WWE Raw Discussion III

Dominator83 · Post #861 » by **Dominator83** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:26 am

Scott Hall wrote:Ahhh King Corbin...

The guy who retired Kurt Angle at WM.... the guy who co-main evented the July PPV and the guy who needed this
KOTR the absolute least wins it.

The only potential positive out of this is Gable has been elevated but lets see how long it actually lasts for. Wouldn't
surprise me if he was back in catering soon.

Well if its any consolidation, I buy into Corbin as a pushed single more than I do Gable (though that doesn't say much lol). Gable is best served as a tag team guy

Dominator83 · Post #862 » by **Dominator83** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:28 am

Rusev looks more badass than ever

Scott Hall · Post #863 » by **Scott Hall** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:39 am

Dominater wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:Ahhh King Corbin...

The guy who retired Kurt Angle at WM.... the guy who co-main evented the July PPV and the guy who needed this
KOTR the absolute least wins it.

The only potential positive out of this is Gable has been elevated but lets see how long it actually lasts for. Wouldn't
surprise me if he was back in catering soon.

Well if its any consolidation, I buy into Corbin as a pushed single more than I do Gable (though that doesn't say much lol). Gable is best served as a tag team guy

This is like giving Brock the MITB Briefcase so many guys could've benefited from it and instead they give it to the
guy who needs it least. I agree about Gable I still can't take him serious with this haircut.

As for Rusev the best they could come up with him after 4 months is a stupid angle with arguably the biggest joke
on the roster? I can't get behind Rusev because it's clear Vince never will.

Post #864 » by **Stanford** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:43 am

Dominater wrote:Rusev looks more badass than ever

Scary when dudes that size get ripped. One complaint you could make about previous iterations of Rusev was, at times, the extra weight. I think he's way more realistic as a contender now.

tugs · Post #865 » by **tugs** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:08 am

Couple of notes:

Rusev - not sure where this Maria-Mike story is headed but I'm excited that he's back. He looks to be in the best shape of his life but considering most titles are with heels, and Seth is in a program with Bray, not sure who he'll feud against.

Corbin - I'm ok with this choice as long as Gable still gets pushed (which is very unlikely). One thing I noticed why I can't get behind Baron is he looks like someone who just randomly passed by. Get this guy a new gear for crying out loud. A cocky ass heel with a corporate attire doesn't make sense to me.

Main event - Curious how they'll close but was expecting a Fiend appearance. Surprised with The OCs inclusion in the end and got excited when they stood with Dolph and Robert. Was expecting AJ to throw the Top Sweet gesture. Kane making the save made sense I guess since he's in his town but storyline wise it doesn't really fit. It was just him "doing the right thing".

Then the lights... Man oh man are they really getting behind this character. We didn't get a Taker or Austin ambush from Bray but Kane is still a legendary name to get you over. I remember when the Wyatt Family debuted and attacked Kane. Everything came full circle.

Pharaoh · Post #866 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:34 am

Scott Hall wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:Having Jericho face and put over Fandango legitimized him to a lot of fans and made him feel important

I do not agree. Fandango was a meme and that's it. No one cared about the outcome of any of his matches.

I don't have a lot of first hand knowledge about anything in wrestling, but this I do.

No you're definitely wrong Fandango was over for a good 3 or 4 months before Vince killed him off

Fandango got injured at the worst possible time...was due to win the IC title.

By the time he came back everything had moved on. He missed his moment.

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Wo1verine · Post #867 » by **Wo1verine** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:32 pm

Rusev probably on PEDs that aren't tested for in the WWE.

Scott Hall · Post #868 » by **Scott Hall** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:08 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
Stanford wrote:
I do not agree. Fandango was a meme and that's it. No one cared about the outcome of any of his matches.

I don't have a lot of first hand knowledge about anything in wrestling, but this I do.

No you're definitely wrong Fandango was over for a good 3 or 4 months before Vince killed him off
Fandango got injured at the worst possible time...was due to win the IC title.

By the time he came back everything had moved on. He missed his moment.

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Looked up Fandango on Wikipedia...

So the WWE actually aired vignettes for his new character for 4 months before he debuted. Then he beats a future
HOFer in Jericho at WM. His song becomes an instant hit in the UK and he becomes one of the most over acts in
the company in which the WWE coins the term "Fandangoing" when people dance to his song.

He suffered a concussion in June missed Payback but returned on July 1st and was in the MITB match. He then
was on a losing streak broke his nose on September 2nd but didn't miss any time. Then he was doing dance contests
with guys like the Miz and R-Truth and Khali. Him and Summer Rae had a feud with Natalya and Khali at Hell in a Cell.

In December he beat Ziggler for a present on a pole match to get an IC tittle shot against Big E which he ended up losing.

From there it was jobberville... by March him and Summer Rae were losing to Santino and Emma multiple times.
Fandango then was in the Andre the Giant battle royal preshow at WM and then after got rid of Summer Rae for Layala and
was jobbing to guys like Adam Rose in July. Then he went from Layla to Rosa Mendes and it made no difference.

So the WWE went from hyping up his debut for 4 months.... have him beat Jericho at WM give him an elaborate entrance
acknowledge how over he is with "Fandangoing" and nuke him after a few months because he had a concussion and broke
his nose in which he never missed any real time for?

This reeks of Vince McMahon...

Reminds me of Rusev and Shinske they were over with fans but if Vince personally doesn't like you or your character
you have no chance unless the fans revolt like with Daniel Bryan.

iMoreland · Post #869 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:42 pm

AJ vs Mysterio vs Nakamura vs Ricochet vs Roode tonight, winner faces Seth next Monday for the title. I wanna see Seth (c) vs Rey or Seth (c) vs Ricochet.

tugs · Post #870 » by **tugs** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:09 am

Wow they are really strapping Bray with a rocket! Mandible Claw on Braun!

iMoreland · Post #871 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:14 am

Can't wait for Cena to come back next week and beat Rey for the title after Rey beats Seth

tugs · Post #872 » by **tugs** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:17 am

AND CULT OF PERSONALITY PLAYS!!!

But on a serious note, if the plan is just to draw audience for a title match, it doesn't make sense if you've already advertised the match for HIAC. Unless...

Rey wins and faces Bray in a competitive, losing effort. Bray is champ while WWE golden boy saves face.

The_Brecht · Post #873 » by **The_Brecht** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:57 am

Rey is next to hang on the wall in the funhouse.

In other news, we saw Rusev and EC3 in a match/squash on tv!

iMoreland · Post #874 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:32 am

The Fiend is so sick, they need to let more guys have freedom with their characters

The_Brecht · Post #875 » by **The_Brecht** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:09 am

After Raw went off the air, Rollins delivered a superkick and curbstomp to the Fiend, but het popped right up after it.
Then followed by another three curbstomps. Then the lights went out and the Fiend was gone.

Don't you dare do that on live tv wwe (except maybe the first thing)!

LLJ · Post #876 » by **LLJ** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:06 pm

What will people say when Seth beats Bray clean at HIAC? So far this is the classic "overcome the odds" WWE story from what I see. People really think Seth getting "buried" every week and looking like a pansy is going to lead to him getting destroyed at HIAC?

Flames24Rulz · Post #877 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:54 pm

LLJ wrote:What will people say when Seth beats Bray clean at HIAC? So far this is the classic "overcome the odds" WWE story from what I see. People really think Seth getting "buried" every week and looking like a pansy is going to lead to him getting destroyed at HIAC?

I saw speculation of Kane (ugh) getting involved and costing Bray the title. I really hope they don't overthink this -- give the title to Bray and continue running with this. His segments have seriously been the most enjoyable thing in WWE in years.

WRau1 · Post #878 » by **WRau1** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:47 pm

Bray is absolutely coming out of HIAC looking stronger than Seth. Don't know if that will be with the title but I'd put the odds of it at 60-40.

iMoreland · Post #879 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:19 pm

"I'm losing control of it." Sick line.

Read on Twitter

Post #880 » by **Marcus** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:04 pm

iMoreland wrote:"I'm losing control of it." Sick line.

Read on Twitter

Dude has been the best at this character since he debuted with it originally. He's the only "character" that pulls off social media this well. The other SM standouts aren't really doing "characters" so much as just showing a side of themselves we don't get on tv most of the time. Bray is killing it in kayfabe. He does insane work.