WWE General Discussion II

Scott Hall · Post #81 » by **Scott Hall** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 7:46 pm

I honestly don't notice anyone in the womens division getting bigger pops then the others they all seem about
equal to me. Even Ronda Rouseys reactions don't seem any different to the stars of the womens division.

Bliss is right up there on the mic but I'm finding her a bit repetitive and still remember that train wreck segment
of "Bayley" this is your life. I probably would have had Alexa ahead of Carmella on the mic 6 months to a year ago
but I've been extremely entertained with her promos the last few months she really does her character well.

I'm not sure who's better looking that's a tough one to decide same with voice. It would be interesting to see them
feud one day since they're so similar.

LLJ · Post #82 » by **LLJ** » Sun Jul 1, 2018 10:49 pm

Scott Hall wrote:I honestly don't notice anyone in the womens division getting bigger pops then the others they all seem about
equal to me. Even Ronda Rouseys reactions don't seem any different to the stars of the womens division.

Bliss is right up there on the mic but I'm finding her a bit repetitive and still remember that train wreck segment
of "Bayley" this is your life. I probably would have had Alexa ahead of Carmella on the mic 6 months to a year ago
but I've been extremely entertained with her promos the last few months she really does her character well.

I'm not sure who's better looking that's a tough one to decide same with voice. It would be interesting to see them
feud one day since they're so similar.

I feel like the Bayley segment was creative's fault more than Alexa's.

And I'm not even a fan of Alexa. But even I can admit she's the best at her strengths.

As far as Ronda is concerned, isn't she the most over woman in the WWE? I don't know. I don't really watch her RAW segments. She seems to get cheered a lot in PPVs and the shows I do see her in though.

iMoreland · Post #83 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 11:03 am

Ronda is one of the most over people in the company

Scott Hall · Post #84 » by **Scott Hall** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 9:23 am

LLJ wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:I honestly don't notice anyone in the womens division getting bigger pops then the others they all seem about
equal to me. Even Ronda Rouseys reactions don't seem any different to the stars of the womens division.

Bliss is right up there on the mic but I'm finding her a bit repetitive and still remember that train wreck segment
of "Bayley" this is your life. I probably would have had Alexa ahead of Carmella on the mic 6 months to a year ago
but I've been extremely entertained with her promos the last few months she really does her character well.

I'm not sure who's better looking that's a tough one to decide same with voice. It would be interesting to see them
feud one day since they're so similar.

I feel like the Bayley segment was creative's fault more than Alexa's.

And I'm not even a fan of Alexa. But even I can admit she's the best at her strengths.

As far as Ronda is concerned, isn't she the most over woman in the WWE? I don't know. I don't really watch her RAW segments. She seems to get cheered a lot in PPVs and the shows I do see her in though.

The Bayley segment was definitely creatives fault but Alexa couldn't salvage it at all and improvise and
went down with the Titanic. Alexas good and all and I like that they added Mickie James to her to freshen
up her shtick a bit just like they always add people to the Miz to keep him fresh despite being the same character
doing the same promo's for 10 years.

Rousey probably is but I don't notice her pops "considerably" louder then Asuka or Becky etc

In the Golden Era Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Rockers and Road Warriors pops were on a different level then
the rest of the roster.

In the Attitude Era Austin, Rock, HHH and Foley were on another level then the rest of the roster

Ruthless Aggression Era RVD, HBK, Eddie etc stood out

This generation I really don't notice anyone getting consistently bigger pops then everyone else outside of Styles and Bryan.
Reigns and Cena just get noise for being controversial. Rusev is getting hot, Orton gets consistent good pops but it's
hard to get super over with this creative.

improper · Post #85 » by **improper** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:23 pm

I feel like Orton gets a pop when he hits an RKO OUTTA NOWHERE but other than that people are sick of him.

Scott Hall · Post #86 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 12:36 am

improper wrote:I feel like Orton gets a pop when he hits an RKO OUTTA NOWHERE but other than that people are sick of him.

I know I am especially for years now he's so bland and boring and it still surprises me he gets good
pops in a lot of towns in the year 2018

Post #87 » by **spykelee** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 2:33 pm

Scott Hall wrote:
spykelee wrote:I agree on Charlotte. I think she's well on her way to best of all time. I don't think I've ever seen anyone with so little experience be so natural, so fast. I find everything she does is so smooth and polished and given her relative inexperience it's really impressive. And as mentioned, probably the best mix of athleticism and power on the roster. If anything I think she's held to a higher standard because of her last name and she has broken through that glass floor in no time. I think everyone else is very good (mostly) but there's only one queen.

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So you don't think Charlotte has reached GOAT status yet? Who do you have higher then her Trish? Lita?
somebody from Japan or Mexico?

And what does she need to do from here on out to pass who's 1st on your list?

No I do think Charlotte is number one on my list. I don't know all the wonen wrestlers around the world like some do but for who I know I definitely have Charlotte at one.

I marvel at how quickly she picked up wrestling and how natural she is and really has been, at least since her call up to the main roster. She's a tremendous tactician, a great blend of speed and power and I think she has great ring psychology, mannerisms, is universally respected by men and women and has earned her spot as the queen.

By and large, I agree with everything you said. I like Becky but I'm not sure how anyone could compare her to Charlotte or even on her own merit... Her outfits and entrance are bland, she's a good wrestler, one of the best in the company probably but that only goes so far. To this point. I haven't seen a whole lot she brings to the table. I agree on Alexa and Carmella being similar too. I do think Lexi is better than Carmella though. Mela is a joke really. Alexa sorta has that edge, ultimate opportunist type character and she plays the biotch well. It suits her

But To my eyes Charlotte is the easy number one women in WWE. She isn't perfect though. Her promos could certainly be better.. Really anything that isn't curtain to curtain could be improved but I still think she's heads and shoulders above anyone else on the roster

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iMoreland · Post #88 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 10:31 pm

I'm starting to think this whole Bayley/Sasha thing is to set them up to win the women's tag titles. They don't have a lot, but there is some potential tag teams to be made across both brands.

Already established:

• Absolution
• The IIconics
• The Riott Squad

Can be used for the women's tag division:

• Alexa Bliss and Mickie James
• Bayley and Sasha Banks
• Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair
• Lana and Naomi
• Natalya and Ronda Rousey
• The Bella Twins

If/when they do introduce women's tag titles, Bayley/Sasha vs Becky/Charlotte HAS to be the inaugural tag match to crown the champions.

Spens1 · Post #89 » by **Spens1** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 10:36 pm

I absolutely hope not, if the payoff to this feud is another sheamus-cesaro thing (which was a horrid payoff as is, as good as the team would end up being) then idk.

tugs · Post #90 » by **tugs** » Thu Jul 5, 2018 1:46 am

Not sure if I'm gonna high five the kid or turn him in for sexual assault

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improper · Post #91 » by **improper** » Thu Jul 5, 2018 7:51 am

Spens1 wrote:I absolutely hope not, if the payoff to this feud is another sheamus-cesaro thing (which was a horrid payoff as is, as good as the team would end up being) then idk.

Yeah, considering how awful the build up to The Bar was, that team ended up being awesome. Revitalized both of those guys.

iMoreland · Post #92 » by **iMoreland** » Thu Jul 5, 2018 10:19 pm

Spoiler:

iMoreland · Post #93 » by **iMoreland** » Fri Jul 6, 2018 8:51 pm

Phoenix PD released the full investigation report, and basically said Enzo was never contacted prior to the accuser making her allegations public on social media.

Enzo was fired by WWE because he never told them, but he never knew about the investigation in the first place.

That is so f***ed.

Post #94 » by **Stanford** » Fri Jul 6, 2018 9:10 pm

iMoreland wrote:Phoenix PD released the full investigation report, and basically said Enzo was never contacted prior to the accuser making her allegations public on social media.

Enzo was fired by WWE because he never told them, but he never knew about the investigation in the first place.

That is so f***ed.

If he wasn't so toxic before the firing (reportedly), this would seem like a typical "fire and rehire when the heat goes away" situation. I think we're way past that point though.

improper · Post #95 » by **improper** » Fri Jul 6, 2018 11:27 pm

iMoreland wrote:Phoenix PD released the full investigation report, and basically said Enzo was never contacted prior to the accuser making her allegations public on social media.

Enzo was fired by WWE because he never told them, but he never knew about the investigation in the first place.

That is so f***ed.

If he hadn't been fired for that, he would have been fired for something else. That was a last straw situation for WWE, and Enzo was a d-bag who certainly would have pulled that last straw at some point.

Sucks for him, I guess, but the 205 Live product is about a billion times better without his bum ass out there every week, so can't say I'm sorry he's gone.

LLJ · Post #96 » by **LLJ** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 10:06 pm

Enzo is SO not worth the effort. Good for him that he's innocent, but hearing him on Stone Cold's podcast, the guy is a certifiable nutjob either way.

improper · Post #97 » by **improper** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 10:23 pm

LLJ wrote:Enzo is SO not worth the effort. Good for him that he's innocent, but hearing him on Stone Cold's podcast, the guy is a certifiable nutjob either way.

Like I said, if he didn't get fired for that, he would have gotten fired the next time he did something stupid, which probably wouldn't have taken long. Sounds like basically everyone hated him and the accusation was a convenient excuse to part ways with him guilt-free.

iMoreland · Post #98 » by **iMoreland** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 4:54 am

Vince, let Brock talk

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tugs · Post #99 » by **tugs** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 7:47 am

I don't think I've despised any heel as sincerely as Sami Callihan right now. Can't remember anyone as convincing as he is. Last one might be the vicious, Evolution Triple H but even that character was not this ruthless.

Props to him.

improper · Post #100 » by **improper** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 7:59 am

tugs wrote:I don't think I've despised any heel as sincerely as Sami Callihan right now. Can't remember anyone as convincing as he is. Last one might be the vicious, Evolution Triple H but even that character was not this ruthless.

Props to him.

Don't think this is the right thread for that comment. :lol: