AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion

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AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door Discussion 

Post#1 » by iMoreland » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:40 pm

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Post#2 » by slickrickstyles » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:28 pm

With the insane amount of injuries and the lack of information for domestic fans that are not familiar with NJPW and their roster I worry that this is going to bomb bad...Rampage just had it's lowest ratings ever last week and Dynamite is not holding well during this build either.
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Post#3 » by Dominater » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:46 am

slickrickstyles wrote:With the insane amount of injuries and the lack of information for domestic fans that are not familiar with NJPW and their roster I worry that this is going to bomb bad...Rampage just had it's lowest ratings ever last week and Dynamite is not holding well during this build either.

Well I already have my tickets so there's no turning back for me lol. But I still feel like it will atleast be entrrtaining to watch. Now it looks like Okada will atleast be in action. But yea we need like a surprise Kenny Omega return and face Niato or something to really deliver
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Post#4 » by Lord Eder » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:43 pm

I feel like the problem with the build to this one is that AEW too often goes for the surprise shock value. The people in the arena seem to pop for whoever comes out unexpectedly but I'm sure there's tons at home, myself included, who are just lost on who these people are and why I should be excited. There should've been vignettes leading up but rather they seem to be going for the pop.

With that said, this is a cool idea and show, it's introduced me to some wrestlers that I'll probably be interested in from here out. Just think it could've been handled better for someone more 'casual' like me. Not sure if the ratings reflect this feeling, I know they've been up against the finals of the NBA as well as the NHL, that could also have something to do with it. Like I missed Malakai-Penta last night because I got lost in the hockey game and that was the match I was looking forward to this week.
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Post#5 » by heatwillbeback » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:33 pm

The one match I don’t understand at all is Thunder Rosa/Storm. It just doesn’t fit the point of this show.

I would have preferred a competent NJPW female wrestler and to save Storm/Rosa for another time.

I’m looking forward to this one. Watching at a local AMC theater.
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Post#6 » by slickrickstyles » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:15 pm

Lord Eder wrote:I feel like the problem with the build to this one is that AEW too often goes for the surprise shock value. The people in the arena seem to pop for whoever comes out unexpectedly but I'm sure there's tons at home, myself included, who are just lost on who these people are and why I should be excited. There should've been vignettes leading up but rather they seem to be going for the pop.

With that said, this is a cool idea and show, it's introduced me to some wrestlers that I'll probably be interested in from here out. Just think it could've been handled better for someone more 'casual' like me. Not sure if the ratings reflect this feeling, I know they've been up against the finals of the NBA as well as the NHL, that could also have something to do with it. Like I missed Malakai-Penta last night because I got lost in the hockey game and that was the match I was looking forward to this week.



Dont use the term "casual" around social media...Dear god the iwc trolls will rip you a part that there is no such thing as a casual fan etc...Uh yeah there is and I know lots of people who only watch from time to time...Hell some that don't even realize AEW exists and just think that certain guys retired I am sure. I love that AEW exists and we needed a real alternative bad but the pretentious nature of expecting everyone to do their own research or to expect everyone to just know about your product is it's biggest issue.
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Post#7 » by slickrickstyles » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:16 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:The one match I don’t understand at all is Thunder Rosa/Storm. It just doesn’t fit the point of this show.

I would have preferred a competent NJPW female wrestler and to save Storm/Rosa for another time.

I’m looking forward to this one. Watching at a local AMC theater.


It was just to get the females on the card I am sure. What is more damaging is the fact that there isn't a single african american on the show and AEW has always had issues with bait and switch representation.
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Post#8 » by Lord Eder » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:00 am

This has been a phenomenal show so far
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Post#9 » by Dubious Handles » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:19 am

the first three matches are amazing so far. That championship watch was awesome!! PAC deserves it and they set up Miro vs. Malakai
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Post#10 » by Dubious Handles » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:21 am

AEW PPVs never disappoint
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Post#11 » by Dominater » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:24 am

The 4 way for the IWGP was the match of the night IMO
Didn't like the Coby White pick. Preferred Rui. Now go out and make me look stupid Coby!
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Post#12 » by tugs » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:28 am

Was that a botched finish, though? Cole suddenly fell and dodged the Rainmaker and Jay pinned him instead of Okada?
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Post#13 » by Dubious Handles » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:54 am

tugs wrote:Was that a botched finish, though? Cole suddenly fell and dodged the Rainmaker and Jay pinned him instead of Okada?


Looked like it. AC got injured so they had to abruptly end the match

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Post#14 » by heatwillbeback » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:01 pm

High quality wrestling PPV for sure.

One qualm I have is the end. Forbidden Door to me is bigger than Blood and Guts. I don’t like using the end of a big PPV to advertise and build for a tv match. Which also left Tahahashi completely out of place.

Not to mention the Chicago crowd wanted somebody very specific to show up, and it wasn’t Jericho :lol:

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