All Elite Wrestling - Discussion

[The_Brecht]

Very good episode, but why did Cody go over?
I really don't get it.

It also doesn't help solving the Cody = Triple H narrative

[WRau1]

Baker v Rosa was fantastic. Definitely didn't see that coming out of those two but it was great.

[tugs]

I know Rosa was the face but I was watching Britt the whole time. She got a Stone Cold, Becky Lynch crimson mask moment. Loved her smile while blood was streaming down her face

[tugs]

I like how after an "Exploding Barbwire Death Match" Omega and Moxley both didn't even have as much as
a scratch on their face also both didn't even have a limp or anything. What was funny was during the match
when Moxley went into the fake barbwire he didn't even have a scratch on his back like nothing happened.
I watched the match back and it's kinda good but also kind of ridiculous at the same time. Still I hope the match
makes it into the new video game but I wonder if we'll ever see it in North America again?

As for the new MJF stable... I like a Stable vs. Stable rivalry but to be honest I'm not really a big fan of any
of these guys except for Jericho. I like FTR as workers and Sammy and Wardlow have some good upside but
for the most part it's just a bunch of guys that don't do anything for me.

Just watched MJF's promo again. Read somewhere that it was eerily similar to the Evolution segment and how the Triple H influence was obvious

And damn, just with Wardlow and immediately Batista description came to mind. MJF is too good to rehash or am I nitpicking?

[WRau1]

Andrade doesn't have a 90 day non-compete, what's the chances we see him on AEW Wednesday? I'd guess that ROH is also an option this weekend.

[Scott Hall]

I like how after an "Exploding Barbwire Death Match" Omega and Moxley both didn't even have as much as
a scratch on their face also both didn't even have a limp or anything. What was funny was during the match
when Moxley went into the fake barbwire he didn't even have a scratch on his back like nothing happened.
I watched the match back and it's kinda good but also kind of ridiculous at the same time. Still I hope the match
makes it into the new video game but I wonder if we'll ever see it in North America again?

As for the new MJF stable... I like a Stable vs. Stable rivalry but to be honest I'm not really a big fan of any
of these guys except for Jericho. I like FTR as workers and Sammy and Wardlow have some good upside but
for the most part it's just a bunch of guys that don't do anything for me.

Just watched MJF's promo again. Read somewhere that it was eerily similar to the Evolution segment and how the Triple H influence was obvious

And damn, just with Wardlow and immediately Batista description came to mind. MJF is too good to rehash or am I nitpicking?

Watching some of the vignettes I was like man the Pinnacle is a complete rip off of Evolution then I quickly remembered
that Evolution was a rip off of the 4 Horsemen. It's cool Tully is apart of it but I wanna see Arn Anderson with them and
not with Cody.

You know these stables they're always gonna be compared to the nWo, DX, Hart Foundation, Evolution, 4 Horsemen etc
and all those factions are predominantly full of all GOATs and legends. When you make stables full of midcard guys
and with guys with potential that they may or may not realize it's always kind of meh.

The Inner Circle to me has just been a flop since the beginning since the group is full of odd pairings and different
characters. Like why would an old white rocker from Winnipeg be hanging out with 2 wannabe gangster Puerto Rican
guys from New York City and another young Spanish guy who's young enough to be his son. And then you have this big
hick from Oklahoma who never says anything and doesn't really contribute to anything to the group. I know he's
supposed to be the muscle of the group but he barely wrestlers or does anything. Also all the famous stables had
the "cool factor" but like with most of AEW you get the nerd convention vibes.

[Ruzious]

I like how after an "Exploding Barbwire Death Match" Omega and Moxley both didn't even have as much as
a scratch on their face also both didn't even have a limp or anything. What was funny was during the match
when Moxley went into the fake barbwire he didn't even have a scratch on his back like nothing happened.
I watched the match back and it's kinda good but also kind of ridiculous at the same time. Still I hope the match
makes it into the new video game but I wonder if we'll ever see it in North America again?

As for the new MJF stable... I like a Stable vs. Stable rivalry but to be honest I'm not really a big fan of any
of these guys except for Jericho. I like FTR as workers and Sammy and Wardlow have some good upside but
for the most part it's just a bunch of guys that don't do anything for me.

Just watched MJF's promo again. Read somewhere that it was eerily similar to the Evolution segment and how the Triple H influence was obvious

And damn, just with Wardlow and immediately Batista description came to mind. MJF is too good to rehash or am I nitpicking?

Watching some of the vignettes I was like man the Pinnacle is a complete rip off of Evolution then I quickly remembered
that Evolution was a rip off of the 4 Horsemen. It's cool Tully is apart of it but I wanna see Arn Anderson with them and
not with Cody.

You know these stables they're always gonna be compared to the nWo, DX, Hart Foundation, Evolution, 4 Horsemen etc
and all those factions are predominantly full of all GOATs and legends. When you make stables full of midcard guys
and with guys with potential that they may or may not realize it's always kind of meh.

The Inner Circle to me has just been a flop since the beginning since the group is full of odd pairings and different
characters. Like why would an old white rocker from Winnipeg be hanging out with 2 wannabe gangster Puerto Rican
guys from New York City and another young Spanish guy who's young enough to be his son. And then you have this big
hick from Oklahoma who never says anything and doesn't really contribute to anything to the group. I know he's
supposed to be the muscle of the group but he barely wrestlers or does anything. Also all the famous stables had
the "cool factor" but like with most of AEW you get the nerd convention vibes.

Really, what it comes down to is They simply don't have the talent to do it much better. They're trying to make the best out of what they have,

[Amare_1_Knicks]

Does anyone else hear what sounds like Isiah Kassidy screaming like a girl in the audience every week ? It’s super annoying/distracting.

[Scott Hall]

Just watched MJF's promo again. Read somewhere that it was eerily similar to the Evolution segment and how the Triple H influence was obvious

And damn, just with Wardlow and immediately Batista description came to mind. MJF is too good to rehash or am I nitpicking?

Watching some of the vignettes I was like man the Pinnacle is a complete rip off of Evolution then I quickly remembered
that Evolution was a rip off of the 4 Horsemen. It's cool Tully is apart of it but I wanna see Arn Anderson with them and
not with Cody.

You know these stables they're always gonna be compared to the nWo, DX, Hart Foundation, Evolution, 4 Horsemen etc
and all those factions are predominantly full of all GOATs and legends. When you make stables full of midcard guys
and with guys with potential that they may or may not realize it's always kind of meh.

The Inner Circle to me has just been a flop since the beginning since the group is full of odd pairings and different
characters. Like why would an old white rocker from Winnipeg be hanging out with 2 wannabe gangster Puerto Rican
guys from New York City and another young Spanish guy who's young enough to be his son. And then you have this big
hick from Oklahoma who never says anything and doesn't really contribute to anything to the group. I know he's
supposed to be the muscle of the group but he barely wrestlers or does anything. Also all the famous stables had
the "cool factor" but like with most of AEW you get the nerd convention vibes.

Really, what it comes down to is They simply don't have the talent to do it much better. They're trying to make the best out of what they have,

A lot of it comes down to bad casting... like why is a beta male like Ricky Starks with 2 Alpha males in Cage and Hobbs
on Team Taz? now imagine if Cage, Hobbs, Wardlow and Archer were in a stable they'd be like AEWs version of The
Hurt Business kind of.

As for the Pinnacle why would 2 Southern Boys that are about business be in a group led by the stereotypical loud
mouth brash New Yorker in MJF? Then you throw in Shawn Spears can you even call this guy a jobber anymore? for
the last 5 years he spends 3 months wrestling and the other 9 months in catering. I don't know they could be ok to solid
but I don't know if the chemistry will be there we'll see.

Then what's going on with the Bullet Club? Are the Young Bucks with Omega, Gallows and Anderson? This is the faction
that I think has the potential to be the best. The only criticism I remember of the Bullet Club in Japan is them being
complete nWo wannabes. On one hand it's cool to pay homage to them and I've always wanted to see a modern version
of that faction back but doing the 2 Sweet and some of the other stuff it was like come on man be original. Are they even
allowed to be called Bullet Club in AEW? I can't remember and to be fair they've cut down on copying the nWo quite a
bit. It would be pretty cool to see AJ Styles leave WWE after his contract and join up with Omega, Gallows and Anderson
though I could really get into that.

[Amare_1_Knicks]

Christian moving and looking as good as he ever did. That’s really a joy to see.

[Amare_1_Knicks]

This episode fell pretty flat. A lottt of stuff I didn’t care for on the show. Particularly the main event though — they’ve had a habit of putting any old match on last, and it’s not a good look. I couldn’t care less for this Miro/Kip vs Best Friends feud, that’s seemingly endless.

Last week was also a little puzzling in terms of the main event. Obviously having your TNT champ defend in the ME is fine, but not against John Silver. If this was Raw or Smackdown, they wouldn’t have Jeff Hardy vs Crash Holly as the go home match/main event. That’s a velocity/Sunday night heat level match. The same could be said here, there’s no good reason for John Silver to be in the main event of Dynamite.

[Dr Positivity]

They still didn't make Miro destroy Sabian and move on yet? Wth are they thinking doing this for 7 months with one of their highest profile signings after Moxley?

[Scott Hall]

Holy $hit!
Holy $hit!
Holy $hit!

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[Amare_1_Knicks]

Jericho with a top-tier promo. That was an absolutely money segment. Sounded great, put himself, the IC, and the pinnacle over (made them sound like legitimate threats) and it was a serious all-around promo. Quality stuff.

Sidebar: I know he’s put on some weight, but Jericho has a pretty compelling look with the beard, the jacket and the stocky build.

[The_Brecht]

Wasn't really impressed with the episode as a whole.

[Amare_1_Knicks]

The Young Bucks stuff confuses me. They ‘turned’ on Mox, but I never felt like they were proper babyfaces to begin with. It feels like not too long ago they were kicking Alex Marvez/TK backstage and throwing up the too sweet with Omega and friends. Quickly oscillating between face and heel does nothing for nobody. Not to mention the turn was telegraphed a mile away.

[Ruzious]

The Young Bucks stuff confuses me. They ‘turned’ on Mox, but I never felt like they were proper babyfaces to begin with. It feels like not too long ago they were kicking Alex Marvez/TK backstage and throwing up the too sweet with Omega and friends. Quickly oscillating between face and heel does nothing for nobody. Not to mention the turn was telegraphed a mile away.

I don't blame them for trying to recreate The Bullet Club, but it's not exactly creative, and I appreciate what Omega's trying to do - but they need to avoid this getting stale, and I'm not sure how they can avoid that.

[Amare_1_Knicks]

Enough already with Hangman and the Dark Order. He’s one of your budding, main event level prospects and he’s been toiling around with a jobber faction for weeks (if not months) now.

Thought the Bullet Club and Calis were having a good promo backstage, but the ‘winking’ at the fans/breaking the fourth wall took me out of it. A little too goofy with all the too-sweeting, and Nick Jackson must’ve said “what a promo!” 5-6 times as Matt was talking. Took me right out of it. Those things work better on an Indy promotion that isn’t on national television. How do you build a company on the backs of guys like these ? If they’re not taking it seriously how/why should the fans ?

[daoneandonly]

They're going to have to break up a few of these stables. I mean that should be a match stipulation in some blood feud, its just too many now.

[AirCanadaMouse]

Jericho most recent promo makes me cringe. I felt like a chump watching that garbage. Hager with the straws... all of it. Santana saved it from a complete cringe fest.


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