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Post#1181 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Jan 7, 2021 4:47 pm

AirCanadaMouse wrote:Great episode, just very enjoyable from top to bottom. Fun matches all around.

- Acclaimed actually had a nice rap for once, I like this SCU stipulation, Kaz deserves a singles run, and with the Bucks solidified heel turn, this is a good way to end the SCU team. I wouldn’t mind SCU building up wins and having them lose at the PPV for the title and thus ending their team.

- Wardlow vs. Hager was awesome, both have legit mma backgrounds and love how they used it. Loved this match, honestly was made for me, lol.

- PvP segment with Snoop and Matt, a little shot towards WWE. I dig it. They had snoop play a small role , got the gin and juice reference out the way and advanced a storyline. well done, warming up to Matt as a heel now.

- Sting shows up again to point at Tazz, this weigh in stuff was non sense given their sizes. This was the only down moment of the show. Sting needs to be used better and more sparingly.

- Marko Stunt just absolutely sucks.

- Cody vs. Sydal was an awesome match too. They didn’t over do it with Snoop post match too, and thought his splash on a jobber was just fine. Doesn’t hurt anyone on the card unlike when wwe had him beat Curtis Axel silly.

- aew women’s match!!! Well done, and amazing job by the commentary making the Abadon gimmick believable and not insulting the audience. I’ve loved this feud, I love abandon’s gimmick, and Shida is amazing. She makes everyone look so good despite lack of in ring skill.

- Fenix / Omega was even better than I was expecting, what an amazing match, one of the best in dynamite history. And that ending was just so amazing, I felt like aew has missing these moments where they close out on a huge ending, but they really delivered here

Loved it!


Definitely agree on the Sting part. If he’s going to be used the same exact way week to week, then he simply doesn’t need to be on every episode. It’s more of a disservice at this point because he isn’t doing anything.

And AEW hasn’t had enough of these post match antics, in general. Sometimes it’s not a strong enough note to end the show on — to just have the match end with no fall out afterward. So much happened after that fantastic match that leaves you wanting more for next week( Mox v Omega, the Bullet Club reforming, how does the Bucks fit in exactly ?).
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Post#1182 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 pm

Last nights Dynamite was solid.

The Omega/Good Brothers vs Griff/Pillman/Limelight was an okay match. If this Mox vs Omega angle is going to end in a 5 on 5 Blood and Guts match, then how is FTR not in this angle? I feel like they’re trying to give Lucha Bros some shine, but they’re just not there, to me. Also, it feels like they’re all over the card sometimes.

The NWA women’s title match went a bit too long, for me. I like Serena Deeb the more I see her, but my goodness, that must’ve been 20 minutes.

FTR beating Jurassic Express was the right (and only) way to go. Stunt got in more offense than I cared to see, however.

The video package for Darby vs Cage was one of the better ones AEW has produced. The match itself was pretty good, with Cage dominating much of it. Sting making the save was predicatable, but I didn’t mind it. I did think they could’ve muddied up the finish more to protect Cage a bit. A crucifix bomb off the second rope beats him clean? Idk. Just seems out of place on this show when everyone kicks out everything — and here you have your big, talented good looking heel and he’s beat squeaky clean. I don’t mind Darby going over at all though, fwiw.
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Post#1183 » by AirCanadaMouse » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:34 pm

- Show had its moments. can’t believe they had PAC vs. Kingston as the opener, that could’ve been a feud fit for PPV, I had no idea who was going to win it, love that aew gives us clear winners and losers.

Kingston got totally dominated and would’ve liked to see him get some more offence in. But it tells the story that PAC gets his revenge. But is this enough ?

- Miro slowly being built up. Wish they had him squash Chuck since this was a short match. I hope they have Miro beat OC too since that’s what they’re going with next. How dominate would that be?

- I want to cheer for Sammy so badly but he’s awful on the mic. Santana on the other hand is very good, loved his line at the end.

- Man, I laughed my ass off with the Good Brothers swerve.. I should’ve been disappointed with no Kenny / bucks but this was such an entertaining twist while allowing nick to heal from leg injury. Well booked.

- waiting room segment was weird. The thunder Rosa video in her room, I get she had covid but it was just goofy lol. Jade is awful on the mic but at least she has the look. Vickie would be a great fit for her. This segment was just all over the place.

- Again. Marko Stunt absolutely sucks and has no business being in AEW. This match went way too long and Marko botched a few moves. Just awful.

- Serena Deeb looks amazing, AJ Styles like entrance too. I loved the chain wrestling here. She should be featured way more. Conti had some shaky moments but Deeb carried it all the way. I enjoyed this match for the most part.

- I love Brian Cage. This guy actually looks like a wrestler and moves like a cruiser weight. The table spot was crazy, just a huge fan of Cage. Stamina is limited but with the right spots like this match, he can flourish. He lost to Mox and now Darby, he needs a major win soon. Too talented.


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Post#1184 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:35 am

Wasn’t super high on this show. Kind of skimmed through half of it but:

..too much Brodie Lee jr. ? I think so. Didn’t mind the segment all that much but didn’t do anything for me. Starting the show with the Dark Order vs Luther/Serpentico wasn’t strong though. Hangman’s presence made it watchable, but just barely.

Cody v Avalon went entirely too long. At least 15 minutes, and I just don’t care to see Avalon at all. Weird pacing to the match with Cargill coming out for the distraction — but it not being enough to cost him. Avalon was working the knee of Cody but felt like Cody wasn’t selling right/consistently.

Layla Hirsch v Ford must’ve went 15+ minutes as well. Didn’t care for the match and don’t care for Miro, Kip, OC or Taylor either.

I wish they’d give Sting/Darby the same amount of time that they give these other angles/matches. Every week they get like 2-3 minutes and do the same thing. Still, this was the most watchable segment, for me. Taz is always on the money with his promos also.

The Young Bucks/Calis scene was nonsense. Terrible acting. So they align with Kenny two weeks ago but now they’re so miffed because the Good Brothers replaced them last week that they rough up Calis ? Just not strong enough a line of reasoning. Also, everyone is like this weird pseudo-heel.
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Post#1185 » by tugs » Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:55 am

Just excited for Matt and Private Party. I would agree on too much -1 exposure. I just hope they think they are honoring Brodie with this.

And I'm amazed how much I lost interest with Miro and Sting. I can't see the end game for Miro and the pace with Sting's storyline is slow, which is ok if there is a progression and variety but the only thing with both is the snow falling.

Mox is still very solid. Read somewhere that he should've brought the NJPW US Title, that would've nuts. Probably saving it until the partnership is clear between the 2 companies.
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Post#1186 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:32 am

AEW has a huge problem with babyfaces. Everyone in that company wants to be the cool heel.
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Post#1187 » by The_Brecht » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:49 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:AEW has a huge problem with babyfaces. Everyone in that company wants to be the cool heel.


Moxley is the prototype of a huge badass face character.
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Post#1188 » by AirCanadaMouse » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:50 pm

- please no more Jericho in the ring. It’s time. He almost broke his neck with the botched lionsault. Which is awful because that was the one thing he had going for him, it was cool to see him pull it off at his age but now it’s a total no-no.

- Penelope Ford is smoking hot.

- I have no problem with the -1 segment, actually liked how they transitioned that birthday segment into the dark order tag match to the Adam page storyline. Good enough for me tbh, gives the match some backstory

- aew managed to completely ruin sting for me.

- The finish to the Cody / Peter match felt so flat.

- I actually like the look of the jobber they used against Mox , there’s potential there

- kudos to aew for turning this Matt Hardy storyline into something really interesting. I had go away heat with Matt, but he’s tapping that into a heel manager role and PvP edgier move set would be a great touch. Good way to get them more on the heel side.

- very passable show. Moving on now


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Post#1189 » by tugs » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:45 am

Ooof yeah that lionsault without enough air was scary. Amazing how much Jericho fell off. I'm worried
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Post#1190 » by daoneandonly » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:56 pm

Thought it was a solid episode.

Thinking the Inner Circle turns on Jericho through MJF's manipulation, but Sammy will side with Y2J and they'll be the faces.
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Post#1191 » by The_Brecht » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:02 am

daoneandonly wrote:Thought it was a solid episode.

Thinking the Inner Circle turns on Jericho through MJF's manipulation, but Sammy will side with Y2J and they'll be the faces.


Sammy, Ortiz and Santana will turn face first.
Jericho will go to the end at which he'll be alienated from anyone and will be a lonely man.
A little memory to the best friends thing with Owens.

I thought it was a bad show tbh.
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Post#1192 » by Scott Hall » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:06 am

Yeah I thought it was a nothing show as well I missed Jericho botching the Lionsault I guess I wasn't paying
attention I need to find a clip of this.
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Post#1193 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:10 am

Scott Hall wrote:Yeah I thought it was a nothing show as well I missed Jericho botching the Lionsault I guess I wasn't paying
attention I need to find a clip of this.


I found a stand-alone video of it on YouTube. Just searched “Jericho lionsault fail,” and it was one of the top ones. I don’t know if his muscles just gave out or what, but he hit the ropes and kind of hesitated before doing the flip. Could’ve been ten times worse.
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Post#1194 » by Scott Hall » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:39 pm

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:Yeah I thought it was a nothing show as well I missed Jericho botching the Lionsault I guess I wasn't paying
attention I need to find a clip of this.


I found a stand-alone video of it on YouTube. Just searched “Jericho lionsault fail,” and it was one of the top ones. I don’t know if his muscles just gave out or what, but he hit the ropes and kind of hesitated before doing the flip. Could’ve been ten times worse.


Thanks.... yeah I did a Twitter search and it came up right away. I don't think it was bad as it sounded but still not good
he look kind of gassed when he attempted it. But make no mistake about it Jericho has rapidly declined the last several
months. I remember giving him props for beating father time and being the best late 40's wrestler I've ever seen but since
then he's hit an ice burg.

50 seems to be the magic number for when guys are pretty much toast of being solid performers. Most guys Jerichos age
traditionally work part time so maybe because Jericho is full time it's speeding up the process or not giving him enough
time to recover.

The DX vs. Brothers of Destruction match and Goldberg vs. Taker in Saudi Arabia should be the poster of old guys
sticking around to long and having those blemishes on your legacy. I'm sure they don't care because of the pay day
but still I wouldn't want those performances on my resume.

I guess RVD is now the best late 40's/early 50's wrestler he can still do most of his moveset just in extreme slow motion lol
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Post#1195 » by improper » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:07 pm

I don't think there's a bigger poster child for "know when to call it quits" than Undertaker. Holy sh*t were his last few matches (aside from the Boneyard match, which doesn't really count since it was pre-shot and edited) absolute stink bombs.

Really wish he'd have lost that match to Wyatt the year after the streak ended and called it a career.
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Post#1196 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:30 pm

Thought it was an okay episode of Dynamite.

Sting/Darby segment was pretty cool. The follow up Team Taz segment was pretty good as well.

Jungle Boy vs Dax was a really good match. Love Jungle Boy’s theme also. I don’t mind him going over but it was surprising that he got a clean tap.

Main event fell flat for me. Just can’t take Dark Order serious in that spot. This Bullet Club storyline doesn’t make enough sense either.
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Post#1197 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:19 pm

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:Thought it was an okay episode of Dynamite.

Sting/Darby segment was pretty cool. The follow up Team Taz segment was pretty good as well.

Jungle Boy vs Dax was a really good match. Love Jungle Boy’s theme also. I don’t mind him going over but it was surprising that he got a clean tap.

Main event fell flat for me. Just can’t take Dark Order serious in that spot. This Bullet Club storyline doesn’t make enough sense either.


Just read that Dax had a huge role in the layout of the match and wanted to put JB over clean with the tap to start his assent as a superstar baby face. Good on Dax for doing that, and Jungle Boy is definitely as deserving as anyone on that roster.
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Post#1198 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:02 pm

Amare_1_Knicks wrote:
Amare_1_Knicks wrote:Thought it was an okay episode of Dynamite.

Sting/Darby segment was pretty cool. The follow up Team Taz segment was pretty good as well.

Jungle Boy vs Dax was a really good match. Love Jungle Boy’s theme also. I don’t mind him going over but it was surprising that he got a clean tap.

Main event fell flat for me. Just can’t take Dark Order serious in that spot. This Bullet Club storyline doesn’t make enough sense either.


Just read that Dax had a huge role in the layout of the match and wanted to put JB over clean with the tap to start his assent as a superstar baby face. Good on Dax for doing that, and Jungle Boy is definitely as deserving as anyone on that roster.

Jungle Boy is one of the more likable young guys in the business and continues to improve. Dax volunteering to do the job is proof of that and proof of what a great professional Dax is. That was wonderful to watch.
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Post#1199 » by Dominator83 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:51 pm

Scott Hall wrote:
Amare_1_Knicks wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:Yeah I thought it was a nothing show as well I missed Jericho botching the Lionsault I guess I wasn't paying
attention I need to find a clip of this.


I found a stand-alone video of it on YouTube. Just searched “Jericho lionsault fail,” and it was one of the top ones. I don’t know if his muscles just gave out or what, but he hit the ropes and kind of hesitated before doing the flip. Could’ve been ten times worse.


Thanks.... yeah I did a Twitter search and it came up right away. I don't think it was bad as it sounded but still not good
he look kind of gassed when he attempted it. But make no mistake about it Jericho has rapidly declined the last several
months. I remember giving him props for beating father time and being the best late 40's wrestler I've ever seen but since
then he's hit an ice burg.

50 seems to be the magic number for when guys are pretty much toast of being solid performers. Most guys Jerichos age
traditionally work part time so maybe because Jericho is full time it's speeding up the process or not giving him enough
time to recover.

The DX vs. Brothers of Destruction match and Goldberg vs. Taker in Saudi Arabia should be the poster of old guys
sticking around to long and having those blemishes on your legacy. I'm sure they don't care because of the pay day
but still I wouldn't want those performances on my resume.

I guess RVD is now the best late 40's/early 50's wrestler he can still do most of his moveset just in extreme slow motion lol

RVD is my favorite of all time. Even I see how much slower he is now. Long gone are the days of him getting to the top rope on a single hop
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Post#1200 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Feb 4, 2021 11:08 am

Someone explain to me what Joey Janela has done, either in real life or in kayfabe, to deserve a shot at the TNT title? Why is he given these positions ? Not long ago he was in the main event of Dynamite vs Omega. I get that he’s kind of like they’re go-to jobber to beat (in a sense), but at the same time the match is probably going to go like 15 minutes.

The Sting/Darby vs Team Taz feud has to be one of the most repetitive angles of all time. It seems like the same thing week to week. Either Taz interrupts them on the big screen or the lights go out and Sting makes some kind of save. Since they were always trying to play the long game of getting from DEC to MARCH to have this feud culminate, they obviously didn’t need to be on TV every week (sting sure didn’t).

The whole wedding deal went on for far too long. The segment went like 20 minutes, all for the big Orange Cassidy save...it was a waste of TV time to further this underneath, lower mid-card angle. Just couldn’t care less about any of this.

Did Jericho and MJF really need to win the battle Royal? I found myself rooting for Jungle Boy, but when he got eliminated, I was rooting for the Top Flight kid. I suppose it makes the card more attractive on paper to have Jericho/MJF vs Bucks, but after last week I thought they should’ve continued Jack’s momentum. Still, this needs to end with someone turning on someone — this angles been going too long.

Some of the Baker v. Rosa match was sloppy, but I like both girls (and Reba). It was watchable and I loved the finish.

Thought the main event was okay. Fell a little flat for me — think they should start following the WWE outline and open the show with a promo that ties to the main event. Kenta showing up was cool, but I’m a little lost on what it means. Like, it would be more exciting if he was going to be a full time performer for their show but as it is with the Good Brothers, it’s likely a temporary partnership(?).

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