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Post#501 » by bestnamezRtaken » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:09 pm

iMoreland wrote:How is that good? Why does she or her opponent(s) deserve that?


Was never a fan of her, thought she was thrust into the top when she really didn't deserve it. She's still very green and if she did this just to fill out a dream of hers to be a wrestler, makes me believe she didn't deserve the push at all. Her matches were okay for the most part, with a few good ones but I dunno...I was never sold on her in the ring. So her leaving will be good because it'll open up more opportunities for the women that actually care and deserve the push to the top. She did not. At all.
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Post#502 » by Stanford » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:11 pm

Who the **** cares about TV ratings.
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Post#503 » by iMoreland » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:08 pm

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iMoreland wrote:How is that good? Why does she or her opponent(s) deserve that?


Was never a fan of her, thought she was thrust into the top when she really didn't deserve it. She's still very green and if she did this just to fill out a dream of hers to be a wrestler, makes me believe she didn't deserve the push at all. Her matches were okay for the most part, with a few good ones but I dunno...I was never sold on her in the ring. So her leaving will be good because it'll open up more opportunities for the women that actually care and deserve the push to the top. She did not. At all.

Ronda chose to come to WWE so she obviously cares. And I'd argue she's had a more seamless transition from another sport to WWE than anyone ever has, including Kurt Angle. She's not green at all. She doesn't do part time and she's putting on good match after good match, people need to enjoy a good thing while it's here.

Ronda brought a streamline of sports media and new fan base to the company. For the sake of the WWE spotlight, I hope she doesn’t leave. She had a fantastic rookie year and did great things for the women’s division.
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#504 » by iMoreland » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:12 pm

Per TMZ

Ronda Rousey is NOT parting ways with WWE -- despite reports she's on her way out, TMZ Sports has learned.

A report by wrestling journalist Dave Meltzer sparked hysteria -- with some jumping to the conclusion she's ending her pro wrestling career after 1 year with Vince McMahon's company.

And why? Meltzer's report says there's a "very good chance" she could wrap up with WWE after Wrestlemania in April so she can focus on starting a family with husband, Travis Browne.

But, what people are skipping over ... Meltzer also reports she will "probably remain affiliated with the company" after Wrestlemania.

ProWrestlingSheet added more clarity ... describing the situation as a planned "break" -- but it's not set in stone.

Multiple sources connected to Ronda tell TMZ Sports she's "super happy" in her new career and isn't ready to pull the plug just yet.

What we also know ... Ronda is serious about starting a family soon -- and she's been vocal about it for months. In fact, back in May 2018 she said the plan was to get pregnant "very soon." So, babies have been on her brain.

Also, a WWE spokesperson tells us, "Ronda Rousey is under contract with WWE until April 10, 2021."
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Post#505 » by bestnamezRtaken » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:17 pm

Her gimmick was pretty awful. It wasn't believable. I couldn't buy the super happy peachy badass chick that suddenly turns crazy? Nah, didn't work for me. I know this has nothing to do with her wrestling but her theme music doesn't fit, it makes me hate Bad Reputation by Joan Jett. But she isn't good on the mic at all. She was booked wrong. If she came in with the attitude of "baddest woman on the planet" like they say 17 times per episode of Raw and PPV and made her a badass instead of "oh I don't want to step on anyone's toes, I respect you I'm just happy to be here blah blah blah", then it would have been more believable. Her constant waving and smiling just didn't work for me. The women's division would be just fine without her in my opinion.
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Post#506 » by improper » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:25 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Meltzer reporting that Rousey may be done after Mania.


So much for all her talk of being a full-timer and committing herself to wrestling lol. If true, she barely even lasted a year, and wasn't even full time for part of it.

The plus side is this means Becky might actually go over at 'Mania, which is what should happen.
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#507 » by Stanford » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:34 pm

When was she not full time?
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Post#508 » by improper » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:50 pm

Stanford wrote:When was she not full time?


Didn't she take a month off at some point to film a movie?

Or was that before her first match at 'Mania? I thought it was after, but it was a year ago.
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Post#509 » by LLJ » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:04 pm

She was only full time from around SummerSlam and on. She had an inconsistent schedule from April to July last year.

Basically, since she became champion she was full time. You could not argue she was an absentee champion at least.

I think Ronda has had her ups and downs but she "feels" legit (because she is) and her reign has been booked decently if not eventfully. I never once felt she has buried any of her opponents. Some of that may be her own limitations promo wise but the upside is I never feel like her opponents were worse off after facing her. She lets herself get beat down and cry in many segments and sometimes look bad despite being undefeated. Contrast that to Alexa's reign, or even AJ Styles, and I feel like some of the people who lost to them had great shine going in, but never recovered after losing to them.
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Post#510 » by improper » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:11 pm

I thought they should have had her bury Nia and Alexa a lot more, to be honest. :lol:

Because seriously...neither of those women is even remotely on Ronda's level as a worker or as far as feeling legitimate goes and they really shouldn't have been treated like they were. Should have just had Ronda murder both of them.
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Post#511 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:52 pm

You can't be upset with Ronda. She's not pulling a lesnar and holding up vince for money. She wants to start a family. In the time she did wrestling she fully committed to it and was quite good. Will go down as a big time "what if"
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Post#512 » by improper » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:53 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:You can't be upset with Ronda. She's not pulling a lesnar and holding up vince for money. She wants to start a family. In the time she did wrestling she fully committed to it and was quite good. Will go down as a big time "what if"


I'm not upset with her. Just find it funny how she talked about fully committing to it literally a year ago and she's already done.
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Post#513 » by LLJ » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:54 pm

Ronda will still probably appear part time for the odd match or two afterwards anyway, if she does indeed take a maternity leave.
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Post#514 » by bestnamezRtaken » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:15 pm

I think having her as champ hurt the value of the title. I never felt like she rightfully earned it or deserved it. She had pointless feuds with Nia and Alexa when the title could have been on someone like Sasha, Bayley, or Ember. They missed a huge opportunity of an amazing feud between Sasha and Bayley but that was scrapped because Ronda was champ. The title would of been better off on one of those two with that feud going in. The SmackDown title had amazing deserving champs in Becky, Charlotte, and Asuka (let's pretend Carmella wasn't champ lol) and that title felt like one of the most important titles in the entire company. The raw title? Not so much.
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Post#515 » by improper » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:39 pm

bestnamezRtaken wrote:I think having her as champ hurt the value of the title. I never felt like she rightfully earned it or deserved it. She had pointless feuds with Nia and Alexa when the title could have been on someone like Sasha, Bayley, or Ember. They missed a huge opportunity of an amazing feud between Sasha and Bayley but that was scrapped because Ronda was champ. The title would of been better off on one of those two with that feud going in. The SmackDown title had amazing deserving champs in Becky, Charlotte, and Asuka (let's pretend Carmella wasn't champ lol) and that title felt like one of the most important titles in the entire company. The raw title? Not so much.


I think they hurt her title run a bit by not really giving her any dominant victories. It seems like every match, they had her play the "face in peril" role where she was getting her ass kicked the whole time before rallying for a few minutes and winning. Which can be fine, and Ronda did a really good job of selling to her credit. The problem was that I think this is just the complete wrong way to book the "baddest woman on the planet." They really missed the boat by not giving her more those aforementioned dominating victories of the type Asuka often got in NXT. It's hard to buy her as a badass when she spends ten minutes getting beat up by Alexa Bliss, who is like five feet tall and weighs less than my dog.
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Post#516 » by Spens1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:58 am

Stanford wrote:Who the **** cares about TV ratings.


Its still the main metric and its where they make their bread and butter (youtube and the network only contribute so much), they better pay attention to it also, because of knowing FOX, they'll end up on some random Fox Sports channel real quick if they are drawing sub 3 mill.
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Post#517 » by Spens1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:00 am

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jakecronus8 wrote:You can't be upset with Ronda. She's not pulling a lesnar and holding up vince for money. She wants to start a family. In the time she did wrestling she fully committed to it and was quite good. Will go down as a big time "what if"


I'm not upset with her. Just find it funny how she talked about fully committing to it literally a year ago and she's already done.


There was a video on her youtube channel i believe talking about how she wasn't their to take care of the ranch and the animals and it did affect her not being at home so I suspect that's what changed this.

This isn't the UFC where you go into training camp, fight and go home until you have to go out and train or on training camp (some train at home or close to home anyway). WWE is a completely different beast where you are constantly away from home. Especially since she's away from her Husband as well.
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Post#518 » by Spens1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:05 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Gotta bad feeling that the Mania crowd may give Rousey the Goldberg/Lesnar treatment.


Depends really, If its Lynch vs Rousey, then good chance Rousey is the heel in that feud anyway (then again, Vince is an idiot so he would try to book her).
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Post#519 » by Scott Hall » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:51 pm

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improper wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:You can't be upset with Ronda. She's not pulling a lesnar and holding up vince for money. She wants to start a family. In the time she did wrestling she fully committed to it and was quite good. Will go down as a big time "what if"


I'm not upset with her. Just find it funny how she talked about fully committing to it literally a year ago and she's already done.


There was a video on her youtube channel i believe talking about how she wasn't their to take care of the ranch and the animals and it did affect her not being at home so I suspect that's what changed this.

This isn't the UFC where you go into training camp, fight and go home until you have to go out and train or on training camp (some train at home or close to home anyway). WWE is a completely different beast where you are constantly away from home. Especially since she's away from her Husband as well.


She was travelling with her husband for the first several months of her tenure not sure if she still does or not. I was at
RAW back in September and when we we're walking back she and her husband were pulling out of the parking lot and
got stuck at the first intersection at a red light and a bunch of fans rushed their truck for pics and autographs.
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Post#520 » by LLJ » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:43 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Gotta bad feeling that the Mania crowd may give Rousey the Goldberg/Lesnar treatment.


Depends really, If its Lynch vs Rousey, then good chance Rousey is the heel in that feud anyway (then again, Vince is an idiot so he would try to book her).



They'll throw Charlotte into the match to absorb some of the boos. That's pretty much Charlotte's role these days anyway. There's also a chance crowds will just be sick of all 3 women by Mania, judging by how much this match has been talked about and hyped for the past 6 months.

I'd laugh if Charlotte ended up winning the match though. I mean, at some point people have to realize Charlotte is going to get her 8th title win. She's not going to keep losing PPVs like she has been for the past 8-9 months.

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