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Post#1601 » by Ruzious » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:32 pm

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tugs wrote:Why is this even a thing? Braun's not getting any love from fans and Shane won't have anything to gain from Braun?

Stupid


So much talent in the company, but hey let's get Shane back...

It's time for Shane to own up to the fact that he's a slightly above average 51 year old who works out a lot. He's not talented, athletic, or interesting anymore.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1602 » by The_Brecht » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:06 pm

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tugs wrote:Why is this even a thing? Braun's not getting any love from fans and Shane won't have anything to gain from Braun?

Stupid


So much talent in the company, but hey let's get Shane back...

It's time for Shane to own up to the fact that he's a slightly above average 51 year old who works out a lot. He's not talented, athletic, or interesting anymore.


He was out of breath while he was giving a promo.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1603 » by improper » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:00 pm

Shane has basically been terrible since he came back a few years ago. But he's a McMahon so he's gonna get shoved down your throat.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1604 » by spykelee » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:25 am

improper wrote:Shane has basically been terrible since he came back a few years ago. But he's a McMahon so he's gonna get shoved down your throat.
Dude, you're obviously a wrestling fan, but you have nothing positive to ever say about anyone or anything wwe. Maybe it's time to just let it go

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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1605 » by improper » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:53 pm

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improper wrote:Shane has basically been terrible since he came back a few years ago. But he's a McMahon so he's gonna get shoved down your throat.
Dude, you're obviously a wrestling fan, but you have nothing positive to ever say about anyone or anything wwe. Maybe it's time to just let it go

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Literally just praised the last PPV as a great show that only had like one bad match.

I'm honest. If the shows suck, I'm going to say so, and sadly WWE shows usually do. That's not on me. It's factual.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1606 » by iMoreland » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:59 am

Looks like they're pushing Ripley to the moon right out the gate, smart
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1607 » by tres » Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:08 am

Another crappy Raw...

The Lashley vs Drew storyline makes absolutely no sense, I mean Lashley scared of Drew? SMH.

Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.

I’m tired of the Fiend vs Randy Orton, I love Orton but I’ve never been a fan of Bray Wyatt or his gimmicks. I mean tonight was just a longer version of what happened at Fast Lane.
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Post#1608 » by WRau1 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:27 am

tres wrote:Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.


It worked for Paige?
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1609 » by improper » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:49 pm

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tres wrote:Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.


It worked for Paige?


Yeah, I honestly hate when they take people who were big stars in NXT and then immediately relegate them to the mid-card on the main roster. If you've got stars, push them. NXT has no problem making stars they sign away from other promotions big right out of the gate. Nakamura's first match wasn't with a nobody. He wrestled former NXT Champion and one of the best in the world, Sami Zayn. Nakamura got pushed into the title picture almost immediately after.
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Post#1610 » by WRau1 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:55 pm

Ripley is a star, she has "it".
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1611 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:55 pm

tres wrote:Another crappy Raw...

The Lashley vs Drew storyline makes absolutely no sense, I mean Lashley scared of Drew? SMH.

Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.

I’m tired of the Fiend vs Randy Orton, I love Orton but I’ve never been a fan of Bray Wyatt or his gimmicks. I mean tonight was just a longer version of what happened at Fast Lane.


The issue with Bray’s gimmicks are they limit wrestling. He never freakin wrestles. It’s all the theatrics with no payoff.

We have already seen a horrendous Wyatt/Orton match at Wrestlemania and I don’t expect any different the second time around.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1612 » by Ruzious » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:58 pm

WRau1 wrote:Ripley is a star, she has "it".

For miles. Amazing that she's done it with this look - considering how she used to look like a super-hot model. It probably would have been so much easier for her to stay in that character. And on top of that, she has tremendous in-ring skills and athletic ability - to go with a larger than life personality.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1613 » by improper » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:35 pm

WRau1 wrote:Ripley is a star, she has "it".


Agreed. She'd be wasted on meaningless mid-card feuds with the likes of Lana or Nia. She's one of the top five women in the company and should be pushed like it. Once she's had a nice run at the top, then you drop her to the mid-card for a bit to buff it up and prevent over-exposing her while the next star gets their shot.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1614 » by tugs » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:27 am

Anyone else get a feeling Rhea was fed lines in her promo? Seemed like she was thinking of what to say next most of the segment

Also, one pet peeve of mine is having NXT stars lose big matches before getting "promoted". For sure you should build the next big NXT star, but you have the call ups lose their final NXT feud and expect people you can dethrone "main roster" talents let alone champs?
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Post#1615 » by The_Brecht » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:07 am

tugs wrote:Anyone else get a feeling Rhea was fed lines in her promo? Seemed like she was thinking of what to say next most of the segment

Also, one pet peeve of mine is having NXT stars lose big matches before getting "promoted". For sure you should build the next big NXT star, but you have the call ups lose their final NXT feud and expect people you can dethrone "main roster" talents let alone champs?


Scripted promos are the worst and most of the stars can't hide the fact they don't like it.
Apparently it had to be a heel promo by Ripley.

Just give the creative freedom to showcase their talents. It's so frustrating to hear a promo and think: "who talks like that?"
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1616 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:14 am

I'm a few weeks behind but the Raw where Miz lost the title to Lashley was perfect with the countdowns and him getting madder and madder followed by the inevitable lumberjack. I had no interest in a real Miz title run so this was the right way to do it and still put over MITB. Not sure if it's possible but Lashley vs Brock at WM would be a marquee match physically for sure and would explain this move perfectly.

I have to give credit to pandemic Sheamus who I thought I hated. The Big E match, Riddle, strong McIntyre match this week, decent Hardy storyline. He almost could have won the title and gone into Wrestlemania with it (Vince plausibly could've chosen to make Sheamus do the Miz deal and then have McIntyre beat him at WM). I didn't see it coming when he came back and was squashing Shorty G or whatever.

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I watched the 2005 Survivor Series a little while ago and I was shocked at how he basically looked the same, that 15 years is no joke as seen by the fresh faced Orton, Batista, or as recently seen Carlito. Top tier black don't crack.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1617 » by improper » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:50 pm

tugs wrote:Anyone else get a feeling Rhea was fed lines in her promo? Seemed like she was thinking of what to say next most of the segment

Also, one pet peeve of mine is having NXT stars lose big matches before getting "promoted". For sure you should build the next big NXT star, but you have the call ups lose their final NXT feud and expect people you can dethrone "main roster" talents let alone champs?


That is pretty much standard operating procedure in wrestling. You put someone over on your way out.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1618 » by Dominator83 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:53 pm

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tres wrote:Another crappy Raw...

The Lashley vs Drew storyline makes absolutely no sense, I mean Lashley scared of Drew? SMH.

Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.

I’m tired of the Fiend vs Randy Orton, I love Orton but I’ve never been a fan of Bray Wyatt or his gimmicks. I mean tonight was just a longer version of what happened at Fast Lane.


The issue with Bray’s gimmicks are they limit wrestling. He never freakin wrestles. It’s all the theatrics with no payoff.

We have already seen a horrendous Wyatt/Orton match at Wrestlemania and I don’t expect any different the second time around.

Well to be fair, i personally loved last years Firefly funhouse match. Of course, you either loved it or hated it, based on if you understood the puns and such. Especially the part when the Vince puppet said, "this is such good ****". That was reference to the "Talk is Jericho" podcast with Jon Moxley, when Moxley was talking about how when he would complain to Vince about how bad the written promos were, Vince would always reply: What do you mean? This is good ****!
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1619 » by The_Brecht » Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:44 am

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tres wrote:Another crappy Raw...

The Lashley vs Drew storyline makes absolutely no sense, I mean Lashley scared of Drew? SMH.

Ripley getting a Raw Women’s Championship match at her very first Raw debut is weak man, she needs to work her way up, I don’t care about the hype.

I’m tired of the Fiend vs Randy Orton, I love Orton but I’ve never been a fan of Bray Wyatt or his gimmicks. I mean tonight was just a longer version of what happened at Fast Lane.


The issue with Bray’s gimmicks are they limit wrestling. He never freakin wrestles. It’s all the theatrics with no payoff.

We have already seen a horrendous Wyatt/Orton match at Wrestlemania and I don’t expect any different the second time around.

Well to be fair, i personally loved last years Firefly funhouse match. Of course, you either loved it or hated it, based on if you understood the puns and such. Especially the part when the Vince puppet said, "this is such good ****". That was reference to the "Talk is Jericho" podcast with Jon Moxley, when Moxley was talking about how when he would complain to Vince about how bad the written promos were, Vince would always reply: What do you mean? This is good ****!


If they go the same route with Orton, they've got potential gold in their hands.
Tbf though, I just want to see Randy Orton RKO Randy Orton.
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Re: WWE Raw Discussion III 

Post#1620 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:23 am

The Fiend has the same problem as Bray did before, the more he wrestles the less over he is, his matches just aren't that good. Maybe they should treat him more like Goldberg and give him squashes like when he faced Finn at Summerslam.
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