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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#381 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 8, 2018 10:57 pm

Scott Hall wrote:I'm not sure what this temper-tantrum is all about


Right, I'm the one who throws a temper tantrum after every episode.

Dude, every post you make is some negative **** about the show you just spent your time watching. It's tiresome and boring. I feel about your posts how you about WWETV.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#382 » by Scott Hall » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:04 pm

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Scott Hall wrote:I'm not sure what this temper-tantrum is all about


Right, I'm the one who throws a temper tantrum after every episode.


Every episode?

I never really complain about the WWE product until the last month or so and during this time span
RAW got it's worst rating in it's 25 year history. There is so much talent on the roster there is no
excuse to be doing poor ratings like this with directionless creative.

I usually like Smackdown better than RAW but last nights episode did it's worst rating in about a month
SummerSlam is the 2nd biggest PPV of the year back in the not so long ago past they would be booking
fire having great TV rivaling only the build during Wrestlemania season.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#383 » by Scott Hall » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:08 pm

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Scott Hall wrote:I'm not sure what this temper-tantrum is all about


Right, I'm the one who throws a temper tantrum after every episode.

Dude, every post you make is some negative **** about the show you just spent your time watching. It's tiresome and boring. I feel about your posts how you about WWETV.


Then why don't you try providing some analysis for once all you ever do is act like a little bitch and act
like a smug prick when you don't agree with somebody and give one sentence replies.

I wonder if it's possible for you to have a regular discussion and actually provide some insight instead
of just throwing shade if somebody doesn't say something you like.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#384 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:13 pm

Scott Hall wrote:Then why don't you try providing some analysis


I have no analysis to provide. I haven't watched either show for over a year. When I watch something, usually NXT, I'll often add something if I have something to add.

I wonder if it's possible for you to have a regular discussion and actually provide some insight instead of just throwing shade if somebody doesn't say something you like.


With you? I seriously doubt it.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#385 » by Scott Hall » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:23 pm

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Scott Hall wrote:Then why don't you try providing some analysis


I have no analysis to provide. I haven't watched either show for over a year. When I watch something, usually NXT, I'll often add something if I have something to add.

I wonder if it's possible for you to have a regular discussion and actually provide some insight instead of just throwing shade if somebody doesn't say something you like.


With you? I seriously doubt it.


So you're busting my balls over a show you DIDN'T watch?? WTF

I'm sorry is Real GM owned by WWE are you one not allowed to criticize it?

The ironic thing is I'm not usually always dawging the WWE product but like a lot of live crowds
and poor ratings you damn right I'm frustrated.

And your posting style has nothing to do with me I've seen how you act with others your gimmick has
always been a cheap shot artist as opposed to debating and giving insightful discussion.

I'm not into pissing wars I don't even care if you disagree with me I just wanna know why but
it's always some snarky one sentence reply jumping off the deep end with your patented low blow.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#386 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:25 pm

Scott Hall wrote:your patented low blow.


That's true. That is kind of my thing.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#387 » by Scott Hall » Wed Aug 8, 2018 11:28 pm

Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:your patented low blow.


That's true. That is kind of my thing.


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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#388 » by improper » Thu Aug 9, 2018 12:01 am

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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#389 » by bestnamezRtaken » Thu Aug 9, 2018 12:34 pm

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bestnamezRtaken wrote:Fantastic match by those two teams, wow.


Sheep


I know right? :lol: Just me trying to enjoy the product and give my thoughts on the show. :)

Scott Hall wrote:
bestnamezRtaken wrote:I think part of the reason they haven't pushed DB is because he hasn't resigned I don't think. Without a guarantee from him, why push him to that level?

The show last night was decent. Certainly not as bad as some make it out to be. People seem to forget that in order to advance a storyline a little bit, you have to watch the same match a few times.

Orton's promo on Jeff was okay, I didn't hear much of it as I was making dinner for the kids but clearly they want to focus on this feud more than Naks/Hardy. It seems Hardy will either win the title at SS to further this feud or something will happen next week for it to be a triple threat for the US title. Either way, whether it's Hardy v Naks or all three, the match should be good at SS regardless if it's 1v1 or 1v1v1.

Becky/Charlotte v IIconics was okay. I feel like they should let the IIconics win every so often because clearly Charlotte and Becky don't need the wins for any sort of momentum. They could of played into their match at SS and had Charlotte or Becky cost them the match and let the IIconics get a good heel win. If you want to have good believable heels....let them win every so often. I wasn't watching directly when this line popped up but pretty sure I heard Becky throw some shade at Sasha and Bayley, that was pretty funny.

I totally missed AJ's promo against Joe, I'll have to find a video on YouTube to check it out, shouldn't be difficult at all.

Vega v Lana was just to help further storyline between Almas/Rusev and Rusev/English. People keep complaining that we just saw this match...well yeah, but there was interference last time and the only reason Vega won was because of English's mistake....so let's give Lana another shot without the possible interference. It's to further the story people, sheesh. Don't be surprised if we see Lana v Vega part III...can't wait to read comments about that next week! Clearly Vince has had enough of Rusev Day and doesn't want him in the main event, so this is why all of this is happening. To create rift between one of the most popular tag teams in Rusev Day. This is punishment for getting himself over without Vince wanting him to.

I missed the Miz/DB promo spot but did see towards the end that DB attacked him. This match at SS could potentially steal the show, depending on whether DB resigns with WWE or not. But either way, it'll be a great match that's been a long time in the making.

People rag on Truth but dude is 46yo and can still move better than any of us that post here. I didn't mind seeing Truth wrestle either. Of course he was going to lose to Shin but also make Shin look good. He can still get the crowd hyped pretty easily, a lot of people were chanting What's Up. Now obviously Truth isn't going to be winning any matches soon but he's a talent that can still hang and put on a decent match.

I caught the end of the Bludgeon Bros demolishing the three local jobbers, but mainly because I was getting spotty internet right around this time and it kept skipping (I use SlingTV to stream) but it's always good watching these two beat the crap out of people. They've booked this team to look amazingly dominate and I love it. Just don't know who should dethrone them. It'd be odd having Sanity do it because it's not often the whole heel v heel aspect really works. As much as I want to see Sanity with the belts...just need to find the right tag team to somehow take the titles off these two.

The main event of the night was pretty damn good. You can always count on these teams to put on an amazing showing and they did not disappoint with this one. People will always find something to complain about, like that we've seen this match so many times but the truth is, the last time we saw these teams go at it was at the SmackDown Live taping in the UK on May 15th of this year and then before that? December 26th, 2016 on an episode of Raw. I'm not counting matches with other people involved in them, I'm talking 2v2. People just like to complain when they don't get what they want despite how good of a match this was. Back in 2016, they wrestled quite a bit on the Raw roster as they were feuding (5 times to be exact in 2016) but come on...it's been 2 years! Hahahaha, find something else to complain about.

All in all, not the best of shows but certainly not the worst like some people make it out to be. While yes, I do agree that the writing could be heaps better and yes, Vince is very out of touch when it comes to booking, and both SmackDown Live and Raw should be so much better given the talent on them...I get that and I agree but until Vince retires or dies...just gotta suck it up buttercup.


Lana vs. Zelina Vega part 2 (barf) didn't advance the story line though... Both weeks Aiden English accidentally
screwed up costing Lana the win. Nothing "advanced" the story line it was just a copy and paste repeat of last
week which has been the issue with many of RAWs feuds the last few months.

Well, it kind of did advance the storyline. That it's inevitable that English is going to get broken up with Rusev and that this is the second week in a row he's messed up and we could potentially get a Rusev v English match at SS, perhaps on the preshow. He tried to help his buddy when he was getting attacked, screwed up again, and now is going to suffer the wrath of Rusev. I mean...whether you think so or not, it did advance this storyline, even if just a little bit.

Truth has been a professional athlete for 20 years I would hope he moves better then a bunch of guys posting
on a message board. His entrance is still over and I like him being used as a jobber to put over new talent.
But at this point I'd like to see him and Goldust move to behind the scenes and let the new blood of NXT call ups
or a guy like Shelton Benjamin who's returned get some air time.

So what you're saying, is that you want the new blood of NXT to get called up to the main roster to be jobbers? To constantly keep losing and fall into mediocrity? I thought you were a fan of NXT, lol.

I forgot about the jobbers that Harper and Rowan beat adding more jobbers to a jobber full show...

Would you rather them squash a legit tag team the way they did these guys? Should Sanity of been the three to take this? I mean, who would you rather have get squashed by the Bludgeon Brothers?

Oh I'm sorry that my complaining of 2 stales Tag-Teams that will end up leading to the pre-show of SummerSlam somehow
bothers you so much. Some people will just gobble up whatever poo poo platter Vince serves them like good little sheep.

I'm sorry you thought that I was attacking you or something. I'm just trying to have a discussion and get something in here that isn't constant crying and complaining. People get tired of crap that isn't constructive at all. That's why I gave my thoughts on the show, to help open up more discussions about the current feuds going on and what we thought could of been done better. Even if this tag team match falls to the preshow, it'll still be enjoyable. I'm just trying to enjoy the current product the best that I can with an open mind. I know the product isn't great, I know the roster is so stacked and should be doing amazing, but it is what it is. That's Vince for you. I missed out on CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, the Shield, etc...and whether wrestling was booked terribly when those guys were still going strong, people still got to see them. I'm just trying to enjoy the likes of Styles, Shin, New Day, Rollins, Balor, etc while I can before they all move on. Even if it is booked like garbage.

I didn't know that 2016 was that long ago lol

Yes, it is now 2018 my dude. :)

The Bar was the ones who ended up breaking New Days undefeated streak and they had a lot of matches against
each other when they were both on RAW.

Yes, I watched that match. Was pretty good. I thought the New Day was going to win and extend a little longer. But it was still good. And I did enjoy their feud on Raw...2 years ago. That's why I enjoyed this match on SmackDown, because I know that those two teams can put up a great match.

Rollins and Ambrose haven't wrestled the Bar since 2017 and can have good matches with them doesn't
mean I'm interested in watching them wrestle again for along time.

So my question to you sir, is how many times can wrestlers wrestle each other, in your opinion, before it becomes boring or one too many times? That just instantly makes you roll your eyes or shrug it off, no matter who's in the match. Because it's well known that both of these teams are excellent workers and if given the proper time (like they were), it's gonna be a great match. What's your max number? I'm curious. :)

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Some people will just gobble up whatever poo poo platter Vince serves them like good little sheep.


Ok, the match sucked. Got it.


I'm not even talking about that match I already said I zoned out as soon as it started and it was on
in the background while I was doing something else. I also said I will check the replay to see what
all the fuss is about.

I'm not sure what this temper-tantrum is all about especially over something that is subjective why
not just debate and discuss normally?

I kind of think you were the one that started the temper-tantrum, at least that's how I took it. But I'm not trying to fuss, just want to keep talking wrasslin with people is all. :D
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#390 » by Stanford » Thu Aug 9, 2018 12:59 pm

There are things to be positive about. I know not everyone watched NXT on a regular basis, but they should. I hope everyone watches the Mae Young Classic as well. These are the kinds of things WWE is doing incredibly well at the moment.
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Re: WWE SmackDown Discussion II 

Post#391 » by improper » Thu Aug 9, 2018 8:34 pm

Stanford wrote:There are things to be positive about. I know not everyone watched NXT on a regular basis, but they should. I hope everyone watches the Mae Young Classic as well. These are the kinds of things WWE is doing incredibly well at the moment.


I watch basically everything Triple H's crew are in charge of because, thus far at least, it has been uniformly good to great. I'm assuming his people are running the MYC, and if so, I'd expect it to be, at worst, enjoyable but short of great.
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Post#392 » by iMoreland » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:33 am

Just got tickets to SmackDown 1000 on October 16th in DC!
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Post#393 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:42 am

If Becky is going to be a heel, she needs new music. And she needs to be less awesome in general.

What a promo! She didn't stop for crowd reaction once! What a pro.
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Post#394 » by improper » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:45 am

Really wish WWE weren't so stubborn and tone deaf with these turns sometimes. The crowd clearly wants Becky to be the face, so why not pivot and turn Charlotte instead?
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Post#395 » by iMoreland » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:00 am

Bludgeons/New Day was awesome.

If Rowan really does have a torn bicep, you wouldn't be able to tell from his efforts in that match. What a pro.
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Post#396 » by Dominator83 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:19 am

improper wrote:Really wish WWE weren't so stubborn and tone deaf with these turns sometimes. The crowd clearly wants Becky to be the face, so why not pivot and turn Charlotte instead?

The way to do that would've been Becky winning the belt and Charlotte jumping her. But I kinda like the angle of Becky just sorta snapping and losing it. It's been quite a while since she's gotten the respect that she deserves
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Post#397 » by improper » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:00 am

Dominater wrote:The way to do that would've been Becky winning the belt and Charlotte jumping her. But I kinda like the angle of Becky just sorta snapping and losing it. It's been quite a while since she's gotten the respect that she deserves


I'm fine with having Becky snap on Charlotte. I'm not fine with WWE seeing the reaction when it happened (the entire crowd cheered Becky on and then chanted "you deserve it" at Charlotte) and deciding to have her cut an anti-crowd promo the next night. They just failed to read the room (or just didn't give a crap) for like the millionth time.
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Post#398 » by bestnamezRtaken » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:01 am

Yeah, the Becky heel turn has been great so far. Stop your crying. She's pulling it off well despite what the crowd is doing. Like Stan the Man said above, she cut a great promo, didn't stop once when the crowd tried getting involved. This is pretty much a breathe of fresh air for the division.

Yes, Charlotte is more of a natural heel and pulls it off well but why not let other people give it a go? So far, Becky is f**king nailing it. She will get new music, Shin got new music when he turned heel.
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Post#399 » by Stanford » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:08 am

improper wrote:Really wish WWE weren't so stubborn and tone deaf with these turns sometimes. The crowd clearly wants Becky to be the face, so why not pivot and turn Charlotte instead?


It would be silly to change major plans after one night. I think they should continue what they're doing and keep an eye on it. Give Becky a chance in this role. There's something to be said for spending a little time as a heel. It can build equity with fans.
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Post#400 » by bestnamezRtaken » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:09 am

Also that main event was great. That title change felt like a legit feel good moment that WWE was hoping for for Roman and Ronda. Like, the Bludgeon Brothers have been dominate, not letting anyone even come close to sniffing those tag titles, so when The New Day got the win, it felt like a much deserved feel good win. Sucks tho that it likely only happened cuz Rowan is now injured. I feel like they need to hold on to the titles even longer.

But, this is also a blessing in disguise. Hopefully this will thrust Harper into a decent singles run, he wants one really badly. He'd make an amazing US or WWE champ. I truly hope they give him a singles run.

Secondly, now that we have baby face champions, all the NXT whiners will get their wet dreams granted as SAnitY will likely be put into a feud with The New Day and The New Day doesn't even need to hold on to the titles for that long, make them somewhat of a transition champs for SAnitY. This will be great.
(I also really like SAnitY and hope they become champs soon so you NXTers, please don't take offense to my wet dream comment it's just for the lols).
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