WWE General Discussion II

jakecronus8 · Post #361 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:24 pm

Wwe certainly would want Punk back and it would pay him like they do. I agree though. Almost everyone eventually patches things up with Vince and co. but Punk feels different. He also doesn't need the money and seems to enjoy being a private guy.

MistyMountain20 · Post #362 » by **MistyMountain20** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:45 pm

Stanford wrote:Triple H: responsible for NXT, MYC, CWC, NXT UK; seen as a mentor by every nxt class.
CM Punk: responsible for an embarrassment of an MMA career and repelling every friend he ever had; seen as a joke by Chris Jericho and Cody Rhodes.

Such a garbage take. Punk was one of the first to break the mold of what a wrestler can be in WWE. Triple H was one of the people on and off camera that would disparage and mock people from Punk's background. It seems to be pretty garbage to give someone credit for something they were actively mocking in the first place and that the company should have been doing in the first place. Great that Triple H is no longer the type of person he was completely, but to romanticize who he was and pretend that all recent events are his doing is just revisionist.

The dig from Jericho and Rhodes is weird. Punk was clearly seen as a mentor and helped wrestlers numerous times while in the company. Jericho sounds like a bitter dude and Rhodes is a guy who would probably be less relevant if his father wasn't who he was.

All that and that WWE itself is still a trash company that treats its workers poorly, wraps itself in faux progressivism, partners itself with at best grifters and at worst some of the most detestable people in the world, which Triple H is actively involved in the decisions of these actions. Punk gets all the credit for publicly calling these freaks out unless you just really dig stanning for an objectively trash company.

Post #363 » by **Stanford** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:14 pm

Nothing but platitudes and speculation.

improper · Post #364 » by **improper** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:25 pm

I think we really have to consider that Triple H the performer is just a different type of person than Triple H the boss. When he was still performing regularly, he was a cutthroat politician willing to bury anyone in his path to get to the top and stay there. Now, though, his position is entrenched and he only performs occasionally, so he has pivoted into being a smart boss and trying to build talent for the company's future.

He can be both.

MistyMountain20 · Post #365 » by **MistyMountain20** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:54 pm

Stanford wrote:Nothing but platitudes and speculation.

Where? There has been reporting in the past that Triple H did not see much in a guy like Punk and preferred wrestlers that mirrored him. Weird for you to hate speculation from those reporting that, but think speculation on whether Punk was a leader or not is good. My guess is that folks like Rusev and Big E would disagree with Rhodes because they weren't handed a guaranteed job and probably really valued someone like Punk sticking his neck out for them.

What else is speculation? That WWE is a trash company? No that's firmly planted and the guy you want to promote as being the good guy here has an executive position within the company to cosign his name to all of it. Hmmm, let me see, walking out of a deranged company for abusive work practices or taking blood money from a ruthless autocratic regime? Idk, hard to say which person is better.

Post #366 » by **Stanford** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:55 pm

Punk marks are a funny bunch

MistyMountain20 · Post #367 » by **MistyMountain20** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:09 am

On the other hand, nakedly showing approval for a person that is good with working for people that kill journalists, imprison women activists, and are in the process of committing a genocide against a weaker nation is being astutely aware of reality.

Post #368 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:57 am

lol, let me rephrase: Punk marks are a really funny bunch.

jakecronus8 · Post #369 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:27 am

Solid retorts

Post #370 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:44 am

I have no retort. My sympathies for the murderous Saudi royal family have been exposed for all to see.

Post #371 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:41 am

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Question to everyone: should we as fans be speaking out against moves that impact the neck like this? I feel old guys like Regal can say this over and over again and it will make no difference as long as the crowd is still cheering.

How do you feel about dangerous neck and head spots in today's wrestling?

improper · Post #372 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:34 am

Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter
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Question to everyone: should we as fans be speaking out against moves that impact the neck like this? I feel old guys like Regal can say this over and over again and it will make no difference as long as the crowd is still cheering.

How do you feel about dangerous neck and head spots in today's wrestling?

To me that spot didn't look as dangerous as it appears. It looked like he basically did a handstand and then rolled over it, taking most of the impact on his arm. That's my take on it, but I have no idea if it was actually dangerous. If it was, then I am with Regal. But I tend to think it wasn't as bad as it appeared in this particular case.

Post #373 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:42 am

improper wrote:To me that spot didn't look as dangerous as it appears.

Great point. That's a problem I always have when judging spots like this. Wrestling is sleight of hand and I'm the mark. It's difficult to make an assessment of what is dangerous and what isn't when you're not a wrestler.

That's my take on it, but I have no idea if it was actually dangerous. If it was, then I am with Regal. But I tend to think it wasn't as bad as it appeared in this particular case.

In cases where you know a spot is dangerous - an obvious example would be unprotected chair spots to the head - do you feel obligated to say something about it? I think we're all happy that WWE regulates safety into their wrestling, but when I watch New Japan, I sometimes feel that people are putting their brains and their necks on the line for my amusement. If I had a binary choice, I would decline the offer.

iMoreland · Post #374 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:20 pm

Meltzer confirmed that Becky is out for Survivor Series, thanks Nia.

What do they do now?

My idea: Rousey does an open challenge and its answered by Charlotte, and Charlotte wins. That way they can get Charlotte to Raw, then Becky can win the Royal Rumble. Then do the tiple threat at WrestleMania between the 3 hottest females in the company.

JohnPferdelack · Post #375 » by **JohnPferdelack** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:39 pm

Good idea!
But i think it depends on tonight's smackdown edition how the handle this. Then we can see the direction of this angle...

improper · Post #376 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:41 pm

iMoreland wrote:Meltzer confirmed that Becky is out for Survivor Series, thanks Nia.

What do they do now?

My idea: Rousey does an open challenge and its answered by Charlotte, and Charlotte wins. That way they can get Charlotte to Raw, then Becky can win the Royal Rumble. Then do the tiple threat at WrestleMania between the 3 hottest females in the company.

Could be a good opportunity to call up Baszler as well.

JohnPferdelack · Post #377 » by **JohnPferdelack** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 pm

We also need a SS-Thread for Sunday.

iMoreland · Post #378 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:17 pm

improper wrote:
iMoreland wrote:Meltzer confirmed that Becky is out for Survivor Series, thanks Nia.

What do they do now?

My idea: Rousey does an open challenge and its answered by Charlotte, and Charlotte wins. That way they can get Charlotte to Raw, then Becky can win the Royal Rumble. Then do the tiple threat at WrestleMania between the 3 hottest females in the company.

Could be a good opportunity to call up Baszler as well.

Ronda vs Charlotte is a much bigger match than Ronda vs Baszler, I can see Baszler being called up to SD to take the title from Becky.

improper · Post #379 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:19 pm

iMoreland wrote:Ronda vs Charlotte is a much bigger match than Ronda vs Baszler, I can see Baszler being called up to SD to take the title from Becky.

No doubt Ronda vs. Charlotte is the bigger match (at least right now), but I also think they're saving that one for 'Mania and won't want to spoil it this weekend. This would be a perfect weekend for Baszler to debut, too, as there will be a ton of people that were also at Takeover in the crowd, and I'm assuming Baszler will put on another good match there (every Takeover match is always good or better) and could have a hot crowd the next night as a result.

Post #380 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:42 pm

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I cannot properly put into words how much this man annoys me. This movie looks bad enough but Rock had to double down and book himself in the film to shout his catch phrases and look like the coolest guy in the universe, per usual. It's amazing to me that this goof gets to do his Tony Robbins impression and make his bad movies and the world isn't sick of it yet. Yeah, he's a hunk. So what. Hunks suck sometimes, and the Rock really **** sucks.