Dark Side of the Ring

WashWiz54 · Post #41 » by **WashWiz54** » Thu May 21, 2020 4:15 pm

Watching the Owen Hart episode while at work was not my brightest moment. So freaking sad, man.

I remember me and my brother loved Owen as kids. I would run around the house with my baseball/basketball trophies pretending they were Slammy Awards just like him. “I am not a nugget” was a phrase commonly used back in the day.

Great to see his family seemingly doing well, but what a freaking shame. Dude was such a good wrestler and after watching this, looks like he was an even better husband and father.

heatwillbeback · Post #42 » by **heatwillbeback** » Thu May 21, 2020 7:31 pm

WWE’s statement a few days ago in response to Martha Hart was just cold, horrible and nauseating. This is a company I think whose product we all love but it’s run by horrible people.

Here is a link for those who have not read it:

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/wwe-attorney-jerry-mcdevitt-responds-to-martha-hart/

Picasso · Post #43 » by **Picasso** » Sun May 24, 2020 9:44 pm

I would like to see them do one on the recent passing of Hanna kimura and the online bullying which led to her tragic suicide. And eventually one of shad gaspard also.

Post #44 » by **Stanford** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:26 pm

Picasso wrote:And eventually one of shad gaspard also.

Shad evidently lived a charmed life, was into a whole bunch of positive **** and was liked by pretty much everyone. What darkness are you looking for Vice to expose?

Scott Hall · Post #45 » by **Scott Hall** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:53 pm

So was Owen and like Shad died a tragic death

Post #46 » by **Stanford** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:18 am

Scott Hall wrote:So was Owen and like Shad died a tragic death

Owen died in a wrestling ring during a pay per view that Vince McMahon continued to air. His family proceeded to blame him for Owen's death.

Both of you have completely missed the point and tone of the show.

whysoserious · Post #47 » by **whysoserious** » Mon May 25, 2020 12:50 pm

The Owen episode was just so hard to watch. It's so tragic they made all those negligent decisions and it cost him his life. It's also sad they couldn't figure out what to do with Owen. Owen wasn't easy to market but right after Bret left, they had something with him. But the character probably wouldn't have been too close to SCSA in many ways.

Picasso · Post #48 » by **Picasso** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:25 pm

Stanford wrote:
Picasso wrote:And eventually one of shad gaspard also.

Shad evidently lived a charmed life, was into a whole bunch of positive **** and was liked by pretty much everyone. What darkness are you looking for Vice to expose?

Oh I know that. I want them to talk about and glorify his life. Not demonize it. Show all the good he has done.

Picasso · Post #49 » by **Picasso** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:29 pm

Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:So was Owen and like Shad died a tragic death

Owen died in a wrestling ring during a pay per view that Vince McMahon continued to air. His family proceeded to blame him for Owen's death.

Both of you have completely missed the point and tone of the show.

The show does have a dark undertone. It's not always about the wrestlers. The owen episode didnt focus on the evil guy he was, they did a good job on him. The touched on the event when he passed.

Shad was a great person by all accounts. Talk about that and tell about his tragic passing. If his family oks it of course.

jakecronus8 · Post #50 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:51 pm

whysoserious wrote:The Owen episode was just so hard to watch. It's so tragic they made all those negligent decisions and it cost him his life. It's also sad they couldn't figure out what to do with Owen. Owen wasn't easy to market but right after Bret left, they had something with him. But the character probably wouldn't have been too close to SCSA in many ways.

DX politicked Owen out of what should’ve been a run to make him a top guy. I think he could’ve been Kurt Angle before Kurt Angle. Wrestling machine that could also flip on a dime and be comedic.

Scott Hall · Post #51 » by **Scott Hall** » Mon May 25, 2020 2:50 pm

Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:So was Owen and like Shad died a tragic death

Owen died in a wrestling ring during a pay per view that Vince McMahon continued to air. His family proceeded to blame him for Owen's death.

Both of you have completely missed the point and tone of the show.

I think it's quite clear that you have... it's about tragedies in wrestling. You can be a good guy and have a tragic
death. What's the issue that Shad was inactive for several years?

Post #52 » by **Stanford** » Mon May 25, 2020 4:11 pm

Scott Hall wrote:It's about tragedies in wrestling.

No, it isn't. What part of Dark Side do you not understand? Shad didn't die from drug and steroid abuse, he didn't strangle his wife and child, he wasn't murdered in mysterious circumstances, he didn't die in a ring. His death had nothing to do with wrestling and he wasn't a controversial or tragic figure. Nothing about Shad Gaspard qualifies for an episode of this show, which is a good thing.

Scott Hall · Post #53 » by **Scott Hall** » Mon May 25, 2020 5:05 pm

Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:It's about tragedies in wrestling.

No, it isn't. What part of Dark Side do you not understand? Shad didn't die from drug and steroid abuse, he didn't strangle his wife and child, he wasn't murdered in mysterious circumstances, he didn't die in a ring. His death had nothing to do with wrestling and he wasn't a controversial or tragic figure. Nothing about Shad Gaspard qualifies for an episode of this show, which is a good thing.

And what does Dino Bravo getting killed by the mafia have to with "wrestling" ? Each tragedy has it's unique circumstances
and branches off it's unique way. So Owen Hart tragically died in a "ring" obviously his story is more interesting because
of his career, the Montreal Screw Job and the aftermath. So tragically drowning while saving your son isn't "Dark" enough?
We need more dirt and scandals to qualify? So the wrestling business contributed to Owens death but it didn't with Shad
yet the wrestling business didn't contribute to Bravo getting killed either but he was murdered so that ups the "darkness"?
There could also be more to the Shad story with the Life guard and the 2 surfers that were there.

Post #54 » by **Stanford** » Mon May 25, 2020 5:12 pm

holy ****, guys

Post #55 » by **bondom34** » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:21 pm

Bumping this, not sure if anyone else has been watching (I haven't seen the Dynamite Kid one yet but might this weekend). Think season 3 has been really interesting so far, some really heartbreaking stories but some fun too. Nick Gage was fantastic.

Dominator83 · Post #56 » by **Dominator83** » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:01 pm

Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:It's about tragedies in wrestling.

No, it isn't. What part of Dark Side do you not understand? Shad didn't die from drug and steroid abuse, he didn't strangle his wife and child, he wasn't murdered in mysterious circumstances, he didn't die in a ring. His death had nothing to do with wrestling and he wasn't a controversial or tragic figure. Nothing about Shad Gaspard qualifies for an episode of this show, which is a good thing.

I kind of agree with this. While Gaspard had a tragic death, I'm not sure you get an hour episode out of it. And Gaspards was also an accident. It's different from Dino Bravo who was murdered as a result of his lifestyle and who he was involved with outside the ring

Scott Hall · Post #57 » by **Scott Hall** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:55 am

Dominater wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:It's about tragedies in wrestling.

No, it isn't. What part of Dark Side do you not understand? Shad didn't die from drug and steroid abuse, he didn't strangle his wife and child, he wasn't murdered in mysterious circumstances, he didn't die in a ring. His death had nothing to do with wrestling and he wasn't a controversial or tragic figure. Nothing about Shad Gaspard qualifies for an episode of this show, which is a good thing.

I kind of agree with this. While Gaspard had a tragic death, I'm not sure you get an hour episode out of it. And Gaspards was also an accident. It's different from Dino Bravo who was murdered as a result of his lifestyle and who he was involved with outside the ring

Yeah I've completely changed my mind on that post from last year it's basically an accidental tragedy and isn't
"dark" enough to warrant an episode although there have been some other episodes that weren't really that dark
either. I would like to see an episode on Lex Luger and Elizabeth down the line.

Dominator83 · Post #58 » by **Dominator83** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:47 am

Scott Hall wrote:
Dominater wrote:
Stanford wrote:
No, it isn't. What part of Dark Side do you not understand? Shad didn't die from drug and steroid abuse, he didn't strangle his wife and child, he wasn't murdered in mysterious circumstances, he didn't die in a ring. His death had nothing to do with wrestling and he wasn't a controversial or tragic figure. Nothing about Shad Gaspard qualifies for an episode of this show, which is a good thing.

I kind of agree with this. While Gaspard had a tragic death, I'm not sure you get an hour episode out of it. And Gaspards was also an accident. It's different from Dino Bravo who was murdered as a result of his lifestyle and who he was involved with outside the ring

Yeah I've completely changed my mind on that post from last year it's basically an accidental tragedy and isn't
"dark" enough to warrant an episode although there have been some other episodes that weren't really that dark
either. I would like to see an episode on Lex Luger and Elizabeth down the line.

Like I'm not against mentioning Gaspards death on there at all, but it would need to be an episode highlighting young wrestler deaths in general. Which of course there are so many that die young they can easily have a 2 week episode about those.

Scott Hall · Post #59 » by **Scott Hall** » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:42 pm

Dominater wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
Dominater wrote:I kind of agree with this. While Gaspard had a tragic death, I'm not sure you get an hour episode out of it. And Gaspards was also an accident. It's different from Dino Bravo who was murdered as a result of his lifestyle and who he was involved with outside the ring

Yeah I've completely changed my mind on that post from last year it's basically an accidental tragedy and isn't
"dark" enough to warrant an episode although there have been some other episodes that weren't really that dark
either. I would like to see an episode on Lex Luger and Elizabeth down the line.

Like I'm not against mentioning Gaspards death on there at all, but it would need to be an episode highlighting young wrestler deaths in general. Which of course there are so many that die young they can easily have a 2 week episode about those.

What's considered "dark" does seem to be subjective though. Like was the episode about WCW putting on a show in
North Korea really that "dark" it was pretty interesting but I thought the stories would be better it's about what I would
expect going to a communist country like that. Next season they're doing an episode on the "Plane ride for hell" what
is so "dark" about them getting drunk on a plane and play fighting with each other? sure it's "crazy" and interesting
especially the boss play fighting on the ground with one of his top talents but "dark"? I don't know I guess we'll see.

Yeah there's been so many tragedies you could make a spinoff series from this and if you just stick to darkness this
show could easily last another 10 seasons with everything that's gone on in the wrestling world. Hell is it to early to
do an episode on the Velveteen Dream?

prolific passer · Post #60 » by **prolific passer** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:11 pm

The plane ride from hell episode seems to have turned everything on its head.