safi wrote:Spens1 wrote:what wwe level of bs was that main event
I mean i like Cole in the Bullet Club (though it just feels NWO circa 98 where there was way to many factions and it outlived its welcome) but they sacrificed the main event for it? very unlike ROH. Anyway Almost Mt Rushmore, almost (needs more Steen), if this leads to Cole in NJPW and him going after either the IWGP Jr Title (Kushida vs Cole, two guys who are night and day in terms of character) or better yet, the IWGP World Title (Cole vs Okada, books itself, the two best young wrestlers in the world), both would be quality to see
Also Page in the Bullet Club really, out of the whole roster you got Adam Page, he's basically the same level as a Cody Hall type (he will be very much a young lion), he adds nothing.
surprised Ishii passed out, i thought he would lose but i was thinking fluky win, not this, anyway i think its about time anyway, Fish is pretty good and deserves at least one run. In saying that, the man Dalton Castle needs to get that title soon, he's too damn good not to get a title.
Did like ACH coming out as Luffy, did mark out a bit for that
I had the same reaction as you to the main event, but what I wonder about is how much of it was that this was completely the wrong city to do this? This crowd sucked. They were into Okada, Tanahashi and The Young Bucks but little else. But Colt Cabana was, by far, the most over person on that show. This was a crowd that was there to see Colt Cabana win the ROH Title and either you give that to them or don't but if they were doing this angle it should've been somewhere other than Chicago and/or someone other than Cabana in the main event.
But Adam Cole was the no-brainer choice for this angle and there's so much they can do with him in ROH and in NJPW. I don't like that this seemed to be Jay Lethal's babyface turn. I think the best route is having him stay heel and be the lesser of two evils babyface in a program with Cole and drop the title and then do a slow turn with him and eventually he becomes a full-fledged babyface and beats Cole for the title.
they made the crowd flat i think, nothing overly to mark out over (except the Kushida match which was high octane and great and Okada, Moose v Tana, Elgin)
Not sure if its a Lethal babyface turn, i hope not, i've enjoyed him as a heel/tweener. Cobana is a proper babyface so that makes sense.
Also people expected a title change, i mean Cabana winning in Chicago would have been one of the biggest pops ever potentially.
I guess the foundations are there though for a good program but i agree, wrong place, wrong time for that sort of thing, to be honest i haven't been sold on Delerious's booking for a while now (especially this last year). With Dutch Mantell on the market, maybe get him as a head booker and surround him with a few guys (including Delerious) and it might improve the product