WWE SmackDown Discussion II

bestnamezRtaken · Post #561 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:57 pm

So at first, I was confused like...what is going on?? But before they even came out, I instantly knew they were dressing up as the Brood. I loved it.

LLJ · Post #562 » by **LLJ** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:25 pm

Bryan tapping lol. **** that sh*t.

From a purely wrestling standpoint, there was nothing wrong with the match. On any other promotion, I wouldn't question it. It was great.

But if you know how Vince's mind works, it definitely looks like how he would punish someone for insubordination. Especially this being on free TV where top babyfaces rarely tap out on.

So now they've devalued Joe, Nakamura, Rusev, Bryan. That's like most of your top stars on Smackdown. They basically have nobody left except Orton and Miz now for AJ to run over or drop the title to.

My god. :lol:

Post #563 » by **Stanford** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:27 pm

There's no reason why Daniel Bryan should be immune to tapping out.

LLJ · Post #564 » by **LLJ** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:32 pm

Stanford wrote:There's no reason why Daniel Bryan should be immune to tapping out.

From a purely wrestling standpoint, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with tapping out at all. On any other promotion than the WWE, it's a normal occurrence.

Not according to Vince though. We know how he books by now and how he thinks. Aside from the women, all of whom tap on a regular basis (even Charlotte does it), Vince rarely ever makes his top male babyfaces tap out. Has Roman ever tapped out? AJ?

If Bryan had went to Crown Jewel, I'd expect Bryan to have lost to the Styles Clash and get pinned, or have Miz cost him the match.

Reasonably sure Bryan losing by submission was a subtle message to the locker room for refusing to work Crown Jewel.

improper · Post #565 » by **improper** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:34 pm

LLJ wrote:WWE, it's a normal occurrence.

Not according to Vince though. We know how he books by now and how he thinks. Aside from the women, all of whom tap on a regular basis (even Charlotte does it), Vince rarely ever makes his top male babyfaces tap out. Has Roman ever tapped out? AJ?

If Bryan had went to Crown Jewel, I'd expect Bryan to have lost to the Styles Clash and get pinned, or have Miz cost him the match.

Reasonably sure Bryan losing by submission was a subtle message to the locker room for refusing to work Crown Jewel.

Yeah, it's definitely very Vince to not have top faces tap out. If they do, it's almost always at a major PPV. Has Cena ever tapped on Raw or Smackdown? I mean, he's only tapped a handful of times at all in around fifteen years, right?

But whatever...I don't think Bryan losing to the champ, even via tap out, is a huge deal. If Bryan wins the title, I have to think he'd be taking it off of Miz.

Post #566 » by **Stanford** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:50 pm

LLJ wrote:
Stanford wrote:There's no reason why Daniel Bryan should be immune to tapping out.

From a purely wrestling standpoint, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with tapping out at all. On any other promotion than the WWE, it's a normal occurrence.

Not according to Vince though. We know how he books by now and how he thinks. Aside from the women, all of whom tap on a regular basis (even Charlotte does it), Vince rarely ever makes his top male babyfaces tap out. Has Roman ever tapped out? AJ?

If Bryan had went to Crown Jewel, I'd expect Bryan to have lost to the Styles Clash and get pinned, or have Miz cost him the match.

Reasonably sure Bryan losing by submission was a subtle message to the locker room for refusing to work Crown Jewel.

I get what you're saying. Bryan is the kind of wrestler that would tap out though. He's not really booked like Cena, Hogan or Roman, and that makes sense to me. If Bret Hart was on top during a time when tap outs were common (or used at all - I don't think tap outs existed before Shamrock), I'm certain he would have done it. Bryan is more like Bret than he is Roman.

I'm surprised AJ has never tapped out in WWE. I think that illustrates the lack of submission finishers rather than his booking style though. Who else has a submission move that routinely finishes matches?

improper wrote:But whatever...I don't think Bryan losing to the champ, even via tap out, is a huge deal. If Bryan wins the title, I have to think he'd be taking it off of Miz.

I agree. This could have been a finish they considered for CJ anyway.

Post #567 » by **loserX** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:52 pm

Stanford wrote:I'm surprised AJ has never tapped out in WWE. I think that illustrates the lack of submission finishers rather than his booking style though. Who else has a submission move that routinely finishes matches?

RUSEV MATCHKA

Post #568 » by **Stanford** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:53 pm

loserX wrote:
Stanford wrote:I'm surprised AJ has never tapped out in WWE. I think that illustrates the lack of submission finishers rather than his booking style though. Who else has a submission move that routinely finishes matches?

RUSEV MATCHKA

Has Rusev ever won a match in the WWE though? I can't remember one.

bestnamezRtaken · Post #569 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:33 pm

Stanford wrote:
loserX wrote:
Stanford wrote:I'm surprised AJ has never tapped out in WWE. I think that illustrates the lack of submission finishers rather than his booking style though. Who else has a submission move that routinely finishes matches?

RUSEV MATCHKA

Has Rusev ever won a match in the WWE though? I can't remember one.

Who dat?

improper · Post #570 » by **improper** » Thu Nov 1, 2018 2:19 am

Stanford wrote:Has Rusev ever won a match in the WWE though? I can't remember one.

Not since Cena neutered him.

iMoreland · Post #571 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 6, 2018 8:10 pm

Spoiler:

bestnamezRtaken · Post #572 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Nov 7, 2018 1:33 pm

It was cool seeing Nikki Cross debut, especially against Becky too. And to come out with sanity was great. She's awesome and holy damn...freaking cute as hell. <3

Post #573 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Nov 7, 2018 4:00 pm

bestnamezRtaken wrote:It was cool seeing Nikki Cross debut, especially against Becky too. And to come out with sanity was great. She's awesome and holy damn...freaking cute as hell. <3

Definitely not a diva. She's as fun to watch as any of the women, because she gives everything and she's actually very skilled in the ring - despite her wild style. She may not end up winning any championships, but she's a major asset, imo.

bestnamezRtaken · Post #574 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Wed Nov 7, 2018 4:27 pm

Yeah, I wasn't implying that she was a diva of any sorts. Just that she is very adorable. But I watched a few of her matches in NXT and yeah, she gonna be awesome to watch...until Vince.

Post #575 » by **Stanford** » Thu Nov 8, 2018 11:57 pm

Yeah, Nikki is going to be a huge crowd favorite. She's won most of us over on the forum already.

improper · Post #576 » by **improper** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:00 am

Stanford wrote:Yeah, Nikki is going to be a huge crowd favorite. She's won most of us over on the forum already.

Well, to be fair, most of us are NXT fans and she was great in NXT. The main roster tends to find ways to ruin everyone, sadly.

Post #577 » by **Stanford** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:06 am

improper wrote:
Stanford wrote:Yeah, Nikki is going to be a huge crowd favorite. She's won most of us over on the forum already.

Well, to be fair, most of us are NXT fans and she was great in NXT. The main roster tends to find ways to ruin everyone, sadly.

What I mean is, I have a feeling she'll be the exception.

improper · Post #578 » by **improper** » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:07 am

Stanford wrote:What I mean is, I have a feeling she'll be the exception.

I hope so. I just don't have a lot of high hopes for anyone once they get the old call up. Still root for the ones I like to be exceptions, though.

Post #579 » by **spykelee** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:16 pm

Rumor that Becky suffered a broken nose and concussion and Has been pulled from survivor series. That's a tough break if true.

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JohnPferdelack · Post #580 » by **JohnPferdelack** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:21 pm

Yes, i read that too.
Could be interesting for tonight's Smackdown. If it's true, WWE have to deal and to find a replacement for Becky...