natty screw her. Would've made a ton of sense being that if gives Ronda a real feud with a seasoned veteran that can work. But with her dad dying just a week ago, probably not comfortable going back heel so soon. Roman getting the belt kinda sucks, but atleast the belt is back in the rotation

All in all though i think the show was better than most give it credit for. Then again, I didnt watch the preshow. My biggest complaint is the Owens thing though. Especially with the stipulation that a DQ will cost Braun the briefcase, they could've played that angle to keep you on the edge of yourseat for a 20 minute back and forth match. Instead we get a squash
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion (August 19th, 2018) 

Post#174 » by improper » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:55 am

Dominater wrote:While WWE is far removed from its heyday, I love this guys positive attitude. Reading some of these posts in this thread, i think we have reached the point of being way too predisposed to just crap on everything WWE. I watched SS and I think it was a rock solid show. Not great, but pretty good. Dolph/Seth was a great way to open. Yea it started a little slow, but at the end of the day we got 2 great workers putting on a long match that was more good than bad. Womens 3 way was good, and it upgraded to great with the post match Becky turn. Joe/AJ was awesome, cool finish too as a way to keep this thing going and build some more bad blood. Of course everyone did love the Demon, and destroying Corbin as he should have. I agree the Rousey thing wasn't good especially with that makeup. Shes way too raw (no pun intended) to have the belt already. Maybe they originally planned to have Natty screw her. Would've made a ton of sense being that if gives Ronda a real feud with a seasoned veteran that can work. But with her dad dying just a week ago, probably not comfortable going back heel so soon. Roman getting the belt kinda sucks, but atleast the belt is back in the rotation

All in all though i think the show was better than most give it credit for. Then again, I didnt watch the preshow. My biggest complaint is the Owens thing though. Especially with the stipulation that a DQ will cost Braun the briefcase, they could've played that angle to keep you on the edge of yourseat for a 20 minute back and forth match. Instead we get a squash


I think the issue is that, if your wrestling company is hoarding 75% of the best talent in the world, you need the cards to live up to that. And while Summerslam was a fine PPV, it never really rose any higher than good. And when you've got 75% of the best wrestlers in the world, good just isn't acceptable.

This is especially true when we regularly see NXT put on a better-worked, better-booked show every single time they work the same weekend as a WWE PPV.
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Re: WWE SummerSlam Discussion 

Post#175 » by Gereads » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:12 pm

Wait is the show over?

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