Spens1 wrote:Scott Hall wrote:Spens1 wrote:
in the WWF he was rather poor though in ring in general which i think was the point.
Also Ultimate Warrior was no in ring technician and was a massive star.
Poor based on what?
It's not like the 80's was filled with all these great workers. You had guys like Bret, Mr. Perfect, The Rougeaus,
Savage, Steamboat, the Rockers but if you go back and watch that era the movesets by everybody were really basic.
And like my point about him predominantly wrestling big monsters all the time you can't pull off the majority of your
moves against 400 and 500 lbs guys. Even though Hogan was big himself the fact he could body slam Andre was like
this huge giant impressive spot.
Hogan probably used the Leg Drop as a finisher because he could barely lift those big bastards up in the air lol
Imagine guys like AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan or Fin Balor wrestling the Big Show, Braun, Kane, Great Khali, Mark Henry etc
all the time you can't pull off a lot of your move set so you have to adjust your style and adapt.
Guys like Hogan, Austin, Rock and now Cena later on in his career learned to have great matches without being high
flyers doing a bunch of high spots or being great technicians and a lot of their matches are more memorable than
some of the good workers we all like.
You watch a lot of 80's and early 90's stuff now and the matches don't hold up considering the type of stuff we see
now a days but at its time they were great matches that made that era so popular.
As for the Ultimate Warrior he only had 2 good matches in his entire career but it goes to show you how important
"Look" is and how a theme song can really add to your character. Ultimate Warrior is a legend and HOFer and Icon
based off look and better then these plain looking guys on 205 Live or NXT UK or ROH who have zero personality
look like they should be working an office job and just out there and do some fancy moves.
poor based off his own new japan run actually.
That's kind of my point though, you can get around being a poor worker if you work to their strengths. Much like they should have with Wyatt, sure, an average worker at best, but with his presence and charisma (as well as one of the best gimmicks the wwe have created in years) they should have been able to make him a monster heel.
How can you be a poor or average worker and have all sorts of legendary matches and be considered a GOAT?
Cody Rhodes said Hogan vs. The Rock is the greatest match of all time and to not even debate him on it. Pritchard
said he shows Hogan vs. Rock to all his students as a 101 on ring psychology.
Like how the hell is Bray Wyatt even being mentioned in the same sentence as Hulk freaking Hogan lol?
Bray is a tremendous promo and he's the character that Waylon Mercy never got the chance to be. He even
got to be a transition champion with a shallow roster.
Has Bray Wyatt ever had one "great" match? He's constantly huffing and puffing in the ring and none of his WM matches
have been anything people will go back and actively watch back as time goes on.
These Hillbilly looking type guys never have a long shelf life...
The roster is so much more talented then it was 3-5 years ago and there's a bunch of guys in NXT that are really good
that are on the way up in the next year or two plus WWE is active on the Free Agent market trying to block AEW
that unless Wyatt gets himself in phenomenal shape he's gonna have to make his bread in the Tag Division.