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Post#941 » by improper » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:26 pm

The fact that Sasha has been a face for basically her entire main roster career is borderline sabotage.
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#943 » by LLJ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:27 pm

Road Dogg got a lot of flak, but he was apparently pretty well liked backstage by a lot of the performers (same with Arn Anderson, who was also fired recently).

It's hard to work with a boss who changes plans every 10 minutes. I'd heard that their tossing the SD title onto Charlotte so close to Mania (and unceremoniously dropping Asuka into the battle royal) and then 2 weeks later having Charlotte dropping it to Becky threw everyone in the company a loop.

All the firings and cuts won't do much as Vince gets more and more out of touch and chaotic.
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

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Post#945 » by spykelee » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:42 am

That's too bad. My guy from Thunder Bay. Saw him wrestle and chatted with him numerous times throughout my schooling. Real nice and down to earth and really a hard working guy. He certainly wasn't handed any of his opportunities In pro wrestling.

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Post#946 » by Spens1 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:38 pm

He's not even that old so for him to get Alzheimers is insane. Goes to show, you really never know.
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Post#947 » by Spens1 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:49 pm

Also this RD Evans (Archibald Peck for those who knew his work on the indies) story is getting more interesting.

Basically, Vince flipped his lid because Bret mentioned Vince by name in the HOF ceremony and Evans was the fallboy because he was the scriptwriter (why Bret needs a scriptwriter, idk). RD Evans then quits on the spot.



One of the more fascinating backstage situations at least. I mean i get Vince not wanting to have his name constantly mentioned, but with the Hart Foundation and Bret, his career is so intertwined with Vince's, how does he not mention Vince (it would be like if Austin didn't mention Vince).
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#948 » by Stanford » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:53 pm

****, I remember that dude from Chikara
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#949 » by improper » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:13 pm

Shame to hear that about Vampiro. Enjoyed him back in the day and he was great doing commentary on Lucha Underground. That match he had with Pentagon was awesome.
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Post#950 » by Spens1 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:30 pm

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Bayley is also not happy but not downright ready to quit as Sasha is. It sounds like Sasha could be out the door, which is a damning thing that one of their 4 horsewoman is so unhappy.

In saying that, its better she leave than become a Ziggler, go out and make a name elsewhere, especially in a market where she really could be an ace of another company's womans division. Bayley also if she does decide to leave can absolute move merch (and its proven since she was the biggest seller of merch amongst the womans side for a fair while after she got called up).

I'd compare them a lot to Dean Ambrose where they're both liked but only to an extent (even though they're all towards the top end of their respective divisions talent wise).
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#951 » by tugs » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:59 am

So a highschool kid in Florida attempted to RKO his principal.

Stupid idiot.
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Post#952 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:57 am

Part of me believes this Banks stuff is a work but I can also see a scenario where she sees the success of her good friend Lynch who basically got to the top by not giving a f*ck. Whether it's in wwe or AEW, I'm quite confident the best is yet to come for her. Her heel run in nxt and series of classic matches were amazing.
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Post#953 » by heatwillbeback » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:47 pm

There are legitimate reasons to be unhappy, but dropping the titles shouldn't be one of them IMO.

Im actually happy a real tag team have the titles. I think it's good for the belts. Her and Bayley were initial champions to get the titles some legitimacy, but they are better in singles and the belts are better off elsewhere.
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Post#954 » by Stanford » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:48 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:There are legitimate reasons to be unhappy, but dropping the titles shouldn't be one of them IMO.


Agreed, especially at Mania.
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Post#955 » by improper » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:33 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:There are legitimate reasons to be unhappy, but dropping the titles shouldn't be one of them IMO.

Im actually happy a real tag team have the titles. I think it's good for the belts. Her and Bayley were initial champions to get the titles some legitimacy, but they are better in singles and the belts are better off elsewhere.


Normally I would agree that a title loss isn't a big deal, but they just won the titles, and were the first team to ever hold them. A dominant run with them would have helped establish the belts as legitimate. Instead, WWE put the belts on a bad comedy team featuring a couple of jobbers who have done absolutely nothing on the main roster. It instantly established that WWE doesn't remotely care about the legitimacy of those belts.

Bayley and Sasha at least have some real credibility. They're both former NXT and main roster women's champs. They are two of the women who helped re-write the narrative on what women could accomplish in WWE. It's due to their amazing matches in NXT that we're seeing women main event WWE PPVs today. They should have held the belts and defeated all comers until finally dropping them to another great team, like maybe Shirai and Sane?
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#956 » by Stanford » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:44 pm

The IIconics rock

At least they can cut a **** promo
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Post#957 » by improper » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:03 pm

Stanford wrote:The IIconics rock

At least they can cut a **** promo


I find them to be abrasive and annoying, and while Peyton is okay in the ring Billie is just a waste of space.
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Post#958 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:37 pm

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Stanford wrote:The IIconics rock

At least they can cut a **** promo


I find them to be abrasive and annoying, and while Peyton is okay in the ring Billie is just a waste of space.


They're both pretty awful wrestlers but at least they're decent to look at and generate some heat even if it's Xpac heat. You can tell both are not natural athletes even in just the way they move. Both were trained before joining nxt yet you compare them to someone like Ronda who has little training but is a natural athlete and there's no comparison. Ronda is green but believable even without her mma background just because she moves so quick and fluid. When the iconics bump it looks like month one training camp bumps. Peyton and Charlotte have pretty similar body types but Charlotte is an athlete. I feel like both of them would've been passable in the Divas era but it's hard to watch them now with real wrestlers. Stick out like sore thumbs.
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Post#959 » by improper » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:45 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:They're both pretty awful wrestlers but at least they're decent to look at and generate some heat even if it's Xpac heat. You can tell both are not natural athletes even in just the way they move. Both were trained before joining nxt yet you compare them to someone like Ronda who has little training but is a natural athlete and there's no comparison. Ronda is green but believable even without her mma background just because she moves so quick and fluid. When the iconics bump it looks like month one training camp bumps. Peyton and Charlotte have pretty similar body types but Charlotte is an athlete. I feel like both of them would've been passable in the Divas era but it's hard to watch them now with real wrestlers. Stick out like sore thumbs.


But to me, X-Pac heat is not productive. If we boo someone because they are awful and we just want them off our screen, that's not a good thing. It's the same with Nia and Corbin. I just want to change the channel when they are out there. I have no interest in watching the IIconics wrestle or talk. Peyton's not bad to look at, but that's true of most of WWE's women, and a good chunk of them are way better in the ring and far less grating on the mic.
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Re: WWE General Discussion II 

Post#960 » by Stanford » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:39 am

The IIconics are great improvisors, have a strong understanding of their characters and are very likeable despite being annoying heels. There's a lot of value in that combination of traits. Should they be champions? I don't know. But they're good and deserve a shot.

X-Pac Heat is easily the dumbest phrase wrestling fans use on a regular basis. Except maybe workrate, which is equally dumb.

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