WWE Raw Discussion III

tugs · Post #941 » by **tugs** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:13 am

Apparently, the Crown Jewel match vs Team Hogan and Team Flair will be used as a platform to push Drew. Hope this is true.

Not sure how though. Maybe The Fiend will destroy Seth and just transfer to SD then Seth will move on to a Drew feud.

The_Brecht · Post #942 » by **The_Brecht** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:29 am

Drew could be an amazing face champion imo.
That is if they let him wrestle like in his time in NXT, meaning high intensity and high speed.

daoneandonly · Post #943 » by **daoneandonly** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:31 am

The_Brecht wrote:Drew could be an amazing face champion imo.
That is if they let him wrestle like in his time in NXT, meaning high intensity and high speed.

He was a great face in Impact, I'd argue he's a more natural face than heel

What happened with the RAW main event? Wasn't it supposed to be a 6 man tag with the surprise partner? How did it turn into a surprise who's in my corner?

Dr Positivity · Post #944 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:09 pm

daoneandonly wrote:What happened with the RAW main event? Wasn't it supposed to be a 6 man tag with the surprise partner? How did it turn into a surprise who's in my corner?

Street Profits couldn't find a partner so I guess OC decided to just make it a 2 on 2 match. Then Owens interfered at the end to set up AJ feud

Dr Positivity · Post #945 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:22 pm

tugs wrote:Apparently, the Crown Jewel match vs Team Hogan and Team Flair will be used as a platform to push Drew. Hope this is true.

Not sure how though. Maybe The Fiend will destroy Seth and just transfer to SD then Seth will move on to a Drew feud.

Isn't it pretty straight forward? Seth beats The Fiend and then his TLC feud is with Drew

tugs · Post #946 » by **tugs** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:04 am

Logic isn't welcome with WWE creative.

In other news, holy ish Ricochet sold that RKO more than Rock sold all of Austin's Stunners!

Post #947 » by **Stanford** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:43 am

The Lana-Rusev stuff seems confused. Lana claims that Rusev is a sex addict. All he wants from her is sex. Then she says all he wants is to have a child with her. These are two vastly different motivations. Is he supposed to be Tiger Woods or Mormon? I'm very confused.

Hilarious segments though, in the sense that it was bad an involved Rusev.

Post #948 » by **loserX** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:01 pm

Stanford wrote:The Lana-Rusev stuff seems confused. Lana claims that Rusev is a sex addict. All he wants from her is sex. Then she says all he wants is to have a child with her. These are two vastly different motivations. Is he supposed to be Tiger Woods or Mormon? I'm very confused.

Hilarious segments though, in the sense that it was bad an involved Rusev.

They were painful, and even so Rusev is money. His astonished "...WHAT?" when accused of cheating was great.

But the angle is awful, and the one thing that leaps out at me about it and about Raw in general is that Lawler is talking way, way, way, way too much.

Scott Hall · Post #949 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:06 am

Saw Becky Lynch was the opening segment/match and decided to watch the NBA for the evening and
watch the repeat of RAW after.

Why are the AOP and Aleistar Black STILL doing back stage vignettes?
Why are the Viking Raiders STILL facing jobbers?

The_Brecht · Post #950 » by **The_Brecht** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:08 am

Banter era.

Dr Positivity · Post #951 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:49 pm

If Lesnar retains against Cain, I wouldn't be shocked if Rollins loses the title on one of the next few Raws. Do Rollins and Lesnar need to main event Wrestlemania, Summerslam and Survivor Series?

Stanford wrote:The Lana-Rusev stuff seems confused. Lana claims that Rusev is a sex addict. All he wants from her is sex. Then she says all he wants is to have a child with her. These are two vastly different motivations. Is he supposed to be Tiger Woods or Mormon? I'm very confused.

Hilarious segments though, in the sense that it was bad an involved Rusev.

I guess in WWE, you can be addicted to trying to make babies

tugs · Post #952 » by **tugs** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 5:47 am

Wow that was a lazy episode

Scott Hall · Post #953 » by **Scott Hall** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 7:03 am

tugs wrote:Wow that was a lazy episode

Last few weeks I'm not a fan of long matches on RAW and the surprising thing is they were good matches.
Like a pointless Charlotte and Nattie vs. Kabuki Warrior match that doesn't really do anything for storylines
and is just long filler for the first hour doesn't do anything for me.

I prefer the long drawn out matches are saved for the PPVs to make them feel special. I want my weekly TV
episodes to be fast paced both matches and segments and get as much of the roster used as possible. Then
for the PPV's the hottest feuds or well received feuds make it to the PPV make it the opposite of Wrestlemania
where Vince likes to get everybody on the show.

Post #954 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 12:20 pm

Scott Hall wrote:
tugs wrote:Wow that was a lazy episode

Last few weeks I'm not a fan of long matches on RAW and the surprising thing is they were good matches.
Like a pointless Charlotte and Nattie vs. Kabuki Warrior match that doesn't really do anything for storylines
and is just long filler for the first hour doesn't do anything for me.

That match made no sense. Why have Charlotte team with Nattie and go against a heel team - and for Nattie to get the win... tapping out Asuka - very disappointing. I think that contributed to the crowd being flat. And Buddy Murphy vs Alexander could have been a great match, but they had zero buildup and just a few minutes for it. There was actually some good compelling action during the show, but the crowd was not feeling it.

Scott Hall · Post #955 » by **Scott Hall** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 6:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
tugs wrote:Wow that was a lazy episode

Last few weeks I'm not a fan of long matches on RAW and the surprising thing is they were good matches.
Like a pointless Charlotte and Nattie vs. Kabuki Warrior match that doesn't really do anything for storylines
and is just long filler for the first hour doesn't do anything for me.

That match made no sense. Why have Charlotte team with Nattie and go against a heel team - and for Nattie to get the win... tapping out Asuka - very disappointing. I think that contributed to the crowd being flat. And Buddy Murphy vs Alexander could have been a great match, but they had zero buildup and just a few minutes for it. There was actually some good compelling action during the show, but the crowd was not feeling it.

We've seen so much good wrestling now we're almost conditioned to it nothing really feels special when you see it
unless it's NXT Takeover where guys kick out of 50 finishers do a thousand high spots and gotta do crazy stuff same
with the AEW and NJPW guys.

Why is it so hard for them to put a little effort into things? if you just trot out a pointless Charlotte and Nattie
vs. Kabuki Warrior match and a Buddy Murphy vs. Cedric Alexander match you're going through the motions and
telling your audience you don't care and then the audience doesn't care.

Post #956 » by **loserX** » Tue Nov 5, 2019 6:55 pm

This echoes my feelings about the product in general lately. The actual *wrestling* has really been quite good. We've seen some talented guys and ladies do some great work lately, both new faces and old.

But the booking hasn't been bad so much as it has been almost absent. They do this big WWE draft and yet can't seem to make heads or tails of which shows their biggest feuds are actually on. Bray and Seth are on different shows, and so were Rey and Brock until that absurd nonsense yesterday. Everything seems to be done haphazardly and last-minute, with no forethought nor afterthought.

The_Brecht · Post #957 » by **The_Brecht** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Rollins should take some time off.
He's getting worse week by week.

improper · Post #958 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:02 pm

The_Brecht wrote:Rollins should take some time off.
He's getting worse week by week.

He just always sounds so whiny and entitled when he talks, both in character and out. He needs to be a heel because he is just awful as a face and the crowd is turning on him as a result.

LLJ · Post #959 » by **LLJ** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:41 pm

The WWE is a mess. There is no plan. PPVs are cobbled together last minute. The shows nowadays are just big fat vehicles for advertising now.

Flames24Rulz · Post #960 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:01 pm

LLJ wrote:The WWE is a mess. There is no plan. PPVs are cobbled together last minute. The shows nowadays are just big fat vehicles for advertising now.

The best episode on RAW or SD over the last year was a couple of Friday's ago, when they had to have NXT save the show since everybody else was stuck in Saudi Arabia. Maybe the best plan is to just have no plan? Because unfortunately, I think they do have a plan as to how they run their shows -- and when they plan it out, it sucks.

RAW last night was a complete dumpster fire, as are most of the shows that are in England. I also don't really get the bright idea of going to Saudi Arabia, rushing back to head to the states, only to go back and begin a European tour literally a few days after that.

I'm also 100% convinced that the Rusev/Lana angle is Vince/Heyman's idea of saying, "See?! This is the Attitude era!!!" even though the whole angle has been terrible from jump. Good on everyone in England ****ing all over that segment too.