WWE SmackDown Discussion II

[Stanford]

How did Vega and lana look last night?

[LLJ]

Not a good showcase for Vega. She barely got any offense in, didn't get to showcase much athleticism, and the size and strength difference between her and Lana is very pronounced. Vega was solid to very good at times in NXT, but wouldn't be surprised if they neuter her into a poor-wrestling heel type even though she is capable of much better than that.

[loserX]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before (probably), but Selina Vega has a movie role coming up.

Playing AJ Lee.

In the story of Paige's life.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6513120/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

[Stanford]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before (probably), but Selina Vega has a movie role coming up.

Playing AJ Lee.

In the story of Paige's life.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6513120/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

Shouts to Ciaran Dowd, playing the role of "Douche."

[bestnamezRtaken]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before (probably), but Selina Vega has a movie role coming up.

Playing AJ Lee.

In the story of Paige's life.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6513120/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

Shouts to Ciaran Dowd, playing the role of "Douche."

Don't forget Jimmy Ruggiero too!

[Spens1]

Well that tag team match did a lot of good. Shame that the New Day won but i'm sure they're taking the loss.

[bestnamezRtaken]

Fantastic match by those two teams, wow.

[Scott Hall]

Another stinker show that I had to pause on my DVR several times to get through out of boredom. Of all the
WWE segments/matches for the audience to chant "boring" they do it during the Iconics promo lol. They seem
to get a lot of hate not heat not sure if people hate their accents or find their material awful.

Lana and Zelina again? Really scrapping the bottom of the barrel of the womens division. Whatever happened to
Mandy Rose? haven't seen her in weeks and she was showing some great progress.

R-Truth in 2018? Really?

Another New Day vs. Bar match part 356

Whatever happened to Shelton Benjamin?

[improper]

I didn't watch, but read the recap. At least they used R-Truth properly to give Nakamura a dominant win. That's exactly how lower card guys like Truth should be utilized at this point.

[Scott Hall]

Yeah it was the proper way to use him and as much as I rag on him for still being on the roster he actually
seemed to have lost some weight and looked great in the ring and was moving fast.

It's just between an R-Truth Match, a Lana vs. Zelina Vega match (again), an Iconics promo it felt like a jobbers
edition of Smackdown and not the way to build towards Summerslam. Plus a New Day vs. Bar main event with
probably the Smackdown tag tittles match being on the preshow of SummerSlam like usual.

It was just one of those episodes where Randy Orton cuts a promo similar to what he's been saying since his heel turn,
the same old Miz heel promo he's been cutting for 10 years (am I the only one still sick of this guy??). AJ Styles promo
was good interesting that him and Joe used to be roommates wish they would explain why Joe would just make it
personal other then the obvious of him going for the tittle.

So Orton vs. Hardy has become really personal and somewhat of an interesting rivalry but I swear these 2 must have
feuded in the past when Hardy had his last run in WWE. And obviously they book Nakumara vs. Hardy at Summerslam
which they've already made me forget these 2 had an issue and didn't even have a match as scheduled at the last PPV.
So if Shinske and Hardy are actually having the match at SummerSlam I wish they would actually build it instead of
Orton vs. Hardy which looks to be afterwards because at this point we're gonna expect an Orton run in during SummerSlam
again.

[improper]

I think they really dropped the ball by not having Miz win Money in the Bank. The obvious story to tell there was Daniel Bryan becoming the number one contender and facing off with Styles at Summerslam. Dream match right there. Bryan wins, but Miz instantly cashes in and steals the title from him. Miz would have gotten some amazing heat for that cash-in too.

I'd have had Bryan lose their rematch at the next PPV when Miz resorts to cheating, and then he manages to dodge any additional rematches and maybe even screw over Bryan in a number one contender match or something. Let Miz spend the next few months defending the belt against other guys and winning (clean in most of them, preferably) to build him up. Then you have Bryan win the Rumble and Miz finally can't hide from him any more.

It's so easy and yet they'll manage to screw this all up.

[bestnamezRtaken]

I think part of the reason they haven't pushed DB is because he hasn't resigned I don't think. Without a guarantee from him, why push him to that level?

The show last night was decent. Certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. People seem to forget that in order to advance a storyline a little bit, you have to watch the same match a few times.

Orton's promo on Jeff was okay, I didn't hear much of it as I was making dinner for the kids but clearly they want to focus on this feud more than Naks/Hardy. It seems Hardy will either win the title at SS to further this feud or something will happen next week for it to be a triple threat for the US title. Either way, whether it's Hardy v Naks or all three, the match should be good at SS regardless if it's 1v1 or 1v1v1.

Becky/Charlotte v IIconics was okay. I feel like they should let the IIconics win every so often because clearly Charlotte and Becky don't need the wins for any sort of momentum. They could of played into their match at SS and had Charlotte or Becky cost them the match and let the IIconics get a good heel win. If you want to have good believable heels....let them win every so often. I wasn't watching directly when this line popped up but pretty sure I heard Becky throw some shade at Sasha and Bayley, that was pretty funny.

I totally missed AJ's promo against Joe, I'll have to find a video on YouTube to check it out, shouldn't be difficult at all.

Vega v Lana was just to help further storyline between Almas/Rusev and Rusev/English. People keep complaining that we just saw this match...well yeah, but there was interference last time and the only reason Vega won was because of English's mistake....so let's give Lana another shot without the possible interference. It's to further the story people, sheesh. Don't be surprised if we see Lana v Vega part III...can't wait to read comments about that next week! Clearly Vince has had enough of Rusev Day and doesn't want him in the main event, so this is why all of this is happening. To create rift between one of the most popular tag teams in Rusev Day. This is punishment for getting himself over without Vince wanting him to.

I missed the Miz/DB promo spot but did see towards the end that DB attacked him. This match at SS could potentially steal the show, depending on whether DB resigns with WWE or not. But either way, it'll be a great match that's been a long time in the making.

People rag on Truth but dude is 46yo and can still move better than any of us that post here. I didn't mind seeing Truth wrestle either. Of course he was going to lose to Shin but also make Shin look good. He can still get the crowd hyped pretty easily, a lot of people were chanting What's Up. Now obviously Truth isn't going to be winning any matches soon but he's a talent that can still hang and put on a decent match.

I caught the end of the Bludgeon Bros demolishing the three local jobbers, but mainly because I was getting spotty internet right around this time and it kept skipping (I use SlingTV to stream) but it's always good watching these two beat the crap out of people. They've booked this team to look amazingly dominate and I love it. Just don't know who should dethrone them. It'd be odd having Sanity do it because it's not often the whole heel v heel aspect really works. As much as I want to see Sanity with the belts...just need to find the right tag team to somehow take the titles off these two.

The main event of the night was pretty damn good. You can always count on these teams to put on an amazing showing and they did not disappoint with this one. People will always find something to complain about, like that we've seen this match so many times but the truth is, the last time we saw these teams go at it was at the SmackDown Live taping in the UK on May 15th of this year and then before that? December 26th, 2016 on an episode of Raw. I'm not counting matches with other people involved in them, I'm talking 2v2. People just like to complain when they don't get what they want despite how good of a match this was. Back in 2016, they wrestled quite a bit on the Raw roster as they were feuding (5 times to be exact in 2016) but come on...it's been 2 years! Hahahaha, find something else to complain about.

All in all, not the best of shows but certainly not the worst like some people make it out to be. While yes, I do agree that the writing could be heaps better and yes, Vince is very out of touch when it comes to booking, and both SmackDown Live and Raw should be so much better given the talent on them...I get that and I agree but until Vince retires or dies...just gotta suck it up buttercup.

[Stanford]

Another New Day vs. Bar match part 356

This guy is out here complaining about a tag team match that has received a 100% approval rating from the internet main eventing a SD!.

[Scott Hall]

Another New Day vs. Bar match part 356

This guy is out here complaining about a tag team match that has received a 100% approval rating from the internet main eventing a SD!.

Was it really that good? I honestly zoned out and had it on in the background by that point. I just didn't
want to give the match a chance because I've seen it a thousand times already and I was just so frustrated
with the product I saw the New Day come out dancing like retards throwing pancakes into the crowd and
I had a I'm completely sick of them moment and this is so corny/cringe to watch.

But if it was really that good I'll go and watch the repeat later this week

[Scott Hall]

I think part of the reason they haven't pushed DB is because he hasn't resigned I don't think. Without a guarantee from him, why push him to that level?

The show last night was decent. Certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. People seem to forget that in order to advance a storyline a little bit, you have to watch the same match a few times.

Orton's promo on Jeff was okay, I didn't hear much of it as I was making dinner for the kids but clearly they want to focus on this feud more than Naks/Hardy. It seems Hardy will either win the title at SS to further this feud or something will happen next week for it to be a triple threat for the US title. Either way, whether it's Hardy v Naks or all three, the match should be good at SS regardless if it's 1v1 or 1v1v1.

Becky/Charlotte v IIconics was okay. I feel like they should let the IIconics win every so often because clearly Charlotte and Becky don't need the wins for any sort of momentum. They could of played into their match at SS and had Charlotte or Becky cost them the match and let the IIconics get a good heel win. If you want to have good believable heels....let them win every so often. I wasn't watching directly when this line popped up but pretty sure I heard Becky throw some shade at Sasha and Bayley, that was pretty funny.

I totally missed AJ's promo against Joe, I'll have to find a video on YouTube to check it out, shouldn't be difficult at all.

Vega v Lana was just to help further storyline between Almas/Rusev and Rusev/English. People keep complaining that we just saw this match...well yeah, but there was interference last time and the only reason Vega won was because of English's mistake....so let's give Lana another shot without the possible interference. It's to further the story people, sheesh. Don't be surprised if we see Lana v Vega part III...can't wait to read comments about that next week! Clearly Vince has had enough of Rusev Day and doesn't want him in the main event, so this is why all of this is happening. To create rift between one of the most popular tag teams in Rusev Day. This is punishment for getting himself over without Vince wanting him to.

I missed the Miz/DB promo spot but did see towards the end that DB attacked him. This match at SS could potentially steal the show, depending on whether DB resigns with WWE or not. But either way, it'll be a great match that's been a long time in the making.

People rag on Truth but dude is 46yo and can still move better than any of us that post here. I didn't mind seeing Truth wrestle either. Of course he was going to lose to Shin but also make Shin look good. He can still get the crowd hyped pretty easily, a lot of people were chanting What's Up. Now obviously Truth isn't going to be winning any matches soon but he's a talent that can still hang and put on a decent match.

I caught the end of the Bludgeon Bros demolishing the three local jobbers, but mainly because I was getting spotty internet right around this time and it kept skipping (I use SlingTV to stream) but it's always good watching these two beat the crap out of people. They've booked this team to look amazingly dominate and I love it. Just don't know who should dethrone them. It'd be odd having Sanity do it because it's not often the whole heel v heel aspect really works. As much as I want to see Sanity with the belts...just need to find the right tag team to somehow take the titles off these two.

The main event of the night was pretty damn good. You can always count on these teams to put on an amazing showing and they did not disappoint with this one. People will always find something to complain about, like that we've seen this match so many times but the truth is, the last time we saw these teams go at it was at the SmackDown Live taping in the UK on May 15th of this year and then before that? December 26th, 2016 on an episode of Raw. I'm not counting matches with other people involved in them, I'm talking 2v2. People just like to complain when they don't get what they want despite how good of a match this was. Back in 2016, they wrestled quite a bit on the Raw roster as they were feuding (5 times to be exact in 2016) but come on...it's been 2 years! Hahahaha, find something else to complain about.

All in all, not the best of shows but certainly not the worst like some people make it out to be. While yes, I do agree that the writing could be heaps better and yes, Vince is very out of touch when it comes to booking, and both SmackDown Live and Raw should be so much better given the talent on them...I get that and I agree but until Vince retires or dies...just gotta suck it up buttercup.

Lana vs. Zelina Vega part 2 (barf) didn't advance the story line though... Both weeks Aiden English accidentally
screwed up costing Lana the win. Nothing "advanced" the story line it was just a copy and paste repeat of last
week which has been the issue with many of RAWs feuds the last few months.

Truth has been a professional athlete for 20 years I would hope he moves better then a bunch of guys posting
on a message board. His entrance is still over and I like him being used as a jobber to put over new talent.
But at this point I'd like to see him and Goldust move to behind the scenes and let the new blood of NXT call ups
or a guy like Shelton Benjamin who's returned get some air time.

I forgot about the jobbers that Harper and Rowan beat adding more jobbers to a jobber full show...

Oh I'm sorry that my complaining of 2 stales Tag-Teams that will end up leading to the pre-show of SummerSlam somehow
bothers you so much. Some people will just gobble up whatever poo poo platter Vince serves them like good little sheep.

I didn't know that 2016 was that long ago lol

The Bar was the ones who ended up breaking New Days undefeated streak and they had a lot of matches against
each other when they were both on RAW.

Rollins and Ambrose haven't wrestled the Bar since 2017 and can have good matches with them doesn't
mean I'm interested in watching them wrestle again for along time.

[Stanford]

Some people will just gobble up whatever poo poo platter Vince serves them like good little sheep.

Ok, the match sucked. Got it.

[Stanford]

Fantastic match by those two teams, wow.

Sheep

[iMoreland]

Bar/New Day was great

New Day's one of the best tag teams ever, crowds still love them and merch still sells. I hope they keep adding to their accolades, have them beat the Dudleys record.

[improper]

Was it really that good?

I didn't watch it, but basically every comment I saw on it was that it was great, and a lot of those comments were from people such as myself that rag on the WWE product a lot. I get the frustration at those two teams going at it yet again, but at least they're two wildly talented teams that have produced a bunch of great matches together (and with other teams as well). I'll take that over many of the other repeat programs that are virtually guaranteed to suck, like Carmella vs. Anybody or Reigns/Lesnar.

I also don't think New Day and the Bar is anywhere near as overplayed as New Day and the Usos, which also resulted in several great matches.

[Scott Hall]

Some people will just gobble up whatever poo poo platter Vince serves them like good little sheep.

Ok, the match sucked. Got it.

I'm not even talking about that match I already said I zoned out as soon as it started and it was on
in the background while I was doing something else. I also said I will check the replay to see what
all the fuss is about.

I'm not sure what this temper-tantrum is all about especially over something that is subjective why
not just debate and discuss normally?