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I am totally down for Bobby Lashley winning the WWE Championship. Even if it's a shenanigans win with MVP interference, and even if it's just a short reign. A loss like that wouldn't hurt Drew. And Drew can just win the title back in the rematch.
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Watch Lana run in shouting at Lashley and MVP and inadvertantly distracting Drew, leading to a spear by Bobby for the 1-2-3. Then she re-aligns with Bobby now with MVP.
No, please no.
No, please no.
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Count me out on a Bobby/Drew feud. Both are supremely boring to me, though it would certainly fit what they’ve been doing the last year.
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Raw dropped from last week's number boosted by the Becky Lynch pregnancy announcement, falling eight percent from last week and averaging 1.76 million viewers.
It was the second lowest viewer number in the modern history of the show, trailing only the episode two weeks ago that did 1.68 million viewers.
Raw was third for the night in 18-49 at 0.51, trailing episodes of 90 Day Fiance on TLC that both did 0.52. It was 23rd overall, beating everything but the two 90 Day Fiance shows when it comes to non-news programming.
Regarding the audience itself, in the first-to-third hour decline of 10 percent, which is normal levels and almost all the drop was in the third hour, the show held up well with men, but not women. Women 18-49 fell 21 percent from hour one to hour three while men 18-49 only fell one percent, so the show did a better job than usual in retaining adult males. Teenage boys actually increased as the show went on and teenage girls stayed even.
The show was down 30 percent from the same week last year, and last year had competition from the NBA playoffs. It was down 42 percent from last year in the 18-49 demo.
Hour two was actually the highest hour of the night for any show on cable in 18-49. The first hour was number two and the third hour was number five, but Raw as a whole fell just below the two TLC shows.
The third hour was the second least watched hour in the history of Raw television, beating only the 1.62 million mark of hour three two weeks ago.
The three hours were:
8 p.m. 1.82 million viewers
9 p.m. 1.81 million viewers
10 p.m. 1.64 million viewers
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WWE needs to take a page out of AEW’s book and use wrestlers/staff as fans to make some noise in the arena. I suspect WWE feels that they’re above doing so, especially since AEW has done it. Still, it would add a lot to the shows because as things currently stand, it’s boring and bare — no excitement, no noise, no atmosphere, no energy.
The low viewership for this past Monday is a shame because I felt like it was a pretty good episode. The Zelina Vega stable segments were very entertaining, the Seth Rollins work was good, ended the show on a good note with the Lashley/Drew feud.
The low viewership for this past Monday is a shame because I felt like it was a pretty good episode. The Zelina Vega stable segments were very entertaining, the Seth Rollins work was good, ended the show on a good note with the Lashley/Drew feud.
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Amare_1_Knicks wrote:WWE needs to take a page out of AEW’s book and use wrestlers/staff as fans to make some noise in the arena. I suspect WWE feels that they’re above doing so, especially since AEW done it. Still, it would add a lot to the shows because as things currently stand, it’s boring and bare — no excitement, no noise, no atmosphere, no energy.
The low viewership for this past Monday is a shame because I felt like it was a pretty good episode. The Zelina Vega stable segments were very entertaining, the Seth Rollins work was good, ended the show on a good note with the Lashley/Drew feud.
Yup, and add some lighting for Vince's sake! The virus doesn't mean you can't use lighting, WWE. Working and watching in the dark is depressing. No wonder nobody's watching by the 3rd hour.
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Ruzious wrote:Amare_1_Knicks wrote:WWE needs to take a page out of AEW’s book and use wrestlers/staff as fans to make some noise in the arena. I suspect WWE feels that they’re above doing so, especially since AEW done it. Still, it would add a lot to the shows because as things currently stand, it’s boring and bare — no excitement, no noise, no atmosphere, no energy.
The low viewership for this past Monday is a shame because I felt like it was a pretty good episode. The Zelina Vega stable segments were very entertaining, the Seth Rollins work was good, ended the show on a good note with the Lashley/Drew feud.
Yup, and add some lighting for Vince's sake! The virus doesn't mean you can't use lighting, WWE. Working and watching in the dark is depressing. No wonder nobody's watching by the 3rd hour.
Yeah I always hate the dark lighting... also hate when NBA fans advocate to changing to dark lighting like
the Knicks and Lakers have for their home games feels like I'm watching a Broadway play and it comes
off as dark and depressing.
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Scott Hall wrote:Ruzious wrote:Amare_1_Knicks wrote:WWE needs to take a page out of AEW’s book and use wrestlers/staff as fans to make some noise in the arena. I suspect WWE feels that they’re above doing so, especially since AEW done it. Still, it would add a lot to the shows because as things currently stand, it’s boring and bare — no excitement, no noise, no atmosphere, no energy.
The low viewership for this past Monday is a shame because I felt like it was a pretty good episode. The Zelina Vega stable segments were very entertaining, the Seth Rollins work was good, ended the show on a good note with the Lashley/Drew feud.
Yup, and add some lighting for Vince's sake! The virus doesn't mean you can't use lighting, WWE. Working and watching in the dark is depressing. No wonder nobody's watching by the 3rd hour.
Yeah I always hate the dark lighting... also hate when NBA fans advocate to changing to dark lighting like
the Knicks and Lakers have for their home games feels like I'm watching a Broadway play and it comes
off as dark and depressing.
AEW seems like a carnival in comparison to the dark depressing look of WWE, and in these crazy times, we need a carnival. At least I do. This is a big problem on all the WWE shows. They're sabotaging their own product. Is it stubbornness or stupidity?
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Scott Hall wrote:Yeah I always hate the dark lighting... also hate when NBA fans advocate to changing to dark lighting like
the Knicks and Lakers have for their home games feels like I'm watching a Broadway play and it comes
off as dark and depressing.
I really like how Takeovers would do it where they'd only have the main event with that sort of lighting. Made the matches feel more important without wearing out the welcome of dark lighting.
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improper wrote:Scott Hall wrote:Yeah I always hate the dark lighting... also hate when NBA fans advocate to changing to dark lighting like
the Knicks and Lakers have for their home games feels like I'm watching a Broadway play and it comes
off as dark and depressing.
I really like how Takeovers would do it where they'd only have the main event with that sort of lighting. Made the matches feel more important without wearing out the welcome of dark lighting.
There's definitely a place for it they should do it for casket and buried alive matches totally fits the mood. Since
they don't really do those matches anymore anything that has a dark theme to it. I wouldn't mind guys like Taker,
The Fiend, Aleistar Black etc wrestling in the dark lighting.
Also they can get carried away with the lighting sometimes maybe they need to do it for HDTV purposes but
when I was at RAW last August and sat in the lower level by the ring the lights were blinding and almost gave
me a headache you don't really notice how strong they are when you watch on tv though.
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This man has no clue, that is very bad.
The same thing with cesaro on SD...
The same thing with cesaro on SD...
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I saw a report saying that WWE is going to be using NXT superstars as fans for Raw and Smackdown this week. Let’s see how it goes (if true).
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I am going to be upset if Apollo Crews doesn't win the US title tonight
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My question is, if not her, then who? They sure as hell shouldn't be pushing Charlotte and Bayley + Sasha are on smackdown. Asuka will need a challenge at some point and someone to take the title off of her so unless that is by way of a callup (Rhea Ripley, Io Shirai if she stays, Bianca Belair or Candace LaRae perhaps) then i have no idea who is main event standard, especially on the raw side of things.
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Wwe having the NXT folks ringside for “atmosphere” is 13 minutes in and already obnoxious. They’re going to push their stupid buzz words and chants to the point of nausea and will oversell the bad comedy as actually being funny. Didn’t think these empty arena shows could get worse yet here we are.
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jakecronus8 wrote:Wwe having the NXT folks ringside for “atmosphere” is 13 minutes in and already obnoxious. They’re going to push their stupid buzz words and chants to the point of nausea and will oversell the bad comedy as actually being funny. Didn’t think these empty arena shows could get worse yet here we are.
Interesting. I find it immediately more tolerable and watchable. Fans at ringside making noise has breathed life into the arena and brings some level of atmosphere.
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Hell yeah Apollo
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Should Seth add more guys to his group or keep it at 3? If he does add someone does it have to be a young guy? Because Cesaro would fit in nice.
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iMoreland wrote:Should Seth add more guys to his group or keep it at 3? If he does add someone does it have to be a young guy? Because Cesaro would fit in nice.
Maybe in a few months, they'll add a new person to the group.
Could be a woman, who needs saving.
Natalia?
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