WWE SmackDown Discussion II

improper · Post #41 » by **improper** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 8:36 pm

Ruby strikes me as good but not elite as a worker. She's better than most of the old guard of WWE women, but not as good as the top-tier women like Asuka and Ember. I'd probably put her on a the same tier as Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, and Becky, which is Tier Two now that Asuka's on the main roster.

Post #42 » by **Stanford** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 8:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Stanford wrote:I'm down with Ruby Riot. Liked her promo this week.

She's servicable and adds some solid depth to the talent on the roster. Is she championship material? Not at this point, imo.

Certainly good enough for a title match in a B ppv though.

LLJ · Post #43 » by **LLJ** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 9:06 pm

improper wrote:Ruby strikes me as good but not elite as a worker. She's better than most of the old guard of WWE women, but not as good as the top-tier women like Asuka and Ember. I'd probably put her on a the same tier as Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, and Becky, which is Tier Two now that Asuka's on the main roster.

I think Sasha is tier one. She's a little sloppy, yes, not as technically sound as Asuka and Ember, but she's also the only woman who has the mobility and speed to keep up with Asuka's pace at full intensity. Their match together on RAW was basically the closest thing to a Japanese style match as we've seen on the main roster. Sasha also has a larger resume than Asuka when it comes to her appearance in most greatest women's matches lists in the WWE. And Sasha also has the one trump card that elevates her matches--she's utterly reckless with her body, which makes her matches have a level of unpredictability. You don't want to see someone get hurt badly, and yet, you're curious. That's Sasha.

Bayley is probably the most technically sound wrestler of the 4 horsewomen, but her style can be a little bland and safe. Everything done properly, but not enough style and flamboyance to her execution. She reminds me a bit of Natalya in that both are textbook in the ring but a little bland.

Charlotte is the best female athlete on the main roster in terms of combination of size, strength and acrobatics.

I think Becky has a lot more than she has shown. She hasn't had the opportunity to show enough in the WWE. But she has such a long, varied background and extensive knowledge of wrestling styles that I can't help but think she's holding a ton back because she's working with lesser talents most of the time. I heard her match with Asuka in Japan on a WWE tour 2 years ago was pretty great. I'd love to see those two lock up again sometime on the main roster.

Ruby is solid. Probably similar to Paige in her prime, though not as good a bumper. I would rank both below the 4 horsewomen.

Spens1 · Post #44 » by **Spens1** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:28 am

did wwe do a payoff, i mean damn that is a payoff to be honest.

Haven't seen that crazy Owens since, well maybe ROH days (this was darker than NXT even, this was full kill steen kill)

that ending segment was great, best in a month (maybe months).

Like damn, what a main event segment, i remember smackdown always used to be like this, where you wanted to see what happened next week, you're damn right i want to see what happens next now.

I'll also go out and say this. the one to take the title off of Nakamura (i'm guessing he wins the title at WM), is Sami Zayn, his promo work has come leaps and bounds and he is easily the #2 guy in the ring already after AJ Styles. You give your top talent the titles, Sami Zayn is top talent.

improper · Post #45 » by **improper** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:58 am

That last powerbomb that Shane ate looked goddamn brutal.

I also love that spot with the chair around the neck into the post. I know it doesn't hurt but it looks fantastic and has a great sound effect.

bestnamezRtaken · Post #46 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 pm

Was a good show last night.

AJ and Rusev was pretty good. They need to for sure do something good with Rusev, he's just awesome. Totally digging this face turn by him, he's still showing he can compete and be dominate (when he's not booked against an even bigger baby face in Shin and AJ). I was excited to see Big E and Jimmy team up, that was cool. Totally expected the BB to demolish them and they did just that. They're your next tag team champs and hopefully they stay champs for awhile.

Predictable that Jinder was going to beat Roode to help further the triple threat match at WM for the US title. Hopefully Roode goes over at Mania and not Jinder buuuuuttttttt, it's gonna be Jinder. A good win for Carmela over Naomi, I honestly think she's going to cash in during Nia/Bliss at Mania to capture the Raw Women's title.

That last segment with KO/Sami/Shane was awesome. I love when KO is in this mind frame. Sami is getting so good as a heel too. The roster is too stacked at the moment with wrestlers that need to be the WWE/Universal champs, hah hah.

Post #47 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:57 pm

bestnamezRtaken wrote:That last segment with KO/Sami/Shane was awesome. I love when KO is in this mind frame. Sami is getting so good as a heel too. The roster is too stacked at the moment with wrestlers that need to be the WWE/Universal champs, hah hah.

As great as KO is in every grouping he's in, and as well as Shane is doing in his role, it's Sami's character that's the most compelling and unique. And it helps that he's a phenominal in-ring performer. This is their best story line in a long time (much better than Jerich/KO - too much comedy/not enough wrestling) - no coincidence that KO and Sami are the main characters.

Post #48 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:03 am

It's actually happening. I can't believe it.

detroitKG · Post #49 » by **detroitKG** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:12 am

this is surreal tbh

Post #50 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:13 am

GOAT promo

Post #51 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:42 am

Everybody, make sure you watch MMC tonight. There have been three very good teams in this tournament and two of them wrestle tonight.

Post #52 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:54 am

Holy ****, a firing segment that actually looked real.

detroitKG · Post #53 » by **detroitKG** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:57 am

this is amazing!

Post #54 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:59 am

I'm in love all over again.

bestnamezRtaken · Post #55 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:10 am

Fantastic show tonight, crowd was great tho mainly due to DB. I can only imagine how good it felt for DB to do what he did tonight with those drop kicks and those kicks...hell even taking that power bomb bump too. You could tell he was having fun again and enjoying himself.

I'm excited because I missed all of his early WWE stuff. I actually haven't seen a match of his to be honest. I got back into wrestling after his time was up. It was AJ debuting at the Rumble that sucked me back into wrestling again. So I'm hyped for this.

iMoreland · Post #56 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:12 am

Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn just got the rocket strap push

SmackDown is great again

Post #57 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:16 am

bestnamezRtaken wrote:I actually haven't seen a match of his to be honest.

Fire up the network, buddy!

Daniel Bryan vs Miz vs John Morrison - Hell in a Cell 2010
Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler - Bragging Rights 2010
Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus - Extreme Rules 2012
Daniel Bryan vs CM Punk - Over the Limit 2012
Team Hell No and Ryback vs The Shield - TLC 2012
Daniel Bryan vs John Cena - Summerslam 2013
Daniel Bryan vs Triple H - Wrestlemania 30
Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton vs Batista - Wrestlemania 30
Daniel Bryan vs Roman Reigns - Fastlane 2015

And if you can find them online somewhere:

Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton - Raw from June 24th 2013
Daniel Bryan vs Gauntlet - Raw from July 22nd 2013
Daniel Bryan vs Seth Rollins - Raw from June 10th 2013

I've bolded what I think are the absolutely essential DB WWE matches. But try to watch them all

. I'm curious what others consider essential viewing.

And watch this:

Watch on YouTube

Spens1 · Post #58 » by **Spens1** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:22 am

so Kevin and Sami are confirmed heels. I dig that

The crowd was hot for Daniel. It was huge. If nothing else, this storyline is delivering (they need to step up the title storyline if anything, that has been lacking severly in comparison to this storyline which is probably the best in the entire wwe right now).

Post #59 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:28 am

Don't forget:

Watch on YouTube

Post #60 » by **Stanford** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:30 am

GUYS DANIEL BRYAN IS BACK