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Post#1201 » by improper » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:13 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:For Nia’s sake, I do hope it’s a work. If not, the receipts are coming. Right now she’s protected, but eventually the company will sour on her and once that happens it’s gonna be a battle field. You can’t consistently hurt respected workers and then display a “lol” attitude about it without repercussions. To be honest, her getting potatoed would be just about the only allure of watching a Nia Jax match.


I don't know if they'll ever sour on her. Tamina is totally worthless and she's been around forever. I won't say Natalya is worthless, but she's been someone that literally no one gives a sh*t about for the better part of a decade and she's still always on TV.
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Post#1202 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:44 am

I think there’s a reason Tamina is around and it has nothing to do with wrestling. That being said, it’s not like she’s ever been treated as anything more than a henchmen or jobber.
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Post#1203 » by tugs » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:45 am

In Tamina's defense, she was packaged as a female supahfly before this gimmick. She packed on weight and had to change her offense. Not saying much though. Bet y'all don't remember her pairing with Santino.

As a believable female "monster", whole package wise, I'm going with Tamina over Nia
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Post#1204 » by Scott Hall » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:11 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:For Nia’s sake, I do hope it’s a work. If not, the receipts are coming. Right now she’s protected, but eventually the company will sour on her and once that happens it’s gonna be a battle field. You can’t consistently hurt respected workers and then display a “lol” attitude about it without repercussions. To be honest, her getting potatoed would be just about the only allure of watching a Nia Jax match.


I don't know if they'll ever sour on her. Tamina is totally worthless and she's been around forever. I won't say Natalya is worthless, but she's been someone that literally no one gives a sh*t about for the better part of a decade and she's still always on TV.


Agreed about Tamina... when it comes to Natalya she's one of the few female wrestlers that actually
knows how to work and makes a solid hand and depth piece for the division. There's been so many
green women wrestlers that have been thrown on tv to early or NXT call ups that need more seasoning
and Natalya usually gets paired with them early to be the ring general and mentor them. She's basically
the head trainer and coach of the main roster female wrestlers. So she's an asset to the company in
a big way in that regard plus she's never injured and a good solider.
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Post#1205 » by tugs » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:56 am

Natalya basically is the female counterpart of Dolph
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Post#1206 » by Ruzious » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:34 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:If all things are the exact same, except Nia isn’t related to the Anoa’i family, what are the chances she’s employed by wwe?

For the life of me I don’t see what she brings to the table. No charisma, no athleticism, sloppy, reckless, can’t cut a promo. She’s instant change the channel heat with me.

Many are speculating that this whole thing with her being an unsafe wrestler is all part of a work. If that’s the case then WWE is heading down a PG Russo rabbit hole. There’s no need to blur the lines of reality and kayfabe. Everyone that still watches their product is aware that it’s not real. There’s no end game here for anyone that involves getting someone over.

For Nia’s sake, I do hope it’s a work. If not, the receipts are coming. Right now she’s protected, but eventually the company will sour on her and once that happens it’s gonna be a battle field. You can’t consistently hurt respected workers and then display a “lol” attitude about it without repercussions. To be honest, her getting potatoed would be just about the only allure of watching a Nia Jax match.

It could be part work and part real if WWE is turning a blind eye to this because they know Kairi Sane is not going to complain. I'm just speculating, but If that's the case, and Sane did get injured, WWE is off the rails. Btw, did she get injured?
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Post#1207 » by The_Brecht » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:58 am

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jakecronus8 wrote:If all things are the exact same, except Nia isn’t related to the Anoa’i family, what are the chances she’s employed by wwe?

For the life of me I don’t see what she brings to the table. No charisma, no athleticism, sloppy, reckless, can’t cut a promo. She’s instant change the channel heat with me.

Many are speculating that this whole thing with her being an unsafe wrestler is all part of a work. If that’s the case then WWE is heading down a PG Russo rabbit hole. There’s no need to blur the lines of reality and kayfabe. Everyone that still watches their product is aware that it’s not real. There’s no end game here for anyone that involves getting someone over.

For Nia’s sake, I do hope it’s a work. If not, the receipts are coming. Right now she’s protected, but eventually the company will sour on her and once that happens it’s gonna be a battle field. You can’t consistently hurt respected workers and then display a “lol” attitude about it without repercussions. To be honest, her getting potatoed would be just about the only allure of watching a Nia Jax match.

It could be part work and part real if WWE is turning a blind eye to this because they know Kairi Sane is not going to complain. I'm just speculating, but If that's the case, and Sane did get injured, WWE is off the rails. Btw, did she get injured?


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Post#1208 » by JohnPferdelack » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:13 am

A. Crews with a push?
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Post#1209 » by iMoreland » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:23 am

Glad they're finally giving Apollo a fair shot. That slap to Andrade (was an awesome slap btw) was the most intense he's ever been in WWE. Seems like they gave him a redemption arc story tonight to eventually win the US title from Andrade. Andrade probably takes his spot in MITB and potentially wins it.

Another MITB winner I'd like: Buddy Murphy. After the Drew/Seth match (Drew wins), Murphy attacks Drew but Murphy gives Seth the MITB to cash in. A story like that can eventually be star making for Murphy. Have him help Seth win and keep the title. Until he gets sick of doing it and turns on Seth. Becomes a super babyface and takes the title from Seth.
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Post#1210 » by The_Brecht » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:45 am

I really enjoyed the contract signing segment.
Great work by both Rollins and Drew.
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Post#1211 » by iMoreland » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:56 pm

Samoa Joe is amazing on commentary. If his in ring career is over, he should have a permanent spot there.
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Post#1212 » by improper » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:54 pm

iMoreland wrote:Glad they're finally giving Apollo a fair shot. That slap to Andrade (was an awesome slap btw) was the most intense he's ever been in WWE. Seems like they gave him a redemption arc story tonight to eventually win the US title from Andrade. Andrade probably takes his spot in MITB and potentially wins it.

Another MITB winner I'd like: Buddy Murphy. After the Drew/Seth match (Drew wins), Murphy attacks Drew but Murphy gives Seth the MITB to cash in. A story like that can eventually be star making for Murphy. Have him help Seth win and keep the title. Until he gets sick of doing it and turns on Seth. Becomes a super babyface and takes the title from Seth.


Personally, I just find it really hard to get invested in any WWE guys these days because you know Vince will eventually get bored with anyone who isn't Roman Reigns and toss them back into the jobber pile eventually.
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Post#1214 » by Stanford » Tue May 5, 2020 3:09 am

Just watch the Asuka segments and you'll have a good time watching Raw.
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Post#1215 » by iMoreland » Tue May 5, 2020 3:57 am

They edited Roman out of Seth's cash in highlight package. He hasn't been mentioned on TV since he pulled out of the WM match. He pissed someone off.
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Post#1216 » by tugs » Tue May 5, 2020 11:01 am

Man, Liv has been showcased and is running with the ball. Great chemistry with Charlotte. Flair even busting some new moves. Lots of high impact from Liv for only 2 counts though.

Dare I say she's already in the AJ Lee tier and would've been a bigdeal if she wrestled during that era?
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Post#1217 » by improper » Tue May 5, 2020 12:58 pm

iMoreland wrote:They edited Roman out of Seth's cash in highlight package. He hasn't been mentioned on TV since he pulled out of the WM match. He pissed someone off.


Presumably he's going to be off of TV for a while until this all passes, so they may not be mentioning him simply because they have no idea when they'll be getting him back.
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Post#1218 » by Ruzious » Tue May 5, 2020 1:12 pm

tugs wrote:Man, Liv has been showcased and is running with the ball. Great chemistry with Charlotte. Flair even busting some new moves. Lots of high impact from Liv for only 2 counts though.

Dare I say she's already in the AJ Lee tier and would've been a bigdeal if she wrestled during that era?

AJ Lee was special - it's probably not fair to compare Liv to her, but no doubt it's great to see Liv get this opportunity and step up. Every performance, Liv puts on a good show and appears to be more technically proficient than some of the veterans that are ahead of her.
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Post#1219 » by The_Brecht » Tue May 5, 2020 4:34 pm

Oh dear, this was really bad.

Some thoughts:

What a dumb return angle for AJ. Just stupid, so damn stupid.
The gauntlet was horrendous. The best piece of it, was the sprint between Shelton and Lashley.
What's the point of Zelina Vegas' jobber squad? What if Garza would've won...Theaory vs Garza...what?
What is Humberto Carillo and why would I even care a little about him?
Streets Profits vs Viking Raiders was as predictable as it could be. Probably preshow on sunday.

Only highlights were Liv vs Flair and Murphy vs Drew.
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